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I meant that Kim leaves with the money. Or maybe she even gives most of it to a charity or something. Either way, I definitely don't think Jimmy gives it to her.
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ramblin_ag02 said:

My Kim prediction: they pull off the con and get the Sandpiper money. She empties the joint account and disappears. The student becomes the master, and Jimmy is left emotionally, morally and financially bankrupt.
You may be on to something here. I could see that happen.

You never really know how deep it went when Jimmy embarrassed her in the Mesa Verde negotiations with his crazy ass stunt.

Its more of a gut punch to think all this might be some demented plan to get back at Jimmy.

Would certainly explain the 'lets get married' idea, which was her idea.

Maybe Jimmy lets her walk with the money when she threatens to tell what she knows to the cartel? Maybe thats her real goal with digging through all the public defender files. Get some sort of contact with the cartel of her own that she can use in furtherance of her scheme.

In any event, we got a long time to think about it.
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I should have clarified that your post made me think of what I wrote as a separate thought.
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To me, what makes the most sense, is that she is essentially having a breakdown. She doesnt have any dastardly plan or grand scheme.
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:



Maybe Jimmy lets her walk with the money when she threatens to tell what she knows to the cartel? Maybe thats her real goal with digging through all the public defender files. Get some sort of contact with the cartel of her own that she can use in furtherance of her scheme.

In any event, we got a long time to think about it.
Really, really good point in the digging. A lot like the Mesa Verde picture stuff, she always has some underlying reason for what she does.

Another fine point bolded. The wait is going to suuuuuuuuuuuck.
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The finale quietly answered the most burning question this season: why is Howard still on the show?
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PatAg said:

To me, what makes the most sense, is that she is essentially having a breakdown. She doesnt have any dastardly plan or grand scheme.
No offense but that would be lame as hell if that's what the writers end up with.
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

ramblin_ag02 said:

My Kim prediction: they pull off the con and get the Sandpiper money. She empties the joint account and disappears. The student becomes the master, and Jimmy is left emotionally, morally and financially bankrupt.
You may be on to something here. I could see that happen.

You never really know how deep it went when Jimmy embarrassed her in the Mesa Verde negotiations with his crazy ass stunt.

Its more of a gut punch to think all this might be some demented plan to get back at Jimmy.

Would certainly explain the 'lets get married' idea, which was her idea.

Maybe Jimmy lets her walk with the money when she threatens to tell what she knows to the cartel? Maybe thats her real goal with digging through all the public defender files. Get some sort of contact with the cartel of her own that she can use in furtherance of her scheme.

In any event, we got a long time to think about it.
This would also explain Kim's comment of "but you won't do it again, Jimmy".

Certainly Kim is not so blinded, and knows that Jimmy will be Jimmy. Think of it as her mocking Jimmy, and playing along with him until she gets the payoff money.
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Bobcat06 said:

The finale quietly answered the most burning question this season: why is Howard still on the show?
Howard's line to Kim about Chuck knowing who Jimmy really was...was worth it to keep him on the show payroll imo.
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My prediction with what would happen with Lalo and Nacho was way off.

We all assumed some major character would bite the dust and were wrong. Now we are teed up for an epic showdown. A lot of folks gonna be ****ting bricks when word leaks that Lalos body was not found among the dead at the compound.
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Any chance Kim and Lalo take off together somewhere, or is he officially dead for BB? (I'm only 4 eps into BB)
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Would you say Kim is more like Walter White or more of a Jesse? On the flip note, who is Saul more like?

To me Kim is following the steps of Walter and Saul Jesse. This is really becoming Breaking Kim but I hope she doesn't have the same fate as Walter.
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Mr. White said:

Any chance Kim and Lalo take off together somewhere, or is he officially dead for BB? (I'm only 4 eps into BB)
That would be in - ****ing - sane. Some real Charles Manson ***** Lalo does have the charm, thats for sure.

I could see Kim getting the tingles for Lalo and going off the rails.

Good call.
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I too thought she was looking for specific files - maybe cartel related, maybe to help out Saul, maybe to keep in her back pocket in case she needs leverage later down the road.

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And maybe Gillian will use the CGI - The Irishman style - to help Mike look a tad younger in season 6!
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Man I hope Kim doesn't screw Jimmy over. I want to see her be ok.
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johnnyblaze36 said:

PatAg said:

To me, what makes the most sense, is that she is essentially having a breakdown. She doesnt have any dastardly plan or grand scheme.
No offense but that would be lame as hell if that's what the writers end up with.
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I dont mean "she is going crazy", just that she is breaking down. She is acting more and more erratically every episode.
She has also almost immediately regretted every bold/rash choice she has made, and each one is getting progressively worse.
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Kim could be gettin' baby rabies and be craving the seed of alpha male Lalo.
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PatAg said:

johnnyblaze36 said:

PatAg said:

To me, what makes the most sense, is that she is essentially having a breakdown. She doesnt have any dastardly plan or grand scheme.
No offense but that would be lame as hell if that's what the writers end up with.
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I dont mean "she is going crazy", just that she is breaking down. She is acting more and more erratically every episode.
She has also almost immediately regretted every bold/rash choice she has made, and each one is getting progressively worse.

