*****March Madness - Other games - Official Thread*****

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mavsfan4ever said:

This is not correct. If you are up 2, a layup wins the game for you. Thats why you typically will make a pass up court for a wide open dunk. If you are up 1, you may not do that bc the dunk would not win the game for you. And if you are up 3, you may or may not do it (bc you assume you could at least make one free throw which would also win the game for you.

Sure, there's a .1% chance that it goes all wrong and you lose like Duke did if you try for the wide open dunk. But it's generally still worth trying for it in my opinion. There was literally no one on the other side.

Edit to add: I agree with your point if it's not the situation where there is a player wide open for a dunk on the other end. That's the situation we are talking about here. There is no one within 40 feet of them. Otherwise, I agree you don't try and beat the press to score.

You and the other guy are saying there was a wide open dunk, as if the 2 guys in the passer's face didn't exist. The teammates weren't wide open because the pass was heavily defended. UConn dedicated all 5 players to a desperation press and Duke had 2 guys bail to the front court, so it was essentially a 3 on 5 press break, and highly risky to advance the ball.

Scheyer himself said they should have just secured the ball and held on…
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Guards make that play 99 times out of 100. I'm not advocating for doing what Boozer did. He essentially threw the ball without even faking or looking where he was throwing it. But when you have a guard relatively open in the middle of the floor (he was open when he caught it and then two guys were running towards him from the other end) and no defenders past half court, I'm going to trust my guard to attempt to get the ball ahead for an easy dunk. The throw ahead for an easy dunk is typically easier than throwing it or risking a steal by just standing there with multiple defenders coming to you.

That doesn't mean go crazy with a risky pass because you obviously don't have to get the dunk. But the vast majority of the time that is a very simple pass and simple dunk to win the game. A simple pump fake and then throwing the ball low gets the ball down the court. And if they foul him while he's doing that, then that's fine too.
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I agree with you. I can't even count the # of times I've seen an end of game dunk in this scenario. Unfortunately for Duke, this wasn't one of those times.
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Speaking of a post you wish you could take back...
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The Collective said:

Speaking of a post you wish you could take back...


There's no more amusing thing in the world than irony.
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Bonfired said:

That's amazing...holy ****, what a shot and what a meltdown by Duke.

It was glorious. Duke getting Laettner'd by UConn, after holding a 19 point lead. Absolutely love it and when the shot dropped I let out a "holy f--king s--t!" Unbelievable finish.
People think I'm an idiot or something, because all I do is cut lawns for a living.
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I wish Arizona and Michigan were on different sides of the bracket.
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UConn fans get one last chance to not let Karaban's entire career go by without getting the nickname 'Dodge'
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mavsfan4ever said:

Guards make that play 99 times out of 100. I'm not advocating for doing what Boozer did. He essentially threw the ball without even faking or looking where he was throwing it. But when you have a guard relatively open in the middle of the floor (he was open when he caught it and then two guys were running towards him from the other end) and no defenders past half court, I'm going to trust my guard to attempt to get the ball ahead for an easy dunk. The throw ahead for an easy dunk is typically easier than throwing it or risking a steal by just standing there with multiple defenders coming to you.

That doesn't mean go crazy with a risky pass because you obviously don't have to get the dunk. But the vast majority of the time that is a very simple pass and simple dunk to win the game. A simple pump fake and then throwing the ball low gets the ball down the court. And if they foul him while he's doing that, then that's fine too.


Thanks for saving me from having to write all this. Just basketball court sense 101.
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Duke said to UNC, "Hold my beer." Two schools 8 miles apart, each blowing 19 point leads. That's like 4.7 points per mile.
94chem,
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carl spacklers hat said:

Bonfired said:

That's amazing...holy ****, what a shot and what a meltdown by Duke.

It was glorious. Duke getting Laettner'd by UConn, after holding a 19 point lead. Absolutely love it and when the shot dropped I let out a "holy f--king s--t!" Unbelievable finish.


Our pastor is a sip who did his divinity degree at Duke. I can't tell you how many times he's mentioned that he went to Duke. He even worked the fact that he went to Duke into his sermon Sunday. Also, if you you didn't know, he went to Duke.

