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The worst thing that can happen to the right is that they are America First instead of Israel First? Or that they think the country will be better off as mostly white and Christian?

I think you're a fed (or really dumb or really evil) if you don't believe those things.

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You are insanely dumb if you believe the right going hardcore and openly racist and antisemitic and throwing away any and all tact is the blueprint for success. INSANELY DUMB.

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Nobody is doing that. Not in the way you mean those words when you say them.

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I listen to the guy, you should check him out.

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I am becoming more and more convinced that Fuentes is a legit fed or agent of some sort. I can think of nothing more damaging to the right than to create guys like this, and have them rise to prominence. The absolute worst thing that can happen to the right is for a significant % to give legitimacy to his voice. I say this as someone who has a lot of "insensitive", anti-PC views, and doesn't disagree with everything he says.

He has to know the harm he is doing and he relishes in it right? The other possibility is that he is just a p*ssed off incel who knows he will never land a woman and just wants to watch the world burn maybe.

But the only part of the Dave Smith interview where I sensed any type of discomfort, was when he brought up the question of him being a fed.

But seriously, if I wanted to set the right back significantly, and maximize division within its ranks, I would let a couple of Nick Fuentes's loose and prop em up.

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If by "the right", you mean the GOP Republicans, then yeah, Fuentes is terrible for them. Does not make him a fed, though. Fuentes was blackballed and cancelled by both the left and the GOP right from the moment he turned 18 and stated he was not interested in taking a trip to Israel when he was being courted by the Daily Wire. He is one of maybe like 3 people I can think of who were just absolutely cancelled off of everything. This would not have happened if he was a fed "being promoted to hurt the right".

The only reason he is getting mainstream now is because Elon is allowing free speech on twitter. And basically everyone under 35 is fed up with Israel so Fuentes' message about them is resonating.

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The worst thing that can happen to the right is that they are America First instead of Israel First? Or that they think the country will be better off as mostly white and Christian?

I think you're a fed (or really dumb or really evil) if you don't believe those things.

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You are insanely dumb if you believe the right going hardcore and openly racist and antisemitic and throwing away any and all tact is the blueprint for success. INSANELY DUMB.

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Nobody is doing that. Not in the way you mean those words when you say them.

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I listen to the guy, you should check him out.

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So you listen to his show every night to see what the feds are trying to get the youth to believe?

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The worst thing that can happen to the right is that they are America First instead of Israel First? Or that they think the country will be better off as mostly white and Christian?

I think you're a fed (or really dumb or really evil) if you don't believe those things.

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You are insanely dumb if you believe the right going hardcore and openly racist and antisemitic and throwing away any and all tact is the blueprint for success. INSANELY DUMB.

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Nobody is doing that. Not in the way you mean those words when you say them.

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I listen to the guy, you should check him out.

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Yep. Two seconds of googling gets you more than enough to know Fuentes is a racist piece of *****

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"I wish Hitler would kill him"

Fuentes complained on a July, 2023 stream clipped by Media Matters about supposedly seeing a Black man litter in his neighborhood, saying that if Hitler were alive, he would have teamed up with him to kill the man.

"It's always Black people. ... This is in my neighborhood," Fuentes said. "I'm supposed to be mad at Hitler? I'm supposed to be cross with Hitler? I want this guy dead. And I wish Hitler would kill him. I wish Hitler would have killed him, you know? ... That guy should be KILLED! That guy should be killed for that. That guy should be dragged from his car and beaten to death by the public. ... If I was in a room with Hitler and that guy, me and Hitler would team up and **** that guy up! We would kill that guy! ... And we'd high-five at the end."

Using the n-word

Fuentes used the n-word in a January, 2022 episode of America First while using the r-word to criticize Steve Bannon for trying to recruit more Black voters for the GOP, documented by the Southern Poverty Law Center.

"[Steve] Bannon is the fat r*tard that goes on these shows and says, 'We're going to have African Americans voting 50 percent for Republicans, and we're going to flood the zone with [racial slur] votes," Fuentes said. "That's, like, literally he goes on these shows and says that. That one slipped out."

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El Gallo Blanco said:

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I am becoming more and more convinced that Fuentes is a legit fed or agent of some sort. I can think of nothing more damaging to the right than to create guys like this, and have them rise to prominence. The absolute worst thing that can happen to the right is for a significant % to give legitimacy to his voice. I say this as someone who has a lot of "insensitive", anti-PC views, and doesn't disagree with everything he says.

He has to know the harm he is doing and he relishes in it right? The other possibility is that he is just a p*ssed off incel who knows he will never land a woman and just wants to watch the world burn maybe.

But the only part of the Dave Smith interview where I sensed any type of discomfort, was when he brought up the question of him being a fed.

