It seems to me a lot of hollywood types are mad simply because it makes Hollywood look bad.

I don't really think they can skip presenting the award, because it's not fair to the other nominees. However, once Smith won, they should have just said he would be unable to accept his award at this time, and cut to commercial. Either that, or they should have just dropped his award and walked off the stage.

I have sympathy for the Academy. It was a completely unexpected **** show that was 100% Will Smith's doing. They are trying to run a show being watched by nearly 20 million people and are trying to keep it from being disrupted further. Everyone can play tough guy Monday Morning QB all day long, but that's a crazy delicate situation they had on their hands and a very short time to make a decision. Physically dragging a black actor (the one about to win best actor for goodness sake) out of the award show was something they had to be hoping to avoid. Especially after the racial landmines they've been negotiating in recent years

Really haven't cared much about the takes from "Hollywood", after the event. I've more been interested in the takes of real comedians. Same group who has been told the last several years they can't talk about certain things, and now no one does anything about a Hollywood elite physically assaulting one for a mild joke.

I say, invite Will and Jada back next year, but let Joe Rogan host. Tell him he has to do a 5 minute roast on both of them, and to go in hard.

Now that's a show I would watch.

Appreciated Spade and Carvey's take. First time I've heard someone make the point they are making:

It is really amazing how well CR handled himself in that delicate of a situation. It could have escalated very quickly had he not shown professionalism in a moment of shock.

So far he's handled it the way you should handle it. I've been impressed by his maturity. Too many folks in the public eye try to race out ahead of the cameras and I think he's been smart with this.

A fight broke out at the Kraken game and they played the Fresh Prince theme song during it 😂😂😂 pic.twitter.com/fXghzguDhF

— Sean Larson (@SEA_larson) March 31, 2022

DannyDuberstein said:

---

I have sympathy for the Academy. It was a completely unexpected **** show that was 100% Will Smith's doing. They are trying to run a show being watched by nearly 20 million people and are trying to keep it from being disrupted further. Everyone can play tough guy Monday Morning QB all day long, but that's a crazy delicate situation they had on their hands and a very short time to make a decision. Physically dragging a black actor (the one about to win best actor for goodness sake) out of the award show was something they had to be hoping to avoid. Especially after the racial landmines they've been negotiating in recent years

---

this is a really good point...i'm sure they prepare for all kinds of mishaps and things that could go wrong with that production, but the best actor frontrunner slapping a presenter on stage is probably not something they have a protocol to address.

I think this whole thing is great. That the cancer of Hollywood is just eating itself up and that Will Smith, after all that, won it for playing 'King Richard.' And the applause! It couldn't be more appropriate.

Rock had his first stand-up show last night since the Oscars, and after walking out on stage, he supposedly got like a 3 minute standing ovation. His first line .... "So, how was your weekend ?"

Awesome !!

DannyDuberstein said:

---

Right. We've all had the benefit of a few days to ponder what exactly happened and decide what is most logical. When this first happened, there was also more support for Smith (albeit still a minority) that has pretty much 100% shifted to Rock now. I'm not sure what their approach was on asking/telling him to leave. I doubt it was as firm as it needed to be. But I also find it very hard to blame them for avoiding a 2nd physical altercation with the soon-to-be best actor (and again, Black actor in the context of all the heat they've been navigating thru on that front) in the middle of their show. Smith created a helluva mess for them

---

what's crazy is that if Will, once calmed down, had sought out Chris and given a sincere apology and then showed actual, sincere remorse and embarrassment during his acceptance speech, i'm not sure we need anything else from him.

instead, we saw him refuse to leave, give an almost defiant acceptance speech and then go out partying like it was no big deal. so yeah, that's not the mindset of someone who likely would've reacted well to being forcibly removed from the theater.

