*****March Madness - Other games - Official Thread*****

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Such bull****
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That's amazing...holy ****, what a shot and what a meltdown by Duke.
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UCONN JEEEEEEZ
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What was Duke doing?!?!?

Heck of a shot by UConn kid tho!
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Stupid stupid stupid
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Why didn't the Duke guy just hold onto the ball?! So dumb
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pinche gringo said:

Such bull****


Duke fan or bracket $$ riding on it?
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dtownAg14 said:

Why didn't the Duke guy just hold onto the ball?! So dumb


So. Much. This.
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The Kraken said:

pinche gringo said:

Such bull****


Duke fan or bracket $$ riding on it?


Duke fan and I ****ing hate uconn
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How do you F that up?
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Oh well, go Illinoslavia!
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Unbelievable! UConn was toast!
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All Duke had to do was just hold onto the ball to run out the clock. UConn recovered a deflected pass, and Braylon Mullins made the game-winning 3-pointer to complete UConn's 19-point comeback, 6th largest in NCAA tournament history. After Duke led UConn 44-25 with 3:24 left in the first half, UConn outscored Duke 48-28 during the rest of the game, including 44-28 in the second half to defeat Duke 73-72 for their 8th Final Four appearance, all since 1999. It's even crazier how UConn's only other lead was a 2-0 lead with 18:47 left in the first half.

In contrast, Duke blew a 14+ point lead in the 2nd half of an NCAA tournament game for the second straight year. Duke led Houston by 14 points with 8:17 left before losing 70-67 to Houston in the final four on 4/5/2025. They repeated that collapse today. I had picked Duke to win it all, but UConn's massive comeback win ended my streak of nailing the national champion for the 3rd straight year. There will be two No. 1 seeds, one No. 2 seed, and one No. 3 seed in the final four.
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That Duke loss just cost me a clinch of $700 (zero path to victory now) in one bracket challenge and I couldn't care less. What a game!
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That killed my bracket.

I was maybe about to be in the top 1,000 overall brackets on the entire ESPN.com competition if Duke didn't wet the bed. I was 1,628 going into the game.
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UConn owns Duke. Always has.
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Great March Madness moment, but I hate that Hurley and UCONN benefitted from it.
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Complete Idiot said:

Great March Madness moment, but I hate that Hurley and UCONN benefitted from it.


Yeah

I just don't like that guy

But I don't like duke either





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I am so happy for UConn. So, so awesome. Dad is smiling in his grave right now.
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dtownAg14 said:

Why didn't the Duke guy just hold onto the ball?! So dumb


Why does everybody keep saying this? They had a 2 on zero break. The pass was the 100% correct play to make. You get a dunk, don't have to make foul shots. Game over. You just hold it, and you still have to make 2 FT with plenty of time left. He just screwed up the pass. But mostly, let's give UConn credit.

With a 3 point lead or a 1 point lead you hold, but up 2, I make that pass every time.
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94chem said:

dtownAg14 said:

Why didn't the Duke guy just hold onto the ball?! So dumb


Why does everybody keep saying this? They had a 2 on zero break. The pass was the 100% correct play to make. You get a dunk, don't have to make foul shots. Game over. You just hold it, and you still have to make 2 FT with plenty of time left. He just screwed up the pass. But mostly, let's give UConn credit.

With a 3 point lead or a 1 point lead you hold, but up 2, I make that pass every time.


Even making 1 free throw ensures you a win or OT. Instead, he played into the uconn trap.
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The play wasn't bad at all, he just made a bad pass. Throw that 6" higher and game is over.
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94chem said:

dtownAg14 said:

Why didn't the Duke guy just hold onto the ball?! So dumb


Why does everybody keep saying this? They had a 2 on zero break. The pass was the 100% correct play to make. You get a dunk, don't have to make foul shots. Game over. You just hold it, and you still have to make 2 FT with plenty of time left. He just screwed up the pass. But mostly, let's give UConn credit.

With a 3 point lead or a 1 point lead you hold, but up 2, I make that pass every time.


The 2 on 0 break, as you put it, was the problem, not the solution. At least, it was here. Obviously, forget the backcourt, since there were only 10 seconds left and a called BC violation would be simultaneous with the game clock. Thus, no violation to worry about. In ANY situation involving moving the ball, you NEVER want to pass it back towards your opponent's basket. But since his Duke teammates were either back toward UConn's basket or were a LONG way away from the guy with the ball, the Duke player's passing options were between not good and worse. 5 on 3 is a HELL of an advantage in college ball, especially by a team as good as UConn. It isn't a surprise the pass was tipped and intercepted.

