Did you know who Nick Fuentes was before all this?

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Keyno said:

titan said:

Keyno said:

titan said:

Keyno said:

titan said:

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I've seen Tom Fox post "never relax" on certain violent crime threads. I think he gets the gist of the race aspect.

But have you considered, that controversial as may be, it is not a race aspect, but a political affiliation in installed worldview of entitlement one and also related to how the society treats crime and is organized?

Saying its NOT race is not controversial at all. I have considered it yes.

Your emoji shows you misunderstood. The controversial part is saying the overtop feral cases don't seem to be Republican blacks, ever. Does anyone look at this?

Come on bro. You literally said this on this very page: "You should not look down on those older than 50 unless they are just hurling canned talking points on you."

This is why the zoomers have disdain for the olds. Its also why the olds can never really understand where the zoomers are coming from.

I did, And what I am saying you posted a laugh at the suggestion, but didn't realize what the suggestion was. It wasn't only that race may not be it, it is what wanted looked at --- is it ever? Why is it when seeing that scene in NC it comes into mind "zero chance is an R". Does that assumption have any basis.If yes, why.

You are trying to say the black guy knifed that white woman because he is a democrat? Come on titan

He is conflating culture and genetics. There is certainly a significant overlap between culture and race. But criminality statistics by race hold across every nation. You cannot argue with a straight face that a bad culture developed in all of those different countries apart from genetics. In an individual nation culture is a good proxy for race, but genetics is the driving force behind criminality.

Of course it is much more politically palatable today to claim that it is a cultural issue.

The genetic component that causes criminality is a lack of impulse control. When science identifies that gene and starts testing populations, the issue will be evident.
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That's what kind of bothers. Is this ever really investigated fairly. With the detachment of trying to figure out volcanic eruption types? Its pretty evident its No. I don't know the answer you are interested in. One stat would like to know though, about all these horrid cases (subway the latest) is there something to the TexAg's satirical "Democrats Democrating" are the feral and regressive ever Republican ones. On this also rests the idea its nurture, not nature type thing.

I fully bought into the nurture point but then over 30 years passed. Another generation. IDK anymore.
titan
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Tom Fox said:

Keyno said:

titan said:

Keyno said:

titan said:

Keyno said:

titan said:

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I've seen Tom Fox post "never relax" on certain violent crime threads. I think he gets the gist of the race aspect.

But have you considered, that controversial as may be, it is not a race aspect, but a political affiliation in installed worldview of entitlement one and also related to how the society treats crime and is organized?

Saying its NOT race is not controversial at all. I have considered it yes.

Your emoji shows you misunderstood. The controversial part is saying the overtop feral cases don't seem to be Republican blacks, ever. Does anyone look at this?

Come on bro. You literally said this on this very page: "You should not look down on those older than 50 unless they are just hurling canned talking points on you."

This is why the zoomers have disdain for the olds. Its also why the olds can never really understand where the zoomers are coming from.

I did, And what I am saying you posted a laugh at the suggestion, but didn't realize what the suggestion was. It wasn't only that race may not be it, it is what wanted looked at --- is it ever? Why is it when seeing that scene in NC it comes into mind "zero chance is an R". Does that assumption have any basis.If yes, why.

You are trying to say the black guy knifed that white woman because he is a democrat? Come on titan

He is conflating culture and genetics. There is certainly a significant overlap between culture and race. But criminality statistics by race hold across every nation. You cannot argue with a straight face that a bad culture developed in all of those different countries apart from genetics. In an individual nation culture is a good proxy for race, but genetics is the driving force behind criminality.

Of course it is much more politically palatable today to claim that it is a cultural issue.

The genetic component that causes criminality is a lack of impulse control. When science identifies that gene and starts testing populations, the issue will be evident.

Now we are getting somewhere. So you are saying the italics actually manifests even in nations with extremely hostile to crime judicial systems and different set ups. Okay. That sortof asks the question was trying to ask.
Tom Fox
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titan said:


There is nothing "canned talking points in this question" -- I daresay maybe haven't heard it that way.

