I saw her opening statements about the WC….and Parkland doctors…it was more than a little cringeworthy (all I could do is shake my head)…..obviously, like you mentioned earlier, she hasn't had the time to delve beneath the surface of JFK, that takes years and years. I would also like a fair and balanced exploration of it all, but it seems like perhaps they are simply out to discredit the lone nut theory. She does sound better prepared in this link I'm providing with Morley last week. I know we've talked about Morley believing in a "conspiracy" and cover up, while not picking a particular scenario, but personally I believe he is extremely knowledgeable on the subject and wants the truth, wherever that might lead. In my opinion, it would take years for this Task Force to unravel JFK, not to mention all the other items on their

No question, Morley is one of the most knowledgable people in the JFK-sphere. I've posted his links on this thread several times. I think it makes sense to utilize his vast knowledge. But he and Oliver Stone probably shouldn't be your only or primary sources.

Anyone that has done a modicum of reading and research on the JFK Assassination knows who Morley is.

Morley is supposed to speak first to the Task Force on April 1…..personally I haven't seen anything about Oliver Stone speaking, just that she mentioned he "saw" the NBC video of Oswald outside the TSBD…which I have zero faith in its validity. I "thought" I read somewhere where Paul Landis might be speaking….In addition, I have read that it will be open to the public and be live streamed. If you watch the video, she's only in the first 10 minutes….but the whole thing is actually pretty good.
Here is the full list of the Task Force Committee…..it doesn't instill my faith that anything will come out of it!

https://oversight.house.gov/subcommittee/task-force-on-the-declassification-of-federal-secrets/

Thanks for posting that video of Morley. I was not familiar with his work, but find we share the same point of view, and I look forward to his testimony on Tuesday.

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Luna probably thinks the Jimmy Darnell film is brand new

They are probably going with the long since debunked conspiracy theory that Billy Lovelady is LHO.

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Morley confirming what I said yesterday.

Gerald’s right about this film.. it is not new… It is not definitive… And it is not particularly important to most JFK researchers …..none of my beliefs about the causes of the assassination are based on this piece of film. https://t.co/8nJ0CzZvch

— Jefferson Morley (@jeffersonmorley) March 30, 2025

Agreed….Luna is constantly "shooting from the hip" when she gets any information that strays from the official story and then seems to just run with it without verifying the information. The one thing Morley can best contribute to the Task Force is informing them of documents known to exist but are still being withheld. Obviously he's also discovered that the CIA was well acquainted with LHO and had information that it should have relayed to FBI or SS before JKF turned from Houston on to Elm Street! In addition, it's clear that the CIA withheld information from the WC and definitely the HSCA. To what extent and why are good questions…I look forward to Tuesdays Task Force meeting….but with the random "throwing stuff at the wall" being done by the chair Luna doesn't give me any confidence in their findings!

Pretty remarkable how much national attention videos get that are easily refuted and meaningless. While other much more convincing videos get suppressed and ignored. Perhaps that's by design.

Still to this day I havent seen anyone use math as a basis to confirm COVID came from the one virus lab at the breakout epicenter, instead of randomly from one of the 20,000 wet markets across China, that just happened to be right next to the lab. It's mind boggling that such a convincing probabilistic arguement never surfaced at a national level. Perhaps, that's also by design.

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That's the part that the CIA has been do diligently keeping secret, since the admission would blow the lid off their entire operation, revealing how expansive and controlling it had become. That continues to the present day. This should be obvious to anyone with an open mind examining the trove of evidence pointing to it. That is the fact pattern this release of un-redacted documents should reveal. I expect Mory to address that during the hearing.

The irony is that LHO himself gave the first clue when he declared himself a "patsy" in his impromptu presser on the first night of his capture. That was his last exposure to the public, and a signal to any conspirators that he needed to be silenced. He was "a dead man walking" thereafter.

And yet, in spite of this obvious video evidence, the "testimony" of the Parkland attending physician(s), the evidence of Jackie scrambling to retrieve the skull fragment from the trunk lid which she clung to.... in spite of ALL of this evidence, doubters and detractors insist "there is absolutely NO evidence to contradict the official findings yada yada yada. It boggles the mind.

I agree completely.

They've released the list for Tuesday's hearing….and I was wrong…Oliver Stone is somehow on the list. I'm not sure what they want to hear from him that could make any difference…hopefully it lasts more than one day, or I really don't see the point. Stone being a witness won't help the validity of the Task Force.

DiEugenio is one of Oliver stones good friends that worked with him on Through the Looking Glass.

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DiEugenio is one of Oliver stones good friends that worked with him on Through the Looking Glass.

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Yes…I'm very familiar. Morley seems like the only "credible" witness on day one…

Been a minute since this has been discussed; any information that leads any additional credibility to the "Mortal Error"/Hickey argument? Or has this and will this always be debunked?

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Been a minute since this has been discussed; any information that leads any additional credibility to the "Mortal Error"/Hickey argument? Or has this and will this always be debunked?

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I think that one has been completely debunked! I also see people on the internet all the time claiming it was the driver….some people are easily duped.

Like this latest Luna "smoking gun" video, the claims about the driver or passenger shooting JFK from front, are laughably absurd. Those allegations are also used to marginlize any credible theory that challenges the LHO lone shooter narrative.

Assuming JFK was shot in his front right part of head, it would most likely have come from this area. Unlike with the snipers nest, there wasn't a fingerprinted rifle conveniently left behind. LHO had to have been incredibly competent to pull off both shots, and incredibly incompetent to leave finger prints.

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Been a minute since this has been discussed; any information that leads any additional credibility to the "Mortal Error"/Hickey argument? Or has this and will this always be debunked?

