shack009 said:

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Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:

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Please lock this stupid thread and quit giving that idiot space

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That's right, shut down discourse. The far right makes casual conservatives become lefties.

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What you call discourse is nothing more than pearl clutching beta paranoia about an idiot that has nothing to do with MAGA or TPUSA, yet betas quake in their boots when the constantly lying liberals try and gaslight conservatives with lies. Gaslighting only works on the neutered.

Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:

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Please lock this stupid thread and quit giving that idiot space

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I thought we conservatives were pro free speech and pro open debate. The left is the party of censorship I thought

SquirrellyDan said:

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First, this is in no way related to Charlie Kirk and I'm not saying the killer was alt right.

I'm wondering who here knew about Nick Fuentes prior to this happening? I've watched a few of his videos and the conservative movement needs to do everything they can to separate themselves from this guy and those like him. Guys like this are the problem and allow the left to group the right with people like Nick Fuentes, and we absolutely need to do more than what's already been done (if anything) to draw the line between the right and extremists like Nick Fuentes. Curious to see how others here view this guy.

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Yes. I have known who Nick is for a long time. I'm surprised anyone on here would not know who is.

Keyno said:

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Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:

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Please lock this stupid thread and quit giving that idiot space

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I thought we conservatives were pro free speech and pro open debate. The left is the party of censorship I thought

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Free speech means the government doesn't silence you. It does not mean TexAgs posters or this site have to embrace Fuentes' antisemitic message.

That said, I think a thread exposing who Nick Fuentes is and why conservatives should want nothing to do with him has value and shouldn't be locked.

Nick had roughly 200k live viewers watching his Rumble stream discussing the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

Whether you like it or not, Nick is here to stay. He is completely dominating right wing politics among Gen Z.

I encourage everyone to do some independent research by watching his source material rather than reading an article from your favorite partisan hack. You may just be surprised.

“He [Charlie Kirk] was my opponent. But I would never wish death upon him. It is undeniable that he was a towering figure in American Conservatism.”

- Nick Fuentes pic.twitter.com/IUpVvliFEI

— 𝐑𝐞𝐚𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐚𝐫𝐲 𝐆𝐫𝐨𝐲𝐩𝐞𝐫 (@groypergreen07) September 14, 2025

OK curiosity got the better of me as usual. Nick is a nutcase.

Nm

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SquirrellyDan said:

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First, this is in no way related to Charlie Kirk and I'm not saying the killer was alt right.

I'm wondering who here knew about Nick Fuentes prior to this happening? I've watched a few of his videos and the conservative movement needs to do everything they can to separate themselves from this guy and those like him. Guys like this are the problem and allow the left to group the right with people like Nick Fuentes, and we absolutely need to do more than what's already been done (if anything) to draw the line between the right and extremists like Nick Fuentes. Curious to see how others here view this guy.

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Yes. I have known who Nick is for a long time. I'm surprised anyone on here would not know who is.

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I barely knew who Charlie Kirk was. I'm not the demographic either are talking to or need to talk to.

Patriot25 said:

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OK curiosity got the better of me as usual. Nick is a nutcase.

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He's a clickbait artist, he says shocking things to please his dedicated followers and drive traffic to monetize his content. He's not changing anyone's mind. Glorified shock jock, a poor man's Alex Jones.

Stonegateag85 said:

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Yes, he's a racist anti semitic pos.

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Thank you. I finally clicked on this thread planning to add essentially just that thought. Your brevity is excellent and on point, better than I would have typed out.

End of thread.

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shack009 said:

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Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:

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Please lock this stupid thread and quit giving that idiot space

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That's right, shut down discourse. The far right makes casual conservatives become lefties.

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What you call discourse is nothing more than pearl clutching beta paranoia about an idiot that has nothing to do with MAGA or TPUSA, yet betas quake in their boots when the constantly lying liberals try and gaslight conservatives with lies. Gaslighting only works on the neutered.

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What keeps the Fuentes' of the right from being seen as maga? I know they're "further right," than maga, or at least seen themselves that way, but what does further right than maga even look like?

When progressives and Democrat politicians starting being concerned about ANTIFA and Trans domestic terrorist then I will start caring about Nick.

He only gets attention because progressives want him to get attention.

No Spin Ag said:

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Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:

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shack009 said:

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Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:

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Please lock this stupid thread and quit giving that idiot space

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That's right, shut down discourse. The far right makes casual conservatives become lefties.

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What you call discourse is nothing more than pearl clutching beta paranoia about an idiot that has nothing to do with MAGA or TPUSA, yet betas quake in their boots when the constantly lying liberals try and gaslight conservatives with lies. Gaslighting only works on the neutered.