If race is the factor, why does there appear to be an entire block that doesn't behave that way? I don't see anyone asking the question and its pretty pertinent in this abyss nearing.

The bell curve. The median for lack of impulse control for blacks will be to the left of whites but there will still be blacks on the right side of the curve and whites to the far left.

That is why it is not useful for judging individuals but great for judging populations.
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Tom Fox said:

Keyno said:

titan said:

Keyno said:

titan said:

Keyno said:

titan said:

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I've seen Tom Fox post "never relax" on certain violent crime threads. I think he gets the gist of the race aspect.

But have you considered, that controversial as may be, it is not a race aspect, but a political affiliation in installed worldview of entitlement one and also related to how the society treats crime and is organized?

Saying its NOT race is not controversial at all. I have considered it yes.

Your emoji shows you misunderstood. The controversial part is saying the overtop feral cases don't seem to be Republican blacks, ever. Does anyone look at this?

Come on bro. You literally said this on this very page: "You should not look down on those older than 50 unless they are just hurling canned talking points on you."

This is why the zoomers have disdain for the olds. Its also why the olds can never really understand where the zoomers are coming from.

I did, And what I am saying you posted a laugh at the suggestion, but didn't realize what the suggestion was. It wasn't only that race may not be it, it is what wanted looked at --- is it ever? Why is it when seeing that scene in NC it comes into mind "zero chance is an R". Does that assumption have any basis.If yes, why.

You are trying to say the black guy knifed that white woman because he is a democrat? Come on titan

He is conflating culture and genetics. There is certainly a significant overlap between culture and race. But criminality statistics by race hold across every nation. You cannot argue with a straight face that a bad culture developed in all of those different countries apart from genetics. In an individual nation culture is a good proxy for race, but genetics is the driving force behind criminality.

Of course it is much more politically palatable today to claim that it is a cultural issue.

The genetic component that causes criminality is a lack of impulse control. When science identifies that gene and starts testing populations, the issue will be evident.

Yeah I know what he's doing. I find it funny that he thinks its some profound suggestion, or that no one on the far right has considered it.
titan
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aggiehawg said:

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That's what kind of bothers. Is this ever really investigated fairly. With the detachment of trying to figure out volcanic eruption types? Its pretty evident its No. I don't know the answer you are interested in. One stat would like to know though, about all these horrid cases (subway the latest) is there something to the TexAg's satirical "Democrats Democrating" are the feral and regressive ever Republican ones. On this also rests the idea its nurture, not nature type thing.

I fully bought into the nurture point but then over 30 years passed. Another generation. IDK anymore.

Agreed. I don't either. We both grew up with similar paradigms. Tom Fox has introduced something not aware of -- a scientific aspect done by incarceration and ICE, etc. Much to consider.
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Yeah I know what he's doing. I find it funny that he thinks its some profound suggestion, or that no one on the far right has considered it.

The only thing wondering is wonder why the big exception is not discussed much by either side. But Tom Fox has addressed it, and apparently with some real experience. Defer to him.
Keyno
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titan said:


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Yeah I know what he's doing. I find it funny that he thinks its some profound suggestion, or that no one on the far right has considered it.

The only thing wondering is wonder why the big exception is not discussed much by either side. But Tom Fox has addressed it, and apparently with some real experience. Defer to him.

You defer to him. He's not telling me anything I am unaware of.
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titan said:

aggiehawg said:

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That's what kind of bothers. Is this ever really investigated fairly. With the detachment of trying to figure out volcanic eruption types? Its pretty evident its No. I don't know the answer you are interested in. One stat would like to know though, about all these horrid cases (subway the latest) is there something to the TexAg's satirical "Democrats Democrating" are the feral and regressive ever Republican ones. On this also rests the idea its nurture, not nature type thing.

I fully bought into the nurture point but then over 30 years passed. Another generation. IDK anymore.