But seriously, if I wanted to set the right back significantly, and maximize division within its ranks, I would let a couple of Nick Fuentes's loose and prop em up.

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If by "the right", you mean the GOP Republicans, then yeah, Fuentes is terrible for them. Does not make him a fed, though. Fuentes was blackballed and cancelled by both the left and the GOP right from the moment he turned 18 and stated he was not interested in taking a trip to Israel when he was being courted by the Daily Wire. He is one of maybe like 3 people I can think of who were just absolutely cancelled off of everything. This would not have happened if he was a fed "being promoted to hurt the right".

The only reason he is getting mainstream now is because Elon is allowing free speech on twitter. And basically everyone under 35 is fed up with Israel so Fuentes message about them is resonating.

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Another stupid trend. I am not "pro-israel", in fact, I despise all white liberals, so by default, I despise the majority of American Jews...but this trend of being "pro-palestine" or viewing the Israeli response to October 7 as "genocide" is absolutely effing ******ed.

I cannot take a single person seriously who despises Israel or "the jews" more than these backwards islamic death cultists. You don't have to like Jews/Israel, but people who paint Jews in a worse light than these pedo worshiping death cultists? Sorry, can't take em seriously. They are tarded.

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El Gallo Blanco said:

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I am becoming more and more convinced that Fuentes is a legit fed or agent of some sort. I can think of nothing more damaging to the right than to create guys like this, and have them rise to prominence. The absolute worst thing that can happen to the right is for a significant % to give legitimacy to his voice. I say this as someone who has a lot of "insensitive", anti-PC views, and doesn't disagree with everything he says.

He has to know the harm he is doing and he relishes in it right? The other possibility is that he is just a p*ssed off incel who knows he will never land a woman and just wants to watch the world burn maybe.

But the only part of the Dave Smith interview where I sensed any type of discomfort, was when he brought up the question of him being a fed.

But seriously, if I wanted to set the right back significantly, and maximize division within its ranks, I would let a couple of Nick Fuentes's loose and prop em up.

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If by "the right", you mean the GOP Republicans, then yeah, Fuentes is terrible for them. Does not make him a fed, though. Fuentes was blackballed and cancelled by both the left and the GOP right from the moment he turned 18 and stated he was not interested in taking a trip to Israel when he was being courted by the Daily Wire. He is one of maybe like 3 people I can think of who were just absolutely cancelled off of everything. This would not have happened if he was a fed "being promoted to hurt the right".

The only reason he is getting mainstream now is because Elon is allowing free speech on twitter. And basically everyone under 35 is fed up with Israel so Fuentes message about them is resonating.

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Another stupid trend. I am not "pro-israel", in fact, I despise all white liberals, so by default, I despise the majority of American Jews...but this trend of being "pro-palestine" or viewing the Israeli response to October 7 as "genocide" is absolutely effing ******ed.

I cannot take a single person seriously who despises Israel or "the jews" more than thes backwards islamic death cultists. Despise both, but people who paint Jews in a worse light than these pedo worshiping death cultists? Can't take em seriously. They are tarded.

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OK well be that as it may, almost everyone under 35 is fed up with Israel lol

Keyno said:

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El Gallo Blanco said:

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Keyno said:

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El Gallo Blanco said:

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I am becoming more and more convinced that Fuentes is a legit fed or agent of some sort. I can think of nothing more damaging to the right than to create guys like this, and have them rise to prominence. The absolute worst thing that can happen to the right is for a significant % to give legitimacy to his voice. I say this as someone who has a lot of "insensitive", anti-PC views, and doesn't disagree with everything he says.

He has to know the harm he is doing and he relishes in it right? The other possibility is that he is just a p*ssed off incel who knows he will never land a woman and just wants to watch the world burn maybe.

But the only part of the Dave Smith interview where I sensed any type of discomfort, was when he brought up the question of him being a fed.

But seriously, if I wanted to set the right back significantly, and maximize division within its ranks, I would let a couple of Nick Fuentes's loose and prop em up.

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If by "the right", you mean the GOP Republicans, then yeah, Fuentes is terrible for them. Does not make him a fed, though. Fuentes was blackballed and cancelled by both the left and the GOP right from the moment he turned 18 and stated he was not interested in taking a trip to Israel when he was being courted by the Daily Wire. He is one of maybe like 3 people I can think of who were just absolutely cancelled off of everything. This would not have happened if he was a fed "being promoted to hurt the right".

The only reason he is getting mainstream now is because Elon is allowing free speech on twitter. And basically everyone under 35 is fed up with Israel so Fuentes message about them is resonating.

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Another stupid trend. I am not "pro-israel", in fact, I despise all white liberals, so by default, I despise the majority of American Jews...but this trend of being "pro-palestine" or viewing the Israeli response to October 7 as "genocide" is absolutely effing ******ed.