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What keeps the Fuentes' of the right from being seen as maga? I know they're "further right," than maga, or at least seen themselves that way, but what does further right than maga even look like?

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Not sure why you directed that to me, I never claimed he was anything but a clickbait clown, saying shocking stuff to drive traffic to his content and monetize his channel. He's an act, a caricature, masquerading, as some kind of unstoppable force when he's just one slap from being a beech. He's not trying to make a difference or change anything he's trying to get paid. He wants to be Andrew Tate or something but he's a complete fraud. His goal is to stir the pot and run and hide.

No Spin Ag said:

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Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:

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shack009 said:

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Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:

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Please lock this stupid thread and quit giving that idiot space

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That's right, shut down discourse. The far right makes casual conservatives become lefties.

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What you call discourse is nothing more than pearl clutching beta paranoia about an idiot that has nothing to do with MAGA or TPUSA, yet betas quake in their boots when the constantly lying liberals try and gaslight conservatives with lies. Gaslighting only works on the neutered.

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What keeps the Fuentes' of the right from being seen as maga? I know they're "further right," than maga, or at least seen themselves that way, but what does further right than maga even look like?

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Well for for one thing, haven't ever clearly seen what the other side defines as `MAGA' or what they think it is. Alot of it is just simply hard anti-left with alot of Tea Party values and basic Reagan revival strains mixed with populism. Many confuse it with some kind of Trump worship but its just that Trump fights, and none one else other than Ted Cruz hardly did (and was also hated by squishes) What it really is admiration of anti-timidity and finally hitting back. The MSM has needed dismantling all century for example. Yet something as outlier as open re-segregationist or whatever is directly implied is not a major value --- yet. (Unchecked behavior like the subway may do it)

Its kind of like until second term Obama (who certainly changed the tone) and Biden outright -- you wouldn't just assume Weatherman and Black Panthers were "the Liberals." That's changed, but it was those two admins doing.

titan said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:

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shack009 said:

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Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:

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Please lock this stupid thread and quit giving that idiot space

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That's right, shut down discourse. The far right makes casual conservatives become lefties.

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What you call discourse is nothing more than pearl clutching beta paranoia about an idiot that has nothing to do with MAGA or TPUSA, yet betas quake in their boots when the constantly lying liberals try and gaslight conservatives with lies. Gaslighting only works on the neutered.

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What keeps the Fuentes' of the right from being seen as maga? I know they're "further right," than maga, or at least seen themselves that way, but what does further right than maga even look like?

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Well for for one thing, haven't ever clearly seen what the other side defines as `MAGA' or what they think it is. Alot of it is just simply hard anti-left with alot of Tea Party values and basic Reagan revival strains mixed with populism. Many confuse it with some kind of Trump worship but its just that Trump fights, and none one else other than Ted Cruz hardly did (and was also hated by squishes) What it really is admiration of anti-timidity and finally hitting back. The MSM has needed dismantling all century for example. Yet something as outlier as open re-segregationist or whatever is directly implied is not a major value --- yet. (Unchecked behavior like the subway may do it)

Its kind of like until second term Obama (who certainly changed the tone) and Biden outright -- you wouldn't just assume Weatherman and Black Panthers were "the Liberals." That's changed, but it was those two admins doing.

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That makes all the sense in the world about what maga is. O mean, the right (Trump or whoever) came up with it and ran with it. Genius level politicking, IMO.

I just thought that he Fuentes and Kirks and Shapiros on the right were all on the same page and like by all equally. That's why when I heard there was a guy and a group that was further right, it was surprising to me.

I shouldn't have been, though. I mean the left had their far-left that then had even further left (radicals like antifa).

Anyway, thanks for the input, Titan; I appreciate it.

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No Spin Ag said:

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Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:

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shack009 said:

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Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:

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Please lock this stupid thread and quit giving that idiot space

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That's right, shut down discourse. The far right makes casual conservatives become lefties.

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What you call discourse is nothing more than pearl clutching beta paranoia about an idiot that has nothing to do with MAGA or TPUSA, yet betas quake in their boots when the constantly lying liberals try and gaslight conservatives with lies. Gaslighting only works on the neutered.

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What keeps the Fuentes' of the right from being seen as maga? I know they're "further right," than maga, or at least seen themselves that way, but what does further right than maga even look like?