Agreed. I don't either. We both grew up with similar paradigms. Tom Fox has introduced something not aware of -- a scientific aspect done by incarceration and ICE, etc. Much to consider.

Historical precedents after multiple generations? Should be some reliable stats since 1978.
titan
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Keyno said:

titan said:


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Yeah I know what he's doing. I find it funny that he thinks its some profound suggestion, or that no one on the far right has considered it.

The only thing wondering is wonder why the big exception is not discussed much by either side. But Tom Fox has addressed it, and apparently with some real experience. Defer to him.

You defer to him. He's not telling me anything I am unaware of.

That's what I said. The `Will' was missed keying.
titan
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aggiehawg said:

titan said:

aggiehawg said:

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That's what kind of bothers. Is this ever really investigated fairly. With the detachment of trying to figure out volcanic eruption types? Its pretty evident its No. I don't know the answer you are interested in. One stat would like to know though, about all these horrid cases (subway the latest) is there something to the TexAg's satirical "Democrats Democrating" are the feral and regressive ever Republican ones. On this also rests the idea its nurture, not nature type thing.

I fully bought into the nurture point but then over 30 years passed. Another generation. IDK anymore.

Agreed. I don't either. We both grew up with similar paradigms. Tom Fox has introduced something not aware of -- a scientific aspect done by incarceration and ICE, etc. Much to consider.

Historical precedents after multiple generations? Should be some reliable stats since 1978.

Your correct. Don't know. One vague possibility -- ironically Muslim nations have had some considerable experience with attempting to meld blocks of different race groups. Perhaps some illumination could be found in those.
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Old McDonald said:

difficult to believe someone who views nick fuentes as moderate has a solid pulse on the state of conservatism


I said he's moderate in comparison to his followers not to general conservatism.
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No surprise. fuentes is kind of an *******.
Stone Choir
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titan said:


There is nothing "canned talking points in this question" -- I daresay maybe haven't heard it that way.

If race is the factor, why does there appear to be an entire block that doesn't behave that way? I don't see anyone asking the question and its pretty pertinent in this abyss nearing.


1/3 of all black men will have a felony in their life and that's just what gets arrested, a lot of these crimes go unreported.

Race is and always will be the primary factor, it's why crime stats matchup globally by race no matter the nation. Titan I have been over this very topic with you for years now. I was a different poster back then but we've covered this same topic dozens of times previously. I've posted endless amounts of data to you. How could you possibly have forgotten it all?

I've had over 50 accounts here that have all been permabanned for posting about these things. We've had numerous conversations over the exact same issue.
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Stone Choir said:

titan said:


There is nothing "canned talking points in this question" -- I daresay maybe haven't heard it that way.

If race is the factor, why does there appear to be an entire block that doesn't behave that way? I don't see anyone asking the question and its pretty pertinent in this abyss nearing.


1/3 of all black men will have a felony in their life and that's just what gets arrested, a lot of these crimes go unreported.

Race is and always will be the primary factor, it's why crime stats matchup globally by race no matter the nation. Titan I have been over this very topic with you for years now. I was a different poster back then but we've covered this same topic dozens of times previously. I've posted endless amounts of data to you. How could you possibly have forgotten it all?

I've had over 50 accounts here that have all been permabanned for posting about these things. We've had numerous conversations over the exact same issue.


It's not race it's culture. Ben Shapiro has some great talks about this. The biggest determination of success in the US is growing up with two parents and most black men and women don't. Take a father away from a white kid and they perform similarly, on average. Nigerians and Kenyans are a good example…they don't typically follow along with the African American culture and do well in the US.
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SquirrellyDan said:

Stone Choir said:

titan said:


There is nothing "canned talking points in this question" -- I daresay maybe haven't heard it that way.

If race is the factor, why does there appear to be an entire block that doesn't behave that way? I don't see anyone asking the question and its pretty pertinent in this abyss nearing.


1/3 of all black men will have a felony in their life and that's just what gets arrested, a lot of these crimes go unreported.