I cannot take a single person seriously who despises Israel or "the jews" more than thes backwards islamic death cultists. Despise both, but people who paint Jews in a worse light than these pedo worshiping death cultists? Can't take em seriously. They are tarded.

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OK well be that as it may, almost everyone under 35 is fed up with Israel lol

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Yep, our party is f**ed and may go through a multi-decade period of not winning a single election as we scare off and alienate tens of millions of would be voters. I agree.

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El Gallo Blanco said:

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I am becoming more and more convinced that Fuentes is a legit fed or agent of some sort. I can think of nothing more damaging to the right than to create guys like this, and have them rise to prominence. The absolute worst thing that can happen to the right is for a significant % to give legitimacy to his voice. I say this as someone who has a lot of "insensitive", anti-PC views, and doesn't disagree with everything he says.

He has to know the harm he is doing and he relishes in it right? The other possibility is that he is just a p*ssed off incel who knows he will never land a woman and just wants to watch the world burn maybe.

But the only part of the Dave Smith interview where I sensed any type of discomfort, was when he brought up the question of him being a fed.

But seriously, if I wanted to set the right back significantly, and maximize division within its ranks, I would let a couple of Nick Fuentes's loose and prop em up.

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If by "the right", you mean the GOP Republicans, then yeah, Fuentes is terrible for them. Does not make him a fed, though. Fuentes was blackballed and cancelled by both the left and the GOP right from the moment he turned 18 and stated he was not interested in taking a trip to Israel when he was being courted by the Daily Wire. He is one of maybe like 3 people I can think of who were just absolutely cancelled off of everything. This would not have happened if he was a fed "being promoted to hurt the right".

The only reason he is getting mainstream now is because Elon is allowing free speech on twitter. And basically everyone under 35 is fed up with Israel so Fuentes message about them is resonating.

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Another stupid trend. I am not "pro-israel", in fact, I despise all white liberals, so by default, I despise the majority of American Jews...but this trend of being "pro-palestine" or viewing the Israeli response to October 7 as "genocide" is absolutely effing ******ed.

I cannot take a single person seriously who despises Israel or "the jews" more than thes backwards islamic death cultists. Despise both, but people who paint Jews in a worse light than these pedo worshiping death cultists? Can't take em seriously. They are tarded.

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Islamic death cults don't wield insanely outsized power in our country. Not yet, but we are getting there with the legal immigration consensus and with illegal immigration that the Republicans say they are against but mostly allow.

If you actually listened to AF or to the interview with Tucker, he says clearly that he doesn't hate Jewish people for being Jewish. Says it quite often.

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El Gallo Blanco said:

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I am becoming more and more convinced that Fuentes is a legit fed or agent of some sort. I can think of nothing more damaging to the right than to create guys like this, and have them rise to prominence. The absolute worst thing that can happen to the right is for a significant % to give legitimacy to his voice. I say this as someone who has a lot of "insensitive", anti-PC views, and doesn't disagree with everything he says.

He has to know the harm he is doing and he relishes in it right? The other possibility is that he is just a p*ssed off incel who knows he will never land a woman and just wants to watch the world burn maybe.

But the only part of the Dave Smith interview where I sensed any type of discomfort, was when he brought up the question of him being a fed.

But seriously, if I wanted to set the right back significantly, and maximize division within its ranks, I would let a couple of Nick Fuentes's loose and prop em up.

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If by "the right", you mean the GOP Republicans, then yeah, Fuentes is terrible for them. Does not make him a fed, though. Fuentes was blackballed and cancelled by both the left and the GOP right from the moment he turned 18 and stated he was not interested in taking a trip to Israel when he was being courted by the Daily Wire. He is one of maybe like 3 people I can think of who were just absolutely cancelled off of everything. This would not have happened if he was a fed "being promoted to hurt the right".

The only reason he is getting mainstream now is because Elon is allowing free speech on twitter. And basically everyone under 35 is fed up with Israel so Fuentes message about them is resonating.

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Another stupid trend. I am not "pro-israel", in fact, I despise all white liberals, so by default, I despise the majority of American Jews...but this trend of being "pro-palestine" or viewing the Israeli response to October 7 as "genocide" is absolutely effing ******ed.

I cannot take a single person seriously who despises Israel or "the jews" more than thes backwards islamic death cultists. Despise both, but people who paint Jews in a worse light than these pedo worshiping death cultists? Can't take em seriously. They are tarded.

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OK well be that as it may, almost everyone under 35 is fed up with Israel lol

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Yep, our party is f**ed and may go through a multi-decade period of not winning a single election as we scare off and alienate tens of millions of would be voters. I agree.

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Not necessarily. A truly America First candidate could absolutely win elections in this current climate.

