Charlie Kirk Assassination Man Hunt Updates & Speculation[Staff Edit]

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Keyno
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Go watch tmz video specifically toward the end of the frame where he's seen going to the event. His knee bends just as far as what is seen in this pic
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So the Former FBI agent suggests the shot to the throat was likely a message. Anybody want to chime in on this?
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Yes I've seen it…his my struggle to believe there's a rifle barrel down his leg…I very well could be wrong…I'm just struggling to understand why he can bend his knee that much…
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I'm right there with you. I just tried with one of my rifles and it was very difficult to walk and couldn't even get up the stairs.
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I am wondering if he somehow rigged backpack up as a carrying case. Most of it is possibly in backpack but some portion of barrel is extending down pants possibly into pant leg, with backpack obscuring it?
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Quite possibly, but then the barrel would likely go down the rear of his pant leg, right?
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Zero chance the rifle was in those pants. It was planted on the roof previously.
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That's my thought. Only other thing that makes sense is it was already in place.
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Just to be clear, I think what we've seen is:

1. Photos from his scouting mission 2 weeks ago where he's wearing shirt and backpack
2. TMZ video part 1 (before shooting) where he is walking with clear limp and rifle in pants
3. TMZ video part 2 (after shooting) where he has already dropped rifle and is getting away

Or am I missing something?
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Wasn't the event only announced six days ago?
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Cyanide15 said:

Wasn't the event only announced six days ago?

Don't know...if that's the case that would clearly undermine 'scouting mission' timeline.
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Serotonin said:

Just to be clear, I think what we've seen is:

1. Photos from his scouting mission 2 weeks ago where he's wearing shirt and backpack
2. TMZ video part 1 (before shooting) where he is walking with clear limp and rifle in pants
3. TMZ video part 2 (after shooting) where he has already dropped rifle and is getting away

Or am I missing something?

I don't think we know for sure, honestly…

Maybe the 830 presser will shed more light on what we are seeing…

I'm still not sure we aren't dealing with multiple people at this point…I doubt we are personally, but I'm not sure…

And I just can't seem to see a rifle in those pants…
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link to the presser please?
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Serotonin said:

Just to be clear, I think what we've seen is:

1. Photos from his scouting mission 2 weeks ago where he's wearing shirt and backpack
2. TMZ video part 1 (before shooting) where he is walking with clear limp and rifle in pants
3. TMZ video part 2 (after shooting) where he has already dropped rifle and is getting away

Or am I missing something?

I dont think we know when the photos were taken. But he appears to be dressed the same in the released photos as well as the TMZ videos
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Cyanide15 said:

Wasn't the event only announced six days ago?

That was reported on Fox yesterday.
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Quote:

I'm still not sure we aren't dealing with multiple people at this point

Yeah, agree.
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Link to press conference on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/live/pVhRkpa9gxo?si=swwEMNQJ41R22o3Z
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So we have video of him walking prior to the shooting, supposedly headed to the campus. How did he get to that neighborhood? Where did he start walking? He either got out of a vehicle parked far away from campus or he emerged from one of the houses near that neighborhood
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Sterling82 said:

So the Former FBI agent suggests the shot to the throat was likely a message. Anybody want to chime in on this?


Yeah right
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TheBonifaceOption said:

FBI will have a press conference at 830 CST


Coming up

https://www.youtube.com/live/pVhRkpa9gxo?si=dGPQzBfMm8IPFUXE
"We're going to turn this red Prius into a soup kitchen!"
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Who?mikejones! said:

Sterling82 said:

So the Former FBI agent suggests the shot to the throat was likely a message. Anybody want to chime in on this?


Yeah right

Yeah, I saw that and rolled my eyes. Have to keep in mind that these reporters, even the conservative ones, are dingbats when it comes to guns and how shooting works.
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Who?mikejones! said:

Sterling82 said:

So the Former FBI agent suggests the shot to the throat was likely a message. Anybody want to chime in on this?


Yeah right

She's the special agent (former) and that's what she said. I think it's a reach but I didn't make the comment.
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Sterling82 said:

So the Former FBI agent suggests the shot to the throat was likely a message. Anybody want to chime in on this?

She is hard to listen to.
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Sterling82 said:

Who?mikejones! said:

Sterling82 said:

So the Former FBI agent suggests the shot to the throat was likely a message. Anybody want to chime in on this?