Race is and always will be the primary factor, it's why crime stats matchup globally by race no matter the nation. Titan I have been over this very topic with you for years now. I was a different poster back then but we've covered this same topic dozens of times previously. I've posted endless amounts of data to you. How could you possibly have forgotten it all?

I've had over 50 accounts here that have all been permabanned for posting about these things. We've had numerous conversations over the exact same issue.


It's not race it's culture. Ben Shapiro has some great talks about this.


Shapiro knows the truth, he's just gaslighting you.



The average black IQ is one standard deviation lower than white IQ.



Black violent crime rates were the same in 1956 as they are now despite having much higher rates of marriage. It's not a culture thing, this is just how they are. You cannot blame this on culture because this was prior to civil rights and the severe influence of Marxism.
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Stone Choir said:

SquirrellyDan said:

Stone Choir said:

titan said:


There is nothing "canned talking points in this question" -- I daresay maybe haven't heard it that way.

If race is the factor, why does there appear to be an entire block that doesn't behave that way? I don't see anyone asking the question and its pretty pertinent in this abyss nearing.


1/3 of all black men will have a felony in their life and that's just what gets arrested, a lot of these crimes go unreported.

Race is and always will be the primary factor, it's why crime stats matchup globally by race no matter the nation. Titan I have been over this very topic with you for years now. I was a different poster back then but we've covered this same topic dozens of times previously. I've posted endless amounts of data to you. How could you possibly have forgotten it all?

I've had over 50 accounts here that have all been permabanned for posting about these things. We've had numerous conversations over the exact same issue.


It's not race it's culture. Ben Shapiro has some great talks about this.


Shapiro knows the truth, he's just gaslighting you.



The average black IQ is one standard deviation lower than white IQ.



Black violent crime rates were the same in 1956 as they are now despite having much higher rates of marriage. It's not a culture thing, this is just how they are. You cannot blame this on culture because this was prior to civil rights and the severe influence of Marxism.


Ben Shapiro is gaslighting me? OK. Just keep pushing what you're pushing you seem to be all in, good for you.
titan
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Stone Choir said:

titan said:


There is nothing "canned talking points in this question" -- I daresay maybe haven't heard it that way.

If race is the factor, why does there appear to be an entire block that doesn't behave that way? I don't see anyone asking the question and its pretty pertinent in this abyss nearing.


1/3 of all black men will have a felony in their life and that's just what gets arrested, a lot of these crimes go unreported.

Race is and always will be the primary factor, it's why crime stats matchup globally by race no matter the nation. Titan I have been over this very topic with you for years now. I was a different poster back then but we've covered this same topic dozens of times previously. I've posted endless amounts of data to you. How could you possibly have forgotten it all?

I've had over 50 accounts here that have all been permabanned for posting about these things. We've had numerous conversations over the exact same issue.

To be frank, never really saw some smoking gun in similar threads discussions that would settle the nagging doubt that it had a lot to do with say, non Persian level penalties for misconduct. Nor had asked that question quite the way that did --- but the climate now made it necessary. Scientific analyses could not be fairly judged- where genetics like Tom Fox is discussing couldn't tell a lie from truth. Besides, not an office occupant. I have never begrudged the dissident right their sense of betrayal and ire.

But if you saw Gutfeld's meltdown and other things, its all seems kind of moot. Your generation has to preserve itself and what is an absolute fact is the ruling powers did demonstrate in a way still find hard to believe witnessed -- were and are not interested in you doing so at all -- the globalists are quite intent on "fundamentally transforming America" as Obama so crassly put it and see Trump as an annoying interruption. Fine with your wave stopping it.
Keyno
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eh nevermind
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SquirrellyDan said:

Stone Choir said:

SquirrellyDan said:

Stone Choir said:

titan said:


There is nothing "canned talking points in this question" -- I daresay maybe haven't heard it that way.

If race is the factor, why does there appear to be an entire block that doesn't behave that way? I don't see anyone asking the question and its pretty pertinent in this abyss nearing.