Oh wow you googled him and read a transcript of several quotes. You're fully informed on the subject now!

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El Gallo Blanco said:

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Keyno said:

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Keyno said:

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El Gallo Blanco said:

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I am becoming more and more convinced that Fuentes is a legit fed or agent of some sort. I can think of nothing more damaging to the right than to create guys like this, and have them rise to prominence. The absolute worst thing that can happen to the right is for a significant % to give legitimacy to his voice. I say this as someone who has a lot of "insensitive", anti-PC views, and doesn't disagree with everything he says.

He has to know the harm he is doing and he relishes in it right? The other possibility is that he is just a p*ssed off incel who knows he will never land a woman and just wants to watch the world burn maybe.

But the only part of the Dave Smith interview where I sensed any type of discomfort, was when he brought up the question of him being a fed.

But seriously, if I wanted to set the right back significantly, and maximize division within its ranks, I would let a couple of Nick Fuentes's loose and prop em up.

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If by "the right", you mean the GOP Republicans, then yeah, Fuentes is terrible for them. Does not make him a fed, though. Fuentes was blackballed and cancelled by both the left and the GOP right from the moment he turned 18 and stated he was not interested in taking a trip to Israel when he was being courted by the Daily Wire. He is one of maybe like 3 people I can think of who were just absolutely cancelled off of everything. This would not have happened if he was a fed "being promoted to hurt the right".

The only reason he is getting mainstream now is because Elon is allowing free speech on twitter. And basically everyone under 35 is fed up with Israel so Fuentes message about them is resonating.

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Another stupid trend. I am not "pro-israel", in fact, I despise all white liberals, so by default, I despise the majority of American Jews...but this trend of being "pro-palestine" or viewing the Israeli response to October 7 as "genocide" is absolutely effing ******ed.

I cannot take a single person seriously who despises Israel or "the jews" more than thes backwards islamic death cultists. Despise both, but people who paint Jews in a worse light than these pedo worshiping death cultists? Can't take em seriously. They are tarded.

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OK well be that as it may, almost everyone under 35 is fed up with Israel lol

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Yep, our party is f**ed and may go through a multi-decade period of not winning a single election as we scare off and alienate tens of millions of would be voters. I agree.

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Not necessarily. A truly America First candidate could absolutely win elections in this current climate.

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Not one that is any type of reflection of Nick Fuentes. We cannot win with white support alone. We don't need racists (or insensitive incel trolls who say they are racist but then say jk but then say extremely racist hings while l;aughing) rising up the ranks and becoming the face of our party.

HORRIBLE idea. Literally the only thing feeding the "fed" idea is how damaging an operation like him would be to the republican party, or conservatism.

I do not disagree with your statement at all though. I mean, it's kind of what Trump is.

There is a generational thing going on here. If you are over 40, you wouldn't get it. Gen Z does not care about racism. They grew up calling each other racial slurs on Call of Duty and reading 4chan. They grew up in a time when liberalism and George Floyd worship was being shoved down everyones throats. This is the way Gen Z talks. It's shocking to older people, I am sure, but it is what it is.

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Oh wow you googled him and read a transcript of several quotes. You're fully informed on the subject now!

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Well it seemed like people were wondering if he was a racist or not. So I figured I'd help clarify.

Nobody cares that you're upset about the damage to the Republican Party. The Republicans have been complicit in the destruction of America. They don't deserve our votes. The issue is that low-IQ people keep voting them in because they aren't Democrats.

"Not Democrats" end up working with Democrats to destroy the country. They don't have a pro-America agenda.

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There is a generational thing going on here. If you are over 40, you wouldn't get it. Gen Z does not care about racism. They grew up calling each other racial slurs on Call of Duty and reading 4chan. They grew up in a time when liberalism and George Floyd worship was being shoved down everyones throats. This is the way Gen Z talks. It's shocking to older people, I am sure, but it is what it is.

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Ok. That doesn't make those statements and hundreds of other things he said not racist. His followers, including some on this board, just don't care that he's a racist.

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I am becoming more and more convinced that Fuentes is a legit fed or agent of some sort. I can think of nothing more damaging to the right than to create guys like this, and have them rise to prominence. The absolute worst thing that can happen to the right is for a significant % to give legitimacy to his voice. I say this as someone who has a lot of "insensitive", anti-PC views, and doesn't disagree with everything he says.

He has to know the harm he is doing and he relishes in it right? The other possibility is that he is just a p*ssed off incel who knows he will never land a woman and just wants to watch the world burn maybe.

But the only part of the Dave Smith interview where I sensed any type of discomfort, was when he brought up the question of him being a fed.

But seriously, if I wanted to set the right back significantly, and maximize division within its ranks, I would let a couple of Nick Fuentes's loose and prop em up.