Yeah right

She's the special agent (former) and that's what she said. I think it's a reach but I didn't make the comment.

Oh lord, I missed the fact that it was an agent that said it. She should know better, geez. DEI hire?
Keyno
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gravitartx said:

Link to press conference on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/live/pVhRkpa9gxo?si=swwEMNQJ41R22o3Z

Are we gonna hear from Kash?
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Sterling82 said:

Who?mikejones! said:

Sterling82 said:

So the Former FBI agent suggests the shot to the throat was likely a message. Anybody want to chime in on this?


Yeah right

She's the special agent (former) and that's what she said. I think it's a reach but I didn't make the comment.

I'm going to go with wishful thinking on their part
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Keyno said:

Serotonin said:

Just to be clear, I think what we've seen is:

1. Photos from his scouting mission 2 weeks ago where he's wearing shirt and backpack
2. TMZ video part 1 (before shooting) where he is walking with clear limp and rifle in pants
3. TMZ video part 2 (after shooting) where he has already dropped rifle and is getting away

Or am I missing something?

I dont think we know when the photos were taken. But he appears to be dressed the same in the released photos as well as the TMZ videos


I think there are multiple people and some dressed the same. As for the private jet, I'm not thinking that is related. They likely discovered an issue with the transponder and headed back for maintenance.

I wouldn't be surprised if there were 4 or so people involved. Gun left on roof overnight. Gunman fires and tears down the rifle. Hands parts off to others. Others, wearing the same kind of clothes take their respective parts and dump them.

I dont believe for one second the gun they found is the gun that was used. This is way too high profile to just dump a gun in the woods.
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Ghost91 said:

Who?mikejones! said:

Sterling82 said:

So the Former FBI agent suggests the shot to the throat was likely a message. Anybody want to chime in on this?


Yeah right

Yeah, I saw that and rolled my eyes. Have to keep in mind that these reporters, even the conservative ones, are dingbats when it comes to guns and how shooting works.


Former FBI woman.

My takeaway was that it's just another example of the infatuation and romanticization of these events.
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If he had the rifle down his pants there'd likely be dna on it even if he tried to wipe it. Somewhere his ungloved hands touched that stairwell rail so there'd be possible fingerprints and dna even though that's less certain with others touching the rail.

Other possibility is he didn't think the rifle would be found so quick and may not have wiped it. Maybe was planning to come back for it.
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But valid analysis on Hannity.

The perp used the handrails without gloves. What a moron.
Keyno
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Talon2DSO said:

Keyno said:

Serotonin said:

Just to be clear, I think what we've seen is:

1. Photos from his scouting mission 2 weeks ago where he's wearing shirt and backpack
2. TMZ video part 1 (before shooting) where he is walking with clear limp and rifle in pants
3. TMZ video part 2 (after shooting) where he has already dropped rifle and is getting away

Or am I missing something?

I dont think we know when the photos were taken. But he appears to be dressed the same in the released photos as well as the TMZ videos


I think there are multiple people and some dressed the same. As for the private jet, I'm not thinking that is related. They likely discovered an issue with the transponder and headed back for maintenance.

I wouldn't be surprised if there were 4 or so people involved. Gun left on roof overnight. Gunman fires and tears down the rifle. Hands parts off to others. Others, wearing the same kind of clothes take their respective parts and dump them.

I dont believe for one second the gun they found is the gun that was used. This is way too high profile to just dump a gun in the woods.

Interesting. That is ALOT of moving pieces. Doesnt really explain the TMZ video of the man limping before the shooting
Tom Fox
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Sterling82 said:

Who?mikejones! said:

Sterling82 said:

So the Former FBI agent suggests the shot to the throat was likely a message. Anybody want to chime in on this?


Yeah right

She's the special agent (former) and that's what she said. I think it's a reach but I didn't make the comment.

She is FOS.

F -Famous
B - But
I -Incompetent

At least that is how the other feds referred to them.
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Apparently, the killer is Keyser Soze
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suburban cowboy said:

But valid analysis on Hannity.

The perp used the handrails without gloves. What a moron.


So a guy makes a high profile and very public shot. Takes every precaution to get into position undetected with a rifle. And then puts his bare hands on everything?? There are enough movies, tv shows, and podcasts to know that leaving a trace is a big no no. If thats really "the guy" he sure is leaving a ton of trade evidence. So much that law enforcement should know everything about him by now.
 
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