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Not sure why you directed that to me, I never claimed he was anything but a clickbait clown, saying shocking stuff to drive traffic to his content and monetize his channel. He's an act, a caricature, masquerading, as some kind of unstoppable force when he's just one slap from being a beech. He's not trying to make a difference or change anything he's trying to get paid. He wants to be Andrew Tate or something but he's a complete fraud. His goal is to stir the pot and run and hide.

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I wasn't directing, I was just hoping for information.

He sounds like the worst of what's going on in politics from what you say. No one needs that in their party, left, right, or whatever.

Thanks for edumicating me. Appreciate it.

True "MAGA" is center-right; what old school Dems were. Trump is a perfect example. Old school Dem who loves America, even if he's completely wrong on fiscal issues due to his liberal slant. I'm not talking about some of the professed conservative posters here who simply supported him over Biden/Harris. We were left with no real choice in '24.

Fuentes is a ****ing moron....full stop. He's not "far" anything but "****ing moron".


And, yes, I knew about his dumbass before all of "this".

Trump is a middle of the road republican. He's extremely moderate, if not liberal, on most issues. He has slightly more intestinal fortitude on removing criminal illegals from the interior than most republicans. That's about the only difference.

The media has done a number on people to make them think that that's far right.

Yes , unfortunately i knew of Nick Fuentes.

Ironically, i only remember my liberal friends spreading his name around in the past. Anyhow, he's complete trash from everything ive seen from him.

I encourage ya'll to start watching his show and welcome you if you are new. Groypers are everywhere and are inevitable.

Some of us on here were at groyper war 2019, so about 6 years.

Tons of lies about Nick, which is expected.

I can't have any political discourse on here without getting banned, so it's hard to respond to anyone. I'd love to hang out and be able to browse and comment. You can grill me all you want it doesn't bother me. It's annoying seeing fellow conservatives get lied to about a lot of things though and we hate seeing that.

Hello fren

I see you Keyno! Hello

Red Pill Ninja said:

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I encourage ya'll to start watching his show and welcome you if you are new. Groypers are everywhere and are inevitable.

Some of us on here were at groyper war 2019, so about 6 years.

Tons of lies about Nick, which is expected.

I can't have any political discourse on here without getting banned, so it's hard to respond to anyone. I'd love to hang out and be able to browse and comment. You can grill me all you want it doesn't bother me. It's annoying seeing fellow conservatives get lied to about a lot of things though and we hate seeing that.

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Who is we? Are you a groyper?

SquirrellyDan said:

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Red Pill Ninja said:

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I encourage ya'll to start watching his show and welcome you if you are new. Groypers are everywhere and are inevitable.

Some of us on here were at groyper war 2019, so about 6 years.

Tons of lies about Nick, which is expected.

I can't have any political discourse on here without getting banned, so it's hard to respond to anyone. I'd love to hang out and be able to browse and comment. You can grill me all you want it doesn't bother me. It's annoying seeing fellow conservatives get lied to about a lot of things though and we hate seeing that.

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Who is we? Are you a groyper?

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"...we hate seeing that." Anyone who is anywhere in the conservative space hates seeing fellow conservatives being lied to.

The overwhelming majority of conservatives are well meaning people that want the best for this country, and are legitimately concerned about the future generations. We love our country and see the left as a huge problem, but some of us point out other issues as well. Apparently, those issues can't be talked about within the conservative movement, and that's part of the lie.

SquirrellyDan said:

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First, this is in no way related to Charlie Kirk and I'm not saying the killer was alt right.

I'm wondering who here knew about Nick Fuentes prior to this happening? I've watched a few of his videos and the conservative movement needs to do everything they can to separate themselves from this guy and those like him. Guys like this are the problem and allow the left to group the right with people like Nick Fuentes, and we absolutely need to do more than what's already been done (if anything) to draw the line between the right and extremists like Nick Fuentes. Curious to see how others here view this guy.

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I fully agree, the actual conservative movement should do all it can to distance itself from Nick Fuentes, but it will be moot.

The left controls the message. Remember, Charlie Kirk was hateful, racist, bigoted, etc. According to the media and the official narrative.

I cannot find a single piece of evidence showing that to be true, but many believe it.

My point? It doesn't matter what is true. It matters what the Marxists can get the masses to believe.

Patriot25 said:

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OK curiosity got the better of me as usual. Nick is a nutcase.

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Thank you for posting. I had not seen that one before.

Sq 17 said:

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He might be an outlier and a category unto himself
He was still invited for a sit down with the presumptive R nominee for president

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That's an ignorant take. I hate the idea if you don't have "right think" you are useless or your ideas aren't worth debating.

It's not like Trump put him in his campaign.

You as a lefty should try to be more liberal and not be afraid of someone with different ideas.