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If by "the right", you mean the GOP Republicans, then yeah, Fuentes is terrible for them. Does not make him a fed, though. Fuentes was blackballed and cancelled by both the left and the GOP right from the moment he turned 18 and stated he was not interested in taking a trip to Israel when he was being courted by the Daily Wire. He is one of maybe like 3 people I can think of who were just absolutely cancelled off of everything. This would not have happened if he was a fed "being promoted to hurt the right".

The only reason he is getting mainstream now is because Elon is allowing free speech on twitter. And basically everyone under 35 is fed up with Israel so Fuentes message about them is resonating.

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Another stupid trend. I am not "pro-israel", in fact, I despise all white liberals, so by default, I despise the majority of American Jews...but this trend of being "pro-palestine" or viewing the Israeli response to October 7 as "genocide" is absolutely effing ******ed.

I cannot take a single person seriously who despises Israel or "the jews" more than thes backwards islamic death cultists. Despise both, but people who paint Jews in a worse light than these pedo worshiping death cultists? Can't take em seriously. They are tarded.

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OK well be that as it may, almost everyone under 35 is fed up with Israel lol

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Yep, our party is f**ed and may go through a multi-decade period of not winning a single election as we scare off and alienate tens of millions of would be voters. I agree.

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Not necessarily. A truly America First candidate could absolutely win elections in this current climate.

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Not one that is any type of reflection of Nick Fuentes. We cannot win with white support alone. We don't need racists (or insensitive incel trolls who say they are racist but then say jk but then say extremely racist hings while l;aughing) rising up the ranks and becoming the face of our party.

HORRIBLE idea. Literally the only thing feeding the "fed" idea is how damaging an operation like him would be to the republican party, or conservatism.

I do not disagree with your statement at all though. I mean, it's kind of what Trump is.

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A candidate who could get all of the white vote would win every election, obviously. That's never going to happen, currently, as there are so many white liberals. But in a decade or two, when Gen Z are most of the voters, that trend will be different.

When I say America First, the big thing is not beholden to foreign or special interests. So currently, AIPAC is a huge road block to any true America First candidate gaining traction.

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Oh wow you googled him and read a transcript of several quotes. You're fully informed on the subject now!

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Well it seemed like people were wondering if he was a racist or not. So I figured I'd help clarify.

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You didn't.

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Oh wow you googled him and read a transcript of several quotes. You're fully informed on the subject now!

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Well it seemed like people were wondering if he was a racist or not. So I figured I'd help clarify.

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You didn't.

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Yes we all know you don't care that he's a racist pos.

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There is a generational thing going on here. If you are over 40, you wouldn't get it. Gen Z does not care about racism. They grew up calling each other racial slurs on Call of Duty and reading 4chan. They grew up in a time when liberalism and George Floyd worship was being shoved down everyones throats. This is the way Gen Z talks. It's shocking to older people, I am sure, but it is what it is.

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I know, I get it, and sympathize with them. I can almost guarantee me and my buddies were more racist and said more racist things in the 90's. We formed a white gang to protect ourselves from the cholos back in the day lol. Only diff being our grievances were more with local gangs and hoodlums and not the powerful elite working night and day to suppress us.

I just don't think outward racism and 4chan language is a recipe for success, as you absolutely need a solid contingent of minorities to win.

Gen Z would be much more wise to follow the Charlie Kirk path and not the Nick Fuentes one. Unless they just want to lose every election going fwd so they can b*tch and keep their "victim" status.

I said it on the Ent forum the other day and was mocked, but no one could rebut it...Gen Z males, especially white ones, are the only living democraphic group in America with legitimate racial grievances, in terms of discrimination and disenfranchisement...and the level at which they are demonized mercilessly. But there are smart and correct/virtuous ways to respond...and idiotic tantrum-y ones.

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There is a generational thing going on here. If you are over 40, you wouldn't get it. Gen Z does not care about racism. They grew up calling each other racial slurs on Call of Duty and reading 4chan. They grew up in a time when liberalism and George Floyd worship was being shoved down everyones throats. This is the way Gen Z talks. It's shocking to older people, I am sure, but it is what it is.

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Ok. That doesn't make those statements and hundreds of other things he said not racist. His followers, including some on this board, just don't care that he's a racist.

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OK, but you are making "racism" like this ultimate evil. Our country is going down the drain and being sold out by both parties, and you are worried about a guy saying mean words.

Woke Right thinks the worst thing you can be is racist (actually, just being labeled racist, not truly being racist) while they celebrate the destruction of our country.

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There is a generational thing going on here. If you are over 40, you wouldn't get it. Gen Z does not care about racism. They grew up calling each other racial slurs on Call of Duty and reading 4chan. They grew up in a time when liberalism and George Floyd worship was being shoved down everyones throats. This is the way Gen Z talks. It's shocking to older people, I am sure, but it is what it is.