I saw the the highlight from the end of the have she couldn't stop laughing. I feel a little bad because he's a pretty nice guy, even if he's exactly the kind of person you'd expect to graduate from both tu and Duke, but still... **** Duke.
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I have a good friend who's a bammer, a dookie, and a lawyer. I think he's been in rehab several times for being innately insufferable.
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We need a post player similar to Reed jr from UConn
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romanagg11 said:

We need a post player similar to Reed jr from UConn


Says almost everyone in college basketball. Guy is an absolute beast.
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Pound the Rock said:

romanagg11 said:

We need a post player similar to Reed jr from UConn


Says almost everyone in college basketball. Guy is an absolute beast.


We need a guy like Reed from UCONN and a guy like Wagler from Illinois and a guy like Lendeborg from Michigan and a guy like Peat from Arizona.

Then we'd be really good.
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I hate the officiating in this 1st game
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Man, Illinois is just better than UConn, but that UConn magic is strong.
94chem,
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Hurley has the tournament bug in him for sure.
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Bunk Moreland said:

Hurley has the tournament bug in him for sure.


UConn is 12-1, soon 13-1?, in the final 4. As a Tar Heel, I find that disgusting.
94chem,
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These teams are making the best out of an ugly game
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94chem said:

Man, Illinois is just better than UConn, but that UConn magic is strong.


I dunno….I don't think they're better.
I think they play different, really physical, seek out contact on offense, and strong enough to finish well.

Against UConn though, they had to deal with a big that was more physical and just better than their own.
Rest of team didn't get to bully as much as they usually do, because UConn was able to hold their own.

UConn themselves was very aggressive on D, and crashed boards just as hard.
On offense, was getting better looks too.

I thought the better team won.
I also think that both would lose to whoever wins Game #2 today
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Wtf was that concert in between games? Get the **** on with it. What are we doing?
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TxAg76 said:

94chem said:

Man, Illinois is just better than UConn, but that UConn magic is strong.


I dunno….I don't think they're better.
I think they play different, really physical, seek out contact on offense, and strong enough to finish well.

Against UConn though, they had to deal with a big that was more physical and just better than their own.
Rest of team didn't get to bully as much as they usually do, because UConn was able to hold their own.

UConn themselves was very aggressive on D, and crashed boards just as hard.
On offense, was getting better looks too.

I thought the better team won.
I also think that both would lose to whoever wins Game #2 today

I think a mental advantage for whoever wins this game is that it will be easier to get ramped back up for UConn...6-time champion, won a couple very recently and they are harder to kill than kudzu. They'll of course be excited to play for a national title and the winning team would have said all the right things if they were playing Illinois, but the Illini don't have that championship pedigree that UConn has.

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UNC grad here pretty excited to see Cadeau take the 2 for one there.
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94chem said:

UNC grad here pretty excited to see Cadeau take the 2 for one there.


Cadeau is 2-14 from the field and his team leads by 16. He just throws it off the backboard and waits for the weak side OReb.
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Arizona's backcourt has to start contributing something other than turnovers and missed shots. AZ is not used to shooting a lot of 3's, but they may have to unless they can make a run early in the second half and get it to a manageable margin.
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Lendeborg needs to sit immediately. He looks awful
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Michigan is soo massive
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Gigemags382 said:

Lendeborg needs to sit immediately. He looks awful

Well he can still shoot I guess haha. But the guy can't move. Just seems like they should stick with what was working the 1st half instead of playing with 4.5 players.
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Gigemags382 said:

Gigemags382 said:

Lendeborg needs to sit immediately. He looks awful

Well he can still shoot I guess haha. But the guy can't move. Just seems like they should stick with what was working the 1st half instead of playing with 4.5 players.

I guess I'll just sit down
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I've been waiting for the Tommy Lloyd game all year and he saved it for tonight. They've performed poorly but he's such a mediocre game coach.
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jja79 said:

I've been waiting for the Tommy Lloyd game all year and he saved it for tonight. They've performed poorly but he's such a mediocre game coach.

Arizona looks like they're unraveling and he doesn't appear to have any answers.
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Michigan basically has a completely different team than the one that came back from a 10 point deficit in the second half against us last year. And they are cruising into the title game.

Must be nice to have all the luck. Or the best coach. Not sure which.
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Good coach and lots of $$$
 
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