1/3 of all black men will have a felony in their life and that's just what gets arrested, a lot of these crimes go unreported.

Race is and always will be the primary factor, it's why crime stats matchup globally by race no matter the nation. Titan I have been over this very topic with you for years now. I was a different poster back then but we've covered this same topic dozens of times previously. I've posted endless amounts of data to you. How could you possibly have forgotten it all?

I've had over 50 accounts here that have all been permabanned for posting about these things. We've had numerous conversations over the exact same issue.


It's not race it's culture. Ben Shapiro has some great talks about this.


Shapiro knows the truth, he's just gaslighting you.



The average black IQ is one standard deviation lower than white IQ.



Black violent crime rates were the same in 1956 as they are now despite having much higher rates of marriage. It's not a culture thing, this is just how they are. You cannot blame this on culture because this was prior to civil rights and the severe influence of Marxism.


Ben Shapiro is gaslighting me? OK. Just keep pushing what you're pushing you seem to be all in, good for you.


"It isn't race, it's culture" is something people love telling themselves because it makes them feel good. It's the kind of thing an average intelligence person says and thinks it sounds intelligent. It also gives people some hope, because if it's cultural, then the problem can be fixed.

It's not cultural. It's genetic. Different races have different genetics. Sub Saharan Africa sucks because sub Saharan Africans live there. White countries are industrialized and better places to live because of white people.

Everybody knows this deep down. Only some are willing to say it.
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titan said:


There is nothing "canned talking points in this question" -- I daresay maybe haven't heard it that way.

If race is the factor, why does there appear to be an entire block that doesn't behave that way? I don't see anyone asking the question and its pretty pertinent in this abyss nearing.


The existence of Yao Ming and Asian basketball players doesn't negate the fact that Asians are a shorter race.
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Fuentes had less than 250k followers on Rumble about 2 weeks ago. He's at almost 350k right now.

Like it or not, people are being pushed farther rightward.
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shack009 said:

Fuentes had less than 250k followers on Rumble about 2 weeks ago. He's at almost 350k right now.

Like it or not, people are being pushed farther rightward.


That translates to millions on YouTube when you do the comparisons since few people know about Rumble.
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I'll take pseudoscience dressed up as "debate' for $100, Alex
nortex97
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Love it. This is the way.
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YouBet said:

Never heard anything from him other than he's considered an actual far right personality by the most of the right.

in reality he is NOT right wing- and he has admitted he is not a conservative in the past when it was useful to him.

when it is useful to him now, he will claim he is conservative.

there is such a thing as the Horseshoe theory- where the far left and the far right merge into each other.

he is just a racist and anti-semite who holds supremacist beliefs and calls it "left" or "right" depending on who he is trying to win over to his insanity.
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LMCane said:

YouBet said:

Never heard anything from him other than he's considered an actual far right personality by the most of the right.

in reality he is NOT right wing- and he has admitted he is not a conservative in the past when it was useful to him.

when it is useful to him now, he will claim he is conservative.

there is such a thing as the Horseshoe theory- where the far left and the far right merge into each other.

he is just a racist and anti-semite who holds supremacist beliefs and calls it "left" or "right" depending on who he is trying to win over to his insanity.

He is extremely conservative on social issues- he is a devout Catholic. When he says "I am not a conservative", he is referring to the American Conservative Inc, neocon meaning.
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nortex97 said:


Love it. This is the way.

Exactly.

When all one has is to blame and denigrate Jews, blacks, or anyone else who isn't "northern European white" and goes so far as to call for their genocide, then that person should be ostracized from society and considered persona non grata.

They can believe what they want, but no one should give them any attention.

Charlie Kirk hated no one. He wanted a better country for all Americans and would never have supported people like Fuentes or that Hitler praising fake Lutheran "pastor" Mahler.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Rapier108 said:

nortex97 said:


Love it. This is the way.

Exactly.

When all one has is to blame and denigrate Jews, blacks, or anyone else who isn't "northern European white" and goes so far as to call for their genocide, then that person should be ostracized from society and considered persona non grata.