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I know, I get it, and sympathize with them. I can almost guarantee me and my buddies were more racist and said more racist things in the 90's. We formed a white gang to protect ourselves from the cholos back in the day lol. Only diff being our grievances were more with local gangs and hoodlums and not the powerful elite working night and day to suppress us.

I just don't think outward racism and 4chan language is a recipe for success, as you absolutely need a solid contingent of minorities to win.

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I agree with this as well. Nick Fuentes made an effort to clean up some of that back in like 2023 I think. But he still slips up from time to time on his personal show. The people watching his show are mostly hardcore supporters, so they dont care. But it is further fodder for the left (or GOP right) to use against him.Obviously he doesn't talk like that when he's infront of a more general audience. It's the same as how you presumably talk differently when you are around close personal friends.

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Woke Right thinks the worst thing you can be is racist (actually, just being labeled racist, not truly being racist) while they celebrate the destruction of our country.

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I don't know a single person who thinks this. Thinking mainstream racism and hatred is damaging to your political party or causes though, I can see.

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There is a generational thing going on here. If you are over 40, you wouldn't get it. Gen Z does not care about racism. They grew up calling each other racial slurs on Call of Duty and reading 4chan. They grew up in a time when liberalism and George Floyd worship was being shoved down everyones throats. This is the way Gen Z talks. It's shocking to older people, I am sure, but it is what it is.

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I just don't think outward racism and 4chan language is a recipe for success, as you absolutely need a solid contingent of minorities to win.

Gen Z would be much more wise to follow the Charlie Kirk path and not the Nick Fuentes one. Unless they just want to lose every election going fwd so they can b*tch and keep playing victim.

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Again telling on yourself. If you watched the show you would see all the superchats from women and minorities. He probably has a better percentage of minority support among young people than Rs get votes as a percentage of the minority population.

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Gen Z would be much more wise to follow the Charlie Kirk path and not the Nick Fuentes one. Unless they just want to lose every election going fwd so they can b*tch and keep playing victim.

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If you are strictly talking about winning elections while ceding every moral principle, then yes.

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There is a generational thing going on here. If you are over 40, you wouldn't get it. Gen Z does not care about racism. They grew up calling each other racial slurs on Call of Duty and reading 4chan. They grew up in a time when liberalism and George Floyd worship was being shoved down everyones throats. This is the way Gen Z talks. It's shocking to older people, I am sure, but it is what it is.

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I know, I get it, and sympathize with them. I can almost guarantee me and my buddies were more racist and said more racist things in the 90's. We formed a white gang to protect ourselves from the cholos back in the day lol. Only diff being our grievances were more with local gangs and hoodlums and not the powerful elite working night and day to suppress us.

I just don't think outward racism and 4chan language is a recipe for success, as you absolutely need a solid contingent of minorities to win.

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I agree with this as well. Nick Fuentes made an effort to clean up some of that back in like 2023 I think. But he still slips up from time to time on his personal show. The people watching his show are mostly hardcore supporters, so they dont care. But it is further fodder for the left (or GOP right) to use against him.Obviously he doesn't talk like that when he's infront of a more general audience. It's the same as how you presumably talk differently when you are around close personal friends.

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I dont think the majority of us have racist conversations when amongst close personal friends.

And it's not a slip up if it's what you believe.

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shack009 said:

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Woke Right thinks the worst thing you can be is racist (actually, just being labeled racist, not truly being racist) while they celebrate the destruction of our country.

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I don't know a single person who thinks this. Thinking mainstream racism and hatred is damaging to your political party or causes though, I can see.

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Again, nobody is racist in the way you mean it when you say it. Nobody is hateful to broad groups of people simply for being born that way. It's anti-Christian.

It's really strange that you claim to watch AF and you seem to imply you watched the Tucker interview, when all this stuff is brought up in the Tucker interview and on his show constantly.

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Keyno said:

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El Gallo Blanco said:

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Keyno said:

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There is a generational thing going on here. If you are over 40, you wouldn't get it. Gen Z does not care about racism. They grew up calling each other racial slurs on Call of Duty and reading 4chan. They grew up in a time when liberalism and George Floyd worship was being shoved down everyones throats. This is the way Gen Z talks. It's shocking to older people, I am sure, but it is what it is.

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I know, I get it, and sympathize with them. I can almost guarantee me and my buddies were more racist and said more racist things in the 90's. We formed a white gang to protect ourselves from the cholos back in the day lol. Only diff being our grievances were more with local gangs and hoodlums and not the powerful elite working night and day to suppress us.

I just don't think outward racism and 4chan language is a recipe for success, as you absolutely need a solid contingent of minorities to win.