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BigHunter is right. Completely debunked. I debunked it earlier on this thread, but forget which page.

The publisher paid out a defamation claim for that book

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The rifle found did not have fingerprints on it when found. It wasn't until after LHO was dead and in a Fort Worth mortuary that his palm and fingerprints were applied by "agents" according to LHO's embalmer.

And here's a question that has occurred to me about the three cartridges found in the "snipers nest in the TSBD"...why would the shooter eject the third cartridge after firing if there wasn't an opportunity to even fire a fourth shot? Seems to me he more likely would have dropped the rifle after the last shot, leaving the third cartridge still in the chamber. Not a critical detail; just something that occurred to me as one very familiar with rifles and their use.

Forgot to mention that there WAS a fingerprint found on a box in the "sniper's nest" that was matched to Mac Wallace, a known associate of LBJ who was a convicted murderer and accused of multiple murders, including that of Billy Sol Estes investigator.

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Forgot to mention that there WAS a fingerprint found on a box in the "sniper's nest" that was matched to Mac Wallace, a known associate of LBJ who was a convicted murderer and accused of multiple murders, including that of Billy Sol Estes investigator.

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The most renowned JFK researcher that believes in a conspiracy to kill Kennedy is Jefferson Morley, who BigHunter and I have discussed the past few pages and is testifying tomorrow.

Jefferson Morley's own website considers this allegation debunked: https://jfkfacts.org/new-look-lbj-joan-mellen-debunks-mac-wallace-myth/

Here is Glen Samples debunking. Glen Samples wrote "The Men on the 6th Floor" which accused LBJ of doing this and Mac Wallace of being the shooter. Samples believes Wallace was one of the shooters that killed Kennedy, but says that fingerprint is not real: https://spartacus-educational.com/JFKbrownW.htm

It has been debunked by many conspiracy theorists. Even the ones that think LBJ and Mac Wallace were guilty of it.

Yeah, I used finger and hand interchangeably for prints. Correct, specifically a LHO palm print found on the rifle. LHO is skilled enough to be able to nail those 2 quick shots, but not skilled enough to realize the rifle serial number could be traced to him.

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The rifle found did not have fingerprints on it when found. It wasn't until after LHO was dead and in a Fort Worth mortuary that his palm and fingerprints were applied by "agents" according to LHO's embalmer.

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This is completely baseless. The fingerprint matches were done before Oswald was even dead by Dallas Police Officer Lt. John C. Day on November 22. LHO's prints were taken when he was arrested and booked on 11/22, as is standard procedure. Around 1145pm on 11/22, FBI Special Agent Vincent Drain took control of fingerprints, but the matches had already been made at that time. Day reported his preliminary findings to DPD Chief Jesse Curry and Homicide Captain Will Fritz. Lt Day informed Curry and Fritz of the matches prior to the FBI taking control of the evidence on 11/22.

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And here's a question that has occurred to me about the three cartridges found in the "snipers nest in the TSBD"...why would the shooter eject the third cartridge after firing if there wasn't an opportunity to even fire a fourth shot? Seems to me he more likely would have dropped the rifle after the last shot, leaving the third cartridge still in the chamber. Not a critical detail; just something that occurred to me as one very familiar with rifles and their use.

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Could just be habit. Fire and cycle. He also might start the cycling process before he realizes he has the kill shot and doesn't need to fire a 4th time. But good question.

It really is amazing how people will throw complete crap at the wall with no basis or evidence whatsoever.

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Yeah, I used finger and hand interchangeably for prints. Correct, specifically a LHO palm print found on the rifle. LHO is skilled enough to be able to nail those 2 quick shots, but not skilled enough to realize the rifle serial number could be traced to him.

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Nor does posting on this site/thread.

Just a healthy dose of confirmation bias

Yep, LHO was the sloppiest and most reliable assasin in history...there didn't need to be, and couldn't have been, another shooter.

But as I have posted, the video ballistics remain unanswered still to this day. They are countered only by bullet wound word of mouth.

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Yep, LHO was the sloppiest and most reliable assasin in history...there didn't need to be, and couldn't have been, another shooter.

But as I have posted, the video ballistics remain unanswered still to this day.

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I said nothing to assert that, just the fact that there are some really dumb people who can fire rifles fast and accurately. Nothing more, nothing less.

I agree that it's possible for a dumb person to shoot well. Was LHO dumb? He reportedly had above average intelligence. We are missing certain peices of the puzzle on his supposed 3rd kill shot, because he was conveniently murdered before trial. Maybe he wasn't smart or reliable, therefore backup was needed to ensure completion, while still nailing it on him. We just don't know....yet.

Regardless, redundancy would be ideal in a job this critical. A primary and backup shooter greatly reduces risk of missing, no one can deny that.

Glad you are open to the possibility of a frontal shooter, as the initial observed reaction of the ballistic science suggests.

#JFK #JFKassassination
Still waiting for someone to show us why JFK's ballistics were different. Perhaps the orignal wound photos will be released one day. pic.twitter.com/vScBZt1n6g

— Brake Tapper (@WokesideReggie) April 1, 2025

LOLOLOL

Morley: I think you’re confusing Roger Stone with Oliver Stone

Boebert: I may have misinterpreted that. I apologize pic.twitter.com/88qWWhUKkX

— Acyn (@Acyn) April 1, 2025

Scary that the people "tasked" with finding the truth (whatever that might be) have no idea what they are doing!! I mean, when someone says we are going to interview the Warren Commission members that certainly doesn't lend much credibility!! (By the way….each of you have 6 minutes…lol)

Oh.My.Lord.