Regretful? That hasn't played at all.
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She has also almost immediately regretted every bold/rash choice she has made, and each one is getting progressively worse.


You think so?

I disagree. Kim has shown that she stands behind her actions and choices. She has shown very strong conviction when questioned.

She may very well be acting erratic but by her POV she's right and she's not afraid to stand up for herself.

I don't think she's regretted one choice she's made.
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Pat = Howard Hamlin trying to mansplain Kim's actions.
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Mr.Bond said:

Still pissed we gotta wait a year to see gene handle the taxi driver
A year? We should be so lucky. Gonna be closer to 2, probably.
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Recalling the earlier Kim flashback, I just had a thought. They showed that young Kim was unwilling to go on a dangerous ride with her mom, didn't seem like a risk taker. I focused on the "you never listen Kim!" from her mom, but the thought she wouldn't ride with her drunk mom makes me wonder why she'd now "ride" along with someone with cartel ties. What was the point of that flashback? I don't really know but I'd think it was to give some insight into how Kim's behaviors were formed.

It's also possible that by refusing to ride with her mom that night it irrevocably damaged her relationship with her mom, and perhaps she now fears putting her foot down in a similar fashion and losing Jimmy - so just going along?


I am putting way too much effort into interpreting that scene, nevermind.

She grabbed that scam memory tequila cork from her office before pulling off this......scam?

Ill stop.
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Lalo is such a bad-ss!! Great great season.

Waiting is gonna suck!!!
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

Mr.Bond said:

Still pissed we gotta wait a year to see gene handle the taxi driver
A year? We should be so lucky. Gonna be closer to 2, probably.

They're already writing season 6. It will hinge on when they can start production.
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I really think Kim gets off on the thrill of the hustle. Jimmy has been at it his whole life, but Kim seems to be addicted to the thrill of it all.

Remember back when they were scamming people by the pool and the whol Ice Station Zebra & Associates scam? Kim had the time of her life doing that *****
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Are they meeting on Zoom?

We need to hack these meetings.
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

I really think Kim gets off on the thrill of the hustle. Jimmy has been at it his whole life, but Kim seems to be addicted to the thrill of it all.

Remember back when they were scamming people by the pool and the whol Ice Station Zebra & Associates scam? Kim had the time of her life doing that *****
Yes, she's gotten horny from the adventures, even from just role playing between Jimmy and herself in their condo this past season. I agree with you.

But the cartel thing scared her and she wants that to end, I believe that. I also think Jimmy either knows his cartel involvement can't end, even with Lalo dead, or maybe just that he doesn't want it to end and he doesn't want Kim exposed to that kind of risk. Kim had a legitimate emotional reaction to Jimmy's call from the desert, she isn't faking caring while playing out some "get back at him" scheme ( I don't think), and Jimmy had a legitimate emotional scene with Mike where he says "if anything were to happen to her....".
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Regarding season 6, it's planned to be 13 episodes, not 10, and was to be released in 2021. If Covid 19 stuff disrupts any of that, what a shame.
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I may have to go back and watch the episode, but didn't Gus say the hitmen/assassins were the best in the business? And didn't Lalo dispose of all 4 of them?

Lalo.....badass
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

I really think Kim gets off on the thrill of the hustle. Jimmy has been at it his whole life, but Kim seems to be addicted to the thrill of it all.

Remember back when they were scamming people by the pool and the whol Ice Station Zebra & Associates scam? Kim had the time of her life doing that *****
...and it turns her on. She got frisky roll playing how she would scam the Mesa Verde bossman and also plotting revenge on Howard.

Part of Kim's big arc this season has been based on the tension of what's compelled to do (Mesa Verde) vs what she wants to do (Pro-bono work). The finale showed that pro-bono work isn't "hitting her in the heart" anymore.

The next obvious step is for her is the realization that her heart true desire isn't pro-bono work but scamming the rich and powerful.
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bilbobag said:

Would you say Kim is more like Walter White or more of a Jesse? On the flip note, who is Saul more like?

To me Kim is following the steps of Walter and Saul Jesse. This is really becoming Breaking Kim but I hope she doesn't have the same fate as Walter.


I'd have to say of all the BB characters, Saul is most like Saul
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To answer your actual question, Id say they aren't like either.

Especially by this point in BB, I didn't really like Walter or Jesse. I'm sure some people did but I didn't care about what happened to them outside of the show still be interesting and hoping it was entertaining as a return on investment for watching.
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Fair point. Throwing darts at a dart board at this point
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I also think Jimmy either knows his cartel involvement can't end, even with Lalo dead, or maybe just that he doesn't want it to end

This brings up another interesting subplot

In BB Saul isn't a cartel lawyer correct? So somehow he does get out from under them. That would also have to happen in the final season.
 
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