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I agree with this as well. Nick Fuentes made an effort to clean up some of that back in like 2023 I think. But he still slips up from time to time on his personal show. The people watching his show are mostly hardcore supporters, so they dont care. But it is further fodder for the left (or GOP right) to use against him.Obviously he doesn't talk like that when he's infront of a more general audience. It's the same as how you presumably talk differently when you are around close personal friends.

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I dont think the majority of us have racist conversations when amongst close personal friends.

And it's not a slip up if it's what you believe.

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As I said earlier, its a generational thing.

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Keyno said:

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El Gallo Blanco said:

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Keyno said:

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There is a generational thing going on here. If you are over 40, you wouldn't get it. Gen Z does not care about racism. They grew up calling each other racial slurs on Call of Duty and reading 4chan. They grew up in a time when liberalism and George Floyd worship was being shoved down everyones throats. This is the way Gen Z talks. It's shocking to older people, I am sure, but it is what it is.

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I know, I get it, and sympathize with them. I can almost guarantee me and my buddies were more racist and said more racist things in the 90's. We formed a white gang to protect ourselves from the cholos back in the day lol. Only diff being our grievances were more with local gangs and hoodlums and not the powerful elite working night and day to suppress us.

I just don't think outward racism and 4chan language is a recipe for success, as you absolutely need a solid contingent of minorities to win.

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I agree with this as well. Nick Fuentes made an effort to clean up some of that back in like 2023 I think. But he still slips up from time to time on his personal show. The people watching his show are mostly hardcore supporters, so they dont care. But it is further fodder for the left (or GOP right) to use against him.Obviously he doesn't talk like that when he's infront of a more general audience. It's the same as how you presumably talk differently when you are around close personal friends.

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I dont think the majority of us have racist conversations when amongst close personal friends.

And it's not a slip up if it's what you believe.

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By "slip up" he means using the n word. Fuentes has tried to clean up the use of it recently. But either way, it isn't racist to use it.

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El Gallo Blanco said:

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Keyno said:

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There is a generational thing going on here. If you are over 40, you wouldn't get it. Gen Z does not care about racism. They grew up calling each other racial slurs on Call of Duty and reading 4chan. They grew up in a time when liberalism and George Floyd worship was being shoved down everyones throats. This is the way Gen Z talks. It's shocking to older people, I am sure, but it is what it is.

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I just don't think outward racism and 4chan language is a recipe for success, as you absolutely need a solid contingent of minorities to win.

Gen Z would be much more wise to follow the Charlie Kirk path and not the Nick Fuentes one. Unless they just want to lose every election going fwd so they can b*tch and keep playing victim.

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Again telling on yourself. If you watched the show you would see all the superchats from women and minorities. He probably has a better percentage of minority support among young people than Rs get votes as a percentage of the minority population.

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Gen Z would be much more wise to follow the Charlie Kirk path and not the Nick Fuentes one. Unless they just want to lose every election going fwd so they can b*tch and keep playing victim.

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If you are strictly talking about winning elections while ceding every moral principle, then yes.

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So this is what Charlie Kirk did, and Nick Fuentes is the answer? Is 09 your birth year? Sorry, just want to know what I am dealing with here. What an insane take. Charlie Kirk was not some fake RINO.

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shack009 said:

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El Gallo Blanco said:

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Keyno said:

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There is a generational thing going on here. If you are over 40, you wouldn't get it. Gen Z does not care about racism. They grew up calling each other racial slurs on Call of Duty and reading 4chan. They grew up in a time when liberalism and George Floyd worship was being shoved down everyones throats. This is the way Gen Z talks. It's shocking to older people, I am sure, but it is what it is.

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I just don't think outward racism and 4chan language is a recipe for success, as you absolutely need a solid contingent of minorities to win.

Gen Z would be much more wise to follow the Charlie Kirk path and not the Nick Fuentes one. Unless they just want to lose every election going fwd so they can b*tch and keep playing victim.

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Again telling on yourself. If you watched the show you would see all the superchats from women and minorities. He probably has a better percentage of minority support among young people than Rs get votes as a percentage of the minority population.

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Gen Z would be much more wise to follow the Charlie Kirk path and not the Nick Fuentes one. Unless they just want to lose every election going fwd so they can b*tch and keep playing victim.

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If you are strictly talking about winning elections while ceding every moral principle, then yes.

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So this is what Charlie Kirk did, and Nick Fuentes is the answer? Is 09 your birth year? Sorry, just want to know what I am dealing with here. What an insane take.

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Correct, Charlie Kirk's primary goal was winning elections. He was a voter-turnout guy. He said he would stop talking about the Epstein stuff basically because Trump told him to. He was absolutely Party First.

I was born in 1991.

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shack009 said:

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Woke Right thinks the worst thing you can be is racist (actually, just being labeled racist, not truly being racist) while they celebrate the destruction of our country.