Remember, UConn could foul (if you watch the replays, it doesn't appear they're going for the foul but for the ball) in the front court as well as the backcourt. So your scoring scenario is moot. Duke failed here by having two players leave the area where a good pass could have been made toward their own basket, regardless of whether they were still in the backcourt or just inside the division line. The pass that you're speaking of, if you watch the replay closely, was actually LESS likely than what happened given the pressure UConn was putting on Duke in the backcourt.

So yes, Duke HOLDING the ball would have been better than a pass in that situation. Had there not been 2 UConn guys on that Duke passer, or 5 on 3 in the backcourt in general, you'd probably be right. UConn may have made a great play, but Duke has itself to blame here.
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Hurley's mom lip reading at 1:55



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94chem said:

dtownAg14 said:

Why didn't the Duke guy just hold onto the ball?! So dumb


Why does everybody keep saying this? They had a 2 on zero break. The pass was the 100% correct play to make. You get a dunk, don't have to make foul shots. Game over. You just hold it, and you still have to make 2 FT with plenty of time left. He just screwed up the pass. But mostly, let's give UConn credit.

With a 3 point lead or a 1 point lead you hold, but up 2, I make that pass every time.

Maybe bc he lost Duke the game.
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Good point. His post was even longer than MovieTone News a few above.
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I just remember saying after the UConn player missed the first free throw. Only way Duke loses this one is if they do something stupid.

Well a few seconds later.
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LB12Diamond said:

I just remember saying after the UConn player missed the first free throw. Only way Duke loses this one is if they do something stupid.

Well a few seconds later.


Watch the play from the baseline. All Boozer had to do was a ball fake. Both defenders were airborne. He tried to pass without even looking. One simple ball fake and he could have held another 1.5 seconds to draw the foul, or simply rolled it ahead for a dunk or clock kill.

And, what's also crazy is that Hurley is acting like some genius. UConn still had a timeout. They could have inbounded in the front court with over 5 seconds left and gotten a way better look. UConn's execution after the turn-over was pretty bad. They had a 5 on 3 and that's the best shot they got? Oh well.
94chem,
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94chem said:

dtownAg14 said:

Why didn't the Duke guy just hold onto the ball?! So dumb


Why does everybody keep saying this? They had a 2 on zero break. The pass was the 100% correct play to make. You get a dunk, don't have to make foul shots. Game over. You just hold it, and you still have to make 2 FT with plenty of time left. He just screwed up the pass. But mostly, let's give UConn credit.

With a 3 point lead or a 1 point lead you hold, but up 2, I make that pass every time.

I've tried but can't make sense of this. With any lead under 10 seconds you hold the ball. I don't understand your special exception for a 2 point lead that doesn't apply to a 1 or 3 point lead.
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Do you understand why you don't score in football when you're up 1? Or why you do when you're up 2? Same logic.

Also, if I'm on defense up 1 and need a stop, I'm defending the 3 point line like crazy.
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Scotts Tot
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94chem said:

Do you understand why you don't score in football when you're up 1? Or why you do when you're up 2? Same logic.

Also, if I'm on defense up 1 and need a stop, I'm defending the 3 point line like crazy.

You would have to flesh out this football hypothetical for me to understand what you're saying.

In the Duke scenario, if the other team has to score to beat you, you would rather take the 70+% chance to extend your lead at the line AND make them start their possession in their backcourt, regardless of the margin. The risk of turning the ball over in your own backcourt while trying to break a press with a 2 point lead is ginormous, which is why no one ever does that. You hold, get fouled, and shoot the FTs. Worst case scenario is you miss the front end, and you're still probably better off than the turnover in your backcourt.
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I had trouble figuring out why UConn spent 17 seconds dribbling around looking for a shot when they had the ball down 3 with 27 seconds left. Duke bailed them out by fouling at the 10 second mark. I really thought UConn blew it at that point, Hurley got lucky there with Boozer's bad pass.
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This is not correct. If you are up 2, a layup wins the game for you. Thats why you typically will make a pass up court for a wide open dunk. If you are up 1, you may not do that bc the dunk would not win the game for you. And if you are up 3, you may or may not do it (bc you assume you could at least make one free throw which would also win the game for you.

Sure, there's a .1% chance that it goes all wrong and you lose like Duke did if you try for the wide open dunk. But it's generally still worth trying for it in my opinion. There was literally no one on the other side.

Edit to add: I agree with your point if it's not the situation where there is a player wide open for a dunk on the other end. That's the situation we are talking about here. There is no one within 40 feet of them. Otherwise, I agree you don't try and beat the press to score.
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The pass attempt sucks. It doesn't mean that passing ahead is the wrong play.
 
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