TCTTS said:

---

Maybe so. But the far more damaging optics are what ultimately transpired... hundreds of Academy members and Hollywood peeps standing and applauding Smith after he assaulted a guy on stage, to whom he arrogantly didn't apologize to during his acceptance speech, for the award he received less than an hour after the incident. All on national TV, in front of 15 million horrified fans, who now think less of the Academy/Hollywood than many of them already did.

---

The incompetent Academy execs did us all a favor by allowing that to transpire. You think it's just the Academy that needs a reset, but the real problem is with all of the people in the audience. If the Academy execs had done their job better, we would have been robbed of that collective Hollywood arse reveal.

DTP02 said:

---

TCTTS said:

---

Maybe so. But the far more damaging optics are what ultimately transpired... hundreds of Academy members and Hollywood peeps standing and applauding Smith after he assaulted a guy on stage, to whom he arrogantly didn't apologize to during his acceptance speech, for the award he received less than an hour after the incident. All on national TV, in front of 15 million horrified fans, who now think less of the Academy/Hollywood than many of them already did.

---

The incompetent Academy execs did us all a favor by allowing that to transpire. You think it's just the Academy that needs a reset, but the real problem is with all of the people in the audience. If the Academy execs had done their job better, we would have been robbed of that collective Hollywood arse reveal.

---

I don't know that I would read that much into the standing ovation. While I agree it looks bad, I suspect it was mainly people doing what's expected when someone wins the Oscar for best actor and really not knowing how else to react. Not sure anyone did any moral calculations before deciding whether to stand or not.

JCA1 said:

---

DTP02 said:

---

TCTTS said:

---

Maybe so. But the far more damaging optics are what ultimately transpired... hundreds of Academy members and Hollywood peeps standing and applauding Smith after he assaulted a guy on stage, to whom he arrogantly didn't apologize to during his acceptance speech, for the award he received less than an hour after the incident. All on national TV, in front of 15 million horrified fans, who now think less of the Academy/Hollywood than many of them already did.

---

The incompetent Academy execs did us all a favor by allowing that to transpire. You think it's just the Academy that needs a reset, but the real problem is with all of the people in the audience. If the Academy execs had done their job better, we would have been robbed of that collective Hollywood arse reveal.

---

I don't know that I would read that much into the standing ovation. While I agree it looks bad, I suspect it was mainly people doing what's expected when someone wins the Oscar for best actor and really not knowing how else to react. Not sure anyone did any moral calculations before deciding whether to stand or not.

---

It's too bad they didn't have time to pass out a script telling them what to do that would make them look wise, but I don't see how anyone in the audience wouldn't have connected their applause with the slap. And they applauded after his acceptance speech, the one where he didn't apologize to the guy he actually attacked. I really don't see how anyone applauding at that moment, given the events that had transpired shortly before, wouldn't have considered that their applause was putting their stamp of approval on Smith's actions and unrepentant attitude.

I mean, Chris Rock is still at the site somewhere and you're applauding the guy who attacked him for a tame joke, and who made a mockery of the proceedings, while the dude's face was still stinging. You shouldn't need someone to tell you not to wholeheartedly endorse the bully.

JCA1 said:

---

DTP02 said:

---

TCTTS said:

---

Maybe so. But the far more damaging optics are what ultimately transpired... hundreds of Academy members and Hollywood peeps standing and applauding Smith after he assaulted a guy on stage, to whom he arrogantly didn't apologize to during his acceptance speech, for the award he received less than an hour after the incident. All on national TV, in front of 15 million horrified fans, who now think less of the Academy/Hollywood than many of them already did.

---

The incompetent Academy execs did us all a favor by allowing that to transpire. You think it's just the Academy that needs a reset, but the real problem is with all of the people in the audience. If the Academy execs had done their job better, we would have been robbed of that collective Hollywood arse reveal.

---

I don't know that I would read that much into the standing ovation. While I agree it looks bad, I suspect it was mainly people doing what's expected when someone wins the Oscar for best actor and really not knowing how else to react. Not sure anyone did any moral calculations before deciding whether to stand or not.

---

I'm not sure they ever do moral calculations