They can believe what they want, but no one should give them any attention.

Charlie Kirk hated no one. He wanted a better country for all Americans and would never have supported people like Fuentes or that Hitler praising fake Lutheran "pastor" Mahler.

This is not what Fuentes does. The dude is part Mexican and Italian. He certainly has not called for genocide.
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shack009 said:

SquirrellyDan said:

Stone Choir said:

SquirrellyDan said:

Stone Choir said:

titan said:


There is nothing "canned talking points in this question" -- I daresay maybe haven't heard it that way.

If race is the factor, why does there appear to be an entire block that doesn't behave that way? I don't see anyone asking the question and its pretty pertinent in this abyss nearing.


1/3 of all black men will have a felony in their life and that's just what gets arrested, a lot of these crimes go unreported.

Race is and always will be the primary factor, it's why crime stats matchup globally by race no matter the nation. Titan I have been over this very topic with you for years now. I was a different poster back then but we've covered this same topic dozens of times previously. I've posted endless amounts of data to you. How could you possibly have forgotten it all?

I've had over 50 accounts here that have all been permabanned for posting about these things. We've had numerous conversations over the exact same issue.


It's not race it's culture. Ben Shapiro has some great talks about this.


Shapiro knows the truth, he's just gaslighting you.



The average black IQ is one standard deviation lower than white IQ.



Black violent crime rates were the same in 1956 as they are now despite having much higher rates of marriage. It's not a culture thing, this is just how they are. You cannot blame this on culture because this was prior to civil rights and the severe influence of Marxism.


Ben Shapiro is gaslighting me? OK. Just keep pushing what you're pushing you seem to be all in, good for you.


"It isn't race, it's culture" is something people love telling themselves because it makes them feel good. It's the kind of thing an average intelligence person says and thinks it sounds intelligent. It also gives people some hope, because if it's cultural, then the problem can be fixed.

It's not cultural. It's genetic. Different races have different genetics. Sub Saharan Africa sucks because sub Saharan Africans live there. White countries are industrialized and better places to live because of white people.

Everybody knows this deep down. Only some are willing to say it.


So, can i assume a "groyper" is then just a person who will voice above and your previous genetics comments is what most conservatives actually think (assuming that is true)? Is that the definition?

And what is a "frens"?
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Nick is attacked pretty bad, some of the claims I've heard about him seem unreal. So rather than listen to what others say about him I recently decided to give him a listen. In his words, not through a lens that might have a bias. I've got to say. I don't agree with everything he says. But he's very smart and has a lot of fair analysis and insights. Pretty funny guy too. He does promote Jesus Christ as the ONLY way to heaven as well.

Just my 2 cents.
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nortex97 said:


Love it. This is the way.


How do you know Nick Fuentes is a bad faith actor? Because Charlie kirk said so.

Charlie Kirk was pro debate until it came to Nick Fuentes. He wouldn't debate him because he didn't want to acknowledge that his beliefs had legitimacy. Talking about race and the JQ is a great way to get kicked off YouTube and lose sponsors.
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shack009 said:

nortex97 said:


Love it. This is the way.


How do you know Nick Fuentes is a bad faith actor? Because Charlie kirk said so.

Charlie Kirk was pro debate until it came to Nick Fuentes. He wouldn't debate him because he didn't want to acknowledge that his beliefs had legitimacy. Talking about race and the JQ is a great way to get kicked off YouTube and lose sponsors.


This was a reason I wanted to give Nick a listen. Charlie Kirk refused to debate him. This is publicly known. Still I like both of them as a believer. Charlie Kirk however had probably 10x the reach of Nick.
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nortex97 said:


Love it. This is the way.

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Nick Fuentes is a psyop. Hope that helps.

He's put out there to make the right look crazy. He has a history of attacking moderate voices on the right. He drags down good candidates on the right by endorsing them. Do you think the meeting with Trump during the campaig was an accident?

100% psyop


 
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