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I don't know a single person who thinks this. Thinking mainstream racism and hatred is damaging to your political party or causes though, I can see.

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You are exactly right!!

Fuentes is not MAGA. Far from it. He does not like Trump and worked against him.

The Democrats made a huge error in embracing the radicals on the left. It killing their party.

Now, losers like Fuentes (and those here who got their skulls caved in this year on their defending of Iran and Hamas) want the GOP to do the same. Its a recipe for disaster.

The Republican Party will lose in 2026 and 2028 if it embraces the Trump hating fake conservatives. MAGA is the way to go.

JD Vance addressed Fuentes in 2024: “Look, I think the guy's a total loser. Certainly I disavow him. … Don’t feed the trolls and they’ll go away.”pic.twitter.com/uqtZjSwivm

— Charlie Spiering (@charliespiering) October 31, 2025

Nick Fuentes is MAGA from 2016, what Trump originally was. Fuentes supported Trump in 2016 and 2020- even leading "Stop the Steal" rallies for Trump in 2020. Fuentes went against Trump in 2024 because Trump's new policies are unrecognizable from the 2016 message. It was just the boilerplate GOP establishment party line at that point.

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Nick Fuentes is MAGA from 2016, what Trump originally was. Fuentes supported Trump in 2016 and 2020- even leading "Stop the Steal" rallies for Trump in 2020. Fuentes went against Trump in 2024 because Trump's new policies are unrecognizable from the 2016 message. It was just the boilerplate GOP establishment party line at that point.

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BS.

Fuentes tried to make Trump something he was not.

This has to be a joke:

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Fuentes went against Trump in 2024 because Trump's new policies are unrecognizable from the 2016 message. It was just the boilerplate GOP establishment party line at that point.

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And sorry if I don't take seriously the opinions of someone on what is or what not MAGA that said JD Vance is an enemy of America!

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El Gallo Blanco said:

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shack009 said:

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Woke Right thinks the worst thing you can be is racist (actually, just being labeled racist, not truly being racist) while they celebrate the destruction of our country.

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I don't know a single person who thinks this. Thinking mainstream racism and hatred is damaging to your political party or causes though, I can see.

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You are exactly right!!

Fuentes is not MAGA. Far from it. He does not like Trump and worked against him.

The Democrats made a huge error in embracing the radicals on the left. It killing their party.

Now, losers like Fuentes (and those here who got their skulls caved in this year on their defending of Iran and Hamas) want the GOP to do the same. Its a recipe for disaster.

The Republican Party will lose in 2026 and 2028 if it embraces the Trump hating fake conservatives. MAGA is the way to go.

JD Vance addressed Fuentes in 2024: “Look, I think the guy's a total loser. Certainly I disavow him. … Don’t feed the trolls and they’ll go away.”pic.twitter.com/uqtZjSwivm

— Charlie Spiering (@charliespiering) October 31, 2025

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Yep...I personally think Fuentes is ultimately ONLY about himself...burn it all doen as long as he can stay relevant. He is hyper-sensitive, to a very feminine degree...and he sometimes argues like a female. He has to know that him becoming the face of the right wing would completely kill the right wing.

And I will admit, I sometimes agree with him and side with him on some issues...I could probably say that about Hitler or Mussolini too though. I actually feel kind of bad for the kid (if not a fed). He is terrified of getting married or having children because he is so hyper self-absorbed and selfish that he is petrified of his life changing in the slightest or having to sacrifice anything for others. He may be closeted homosexual now that I think about it.

Really my biggest issue with him is constantly claming to be some pious and highly devout Catholic, but not knowing a single thing about Christ. He is a horrible representative of Christianity. So many of his prominent traits and qualities, New Testament scripture speaks out dirrectly against.

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Keyno said:

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Nick Fuentes is MAGA from 2016, what Trump originally was. Fuentes supported Trump in 2016 and 2020- even leading "Stop the Steal" rallies for Trump in 2020. Fuentes went against Trump in 2024 because Trump's new policies are unrecognizable from the 2016 message. It was just the boilerplate GOP establishment party line at that point.

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BS.

Fuentes tried to make Trump something he was not.

This has to be a joke:

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Fuentes went against Trump in 2024 because Trump's new policies are unrecognizable from the 2016 message. It was just the boilerplate GOP establishment party line at that point.

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You obviously do not remember the original MAGA 2016 message- build the wall, mass deportations, no new wars, draining the swamp, ending H1-B, ending corruption, Americanism, not globalism, and most importantly- NOT BEHOLDEN TO FOREIGN AND SPECIAL INTERESTS.

Does any of that sound like 2024 Trump? Does Trump talk about any of that stuff anymore, besides the deportations, which he is not doing?