Stonegateag85 said:

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Yes, he's a racist anti semetic pos.

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Yup. He's to be taken as seriously as Loomer, Candace Owens, and their fellow F16 whack job supporters. Thankfully there's only a few of them. Let them continue to espouse their ideas of anti-semitism so we all know exactly who they are.

No Spin Ag said:

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titan said:

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No Spin Ag said:

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Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:

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shack009 said:

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Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:

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Please lock this stupid thread and quit giving that idiot space

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That's right, shut down discourse. The far right makes casual conservatives become lefties.

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What you call discourse is nothing more than pearl clutching beta paranoia about an idiot that has nothing to do with MAGA or TPUSA, yet betas quake in their boots when the constantly lying liberals try and gaslight conservatives with lies. Gaslighting only works on the neutered.

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What keeps the Fuentes' of the right from being seen as maga? I know they're "further right," than maga, or at least seen themselves that way, but what does further right than maga even look like?

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Well for for one thing, haven't ever clearly seen what the other side defines as `MAGA' or what they think it is. Alot of it is just simply hard anti-left with alot of Tea Party values and basic Reagan revival strains mixed with populism. Many confuse it with some kind of Trump worship but its just that Trump fights, and none one else other than Ted Cruz hardly did (and was also hated by squishes) What it really is admiration of anti-timidity and finally hitting back. The MSM has needed dismantling all century for example. Yet something as outlier as open re-segregationist or whatever is directly implied is not a major value --- yet. (Unchecked behavior like the subway may do it)

Its kind of like until second term Obama (who certainly changed the tone) and Biden outright -- you wouldn't just assume Weatherman and Black Panthers were "the Liberals." That's changed, but it was those two admins doing.

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That makes all the sense in the world about what maga is. O mean, the right (Trump or whoever) came up with it and ran with it. Genius level politicking, IMO.

I just thought that he Fuentes and Kirks and Shapiros on the right were all on the same page and like by all equally. That's why when I heard there was a guy and a group that was further right, it was surprising to me.

I shouldn't have been, though. I mean the left had their far-left that then had even further left (radicals like antifa).

Anyway, thanks for the input, Titan; I appreciate it.

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No Spin,

Ah, I see just how unclear it was for you. No, Kirk and Shapiro are not like Fuentes at all. And even in Fuentes' defense, as far as I know have never heard his name associated with advocating violence. He is just one of those fringe view points you also don't want to entirely silence because they can have their point. From what I have heard, he is completely turned off of and cynical about the idea of race relations and multiculturalism that he (if correct, I may be wrong) he wanted a white Israel. If wrong, and he is not the man, I apologize. Nor am I saying he has to recant that cynical view. We are seeing considerable evidence of multiculturalism's failure.

But that's just the thing -- one of the reasons the Right rarely wins election is precisely for the fact we are not interchangeable. You can have a complete sap like Kinzinger who is as probably as left as you can go without being officially a Democrat, then start sliding rightward on the scale. You encounter Limbaugh well before Shapiro. Shapiro is a much sterner guy than Kirk, and pro Israel probably unconditionally. Charlie Kirk needs no description now, bless his memory. Fuentes and Jared Taylor are well to the right. But they are still not the Antifa equivalent -- I don't think they support violence. More like the Scott Adams conclusion on steroids.

Can anyone post Fuentes' antisemitic principles?

jeremy said:

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Can anyone post Fuentes' antisemitic principles?

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He's critical of the Jewish religion because it rejects and blasphemes Christ, and he is a devout Catholic. He's critical of the state of Israel because he feels it has too much influence over our foreign policy. He also feels they are doing a genocide in Gaza. He's critical of powerful American Jews because he feels they hold dual loyalty with Israel and put Israel first.

Keyno said:

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jeremy said:

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Can anyone post Fuentes' antisemitic principles?

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He's critical of the Jewish religion because it rejects and blasphemes Christ, and he is a devout Catholic. He's critical of the state of Israel because he feels it has too much influence over our foreign policy. He also feels they are doing a genocide in Gaza. He's critical of powerful American Jews because he feels they hold dual loyalty with Israel and put Israel first.

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So he is sort of one of those `Vatican I' style Catholics. That can explain some things and they have their point and place. On foreign policy, probably true, but it is also because the oil in the region had too much influence. I am less sure it would be as great if everything else was the same but Israel was where Congo or Rwanda are. The surprise is he buys the genocide line ---- Oct 7 actually rated more Axis treatment anyway and if anything they look to be rather sparing compared to that. Consider what China or Russia would have done to such an attack and thats what was asked for.