They don't want to debate these points any longer. It didn't go well when Josh and Dave debated. The plan now by their side is to scream antisemitism, attempt to deplatform and retreat. Don't let them. Keep the pressure on. Ask the tough questions.

Keep in mind the one guy who tried to get these two factions to debate was murdered. Keep the pressure on. The marketplace of ideas must win the day. Tough conversations must take place. This is America. Competition is king.

Yes, the Neo Nazi that Trump hosted at Mar A lago.

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Yes, the Neo Nazi that Trump hosted at Mar A lago.

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This is a common misconception. Trump hosted Kanye West, also known as Ye, and Ye brought Fuentes as a guest. Trump did not know who Fuentes was at the time, but by accounts he was impressed by him.

already sick of josh hammer and his chutzpah, and i never even heard of him until charlie was murdered.

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True, but some people are specific on how and why it is bad and what is necessary to fix problems instead of just broadly castigating identity groups as part of some ongoing conspiracy. There's too much of that going around lately and it's shallow and creates new problems instead of solving existing ones.

I understand the cynicism behind it, and the more subtle nihilism underlaying that from the youth, with all the doom casting that goes on today in media. But I don't think extremism is a solution, rather it is just an emotional outlet.

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America First isn't extremism. And he isn't a nihilist, he talks about how bad nihilism is all the time.

You would know that if you actually watched the show like you claimed. It's fine that people don't watch it, it's just weird that several have claimed to watch it when they only see clips.

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Literally no one on here, aside from pantywaste liberals, thinks this is a bad thing.

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He said "I don't think extremism is a solution." So obviously that's false.

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You really think he is talking about an "America First" approach being "extremism"? Come on, don't be intentionally dense. We are all longing for America first. That's what Charlie Kirk. The Fuentes idolaters seem to think he holds a monopoly on "America First". That's insane to me.

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It's the name of Nick Fuentes' show (been the name for a decade) and he says it 50 times each show and lays it out every night.

Again, things y'all would know if y'all watched the show like you claimed.

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I'm not a boomer, but my parents are. I never heard of the guy before this thread. I want to listen to a couple of his episodes and form my own opinion. Shack009, please recommend the best 2 - 3 episodes that embody the Nick Fuentes you would like the older generations to know.

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So apparently Mamdani led significantly among voters under 35, with 64% support in that age group according to reports. This trend also appears nationwide. My question is why does the far left's views have more support for these types of candidate than the far right does for theirs ? Messaging issue ? We've all seen the videos of CK going to campuses and talking with young, misinformed youth, but yet they continue to support left leaning candidates and far right candidates fail.

How does Fuentes plan on gaining more support from "your generation" ?

Love to hear more than, shut up boomer, cause it's apparent your age group is allowing more and more to turn and stay left.

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I truly don't mean this to sound like "shut up Boomer," but i do think the Boomers are reading too much in to the Mamdani win.

My wife and I were friends with a Gen Z Jewish girl from the NE when we lived in Dallas and she moved back to NYC not that long ago. She was all in on Mamdani for the past year. Sometimes things are as simple as "dumb libs." We all kind of agree on where things have gone wrong, but their policy prescriptions are just insane.

Fuentes is going on all sorts of podcasts/YouTube channels and various internet shows over the past year. His face is almost everywhere you see right wing politics talked about on the internet. His clips have also been all over instagram recently. About a month ago there was a massive push of Fuentes clips on instagram. Young men are extremely right wing by all polling data, so he really doesn't have to do much there. He had also spent 5 years trying to debate Charlie, but Charlie wouldn't do it. You can find plenty of times where he has "debated" someone or a group if you look it up on YouTube.

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Thanks for the response. Unfortunately, what is really needed is for the band-aid to be ripped off and our political system will not allow that to happen. There isn't one elected "official" who isn't compromised by either power, money, or just being a POS. I have dealt with many of them on both sides. My experience is that left is actually the easiest to deal with, once you get over the fact that they are godless but they actually tell you what they want to occur. Republicans in Congress are *****s. Never met a group of liars like them. If I wouldn't get arrested I'd go to the Navel Academy and piss on McCain's grave.

Again, how does the message get to the younger generations ? Truth be told, and I admit to a lack of knowledge on Fuentes, but unfortunately what many see at first glance is, White Supremacy, Jew hating talk. Whether that is true or not, I will review Fuentes myself so I can become more informed, it does come across that way to many. America First is what most here certainly strive for, I'd love for every illegal to shipped out and if we have to have more economic pain so be it. Now that doesn't help the current young person I know, now my generation, either you have wealth now or buy a lotto ticket cause it's too late but I don't know if America having to go through a Mamdani or like him in power to witness the ruin is they way either.

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Yes, the Neo Nazi that Trump hosted at Mar A lago.

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This is a common misconception. Trump hosted Kanye West, also known as Ye, and Ye brought Fuentes as a guest. Trump did not know who Fuentes was at the time, but by accounts he was impressed by him.

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Also a self proclaimed Nazi

Gay https://t.co/5lBoqtrpl9

— The Misfit Patriot (@misfitpatriot_) November 6, 2025

He gonna start iv-ing in vitamins and lsd now?

What a dbag

Weird to see these dudes gush so hard over Fuentes. It comes off as kind of desperate to increase their own audience with Groypers. Goes way beyond acknowledging his stances and influence.

Another article about how the firewall between Fuentes and the GOP has collapsed.

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Mr. Vance has fretted about what he has called "social solidarity." In an interview in May with the New York Times Opinion columnist Ross Douthat, he said, "I'm trying to preserve something in my own country where we are a unified nation, and I don't think that can happen if you have too much immigration too quickly."

This summer, he gave a speech at the Trump-aligned Claremont Institute, in which he worried that if being an American means simply adhering to an ideal, "let's say, of the Declaration of Independence," American identity "would include hundreds of millions, maybe billions, of foreign citizens."

"At the same time," the vice president continued, defining citizenship purely as adhering to the principles of the nation's founding documents would exclude many on the right who don't subscribe to those principles and whose "own ancestors were here at the time of the Revolutionary War."

A few months later, Senator Eric Schmitt, Republican of Missouri, was more explicit in a speech before the National Conservatism Conference in Washington, where he lamented that a "few lines in a poem on the Statue of Liberty and five words about equality in the Declaration of Independence" led to unfettered immigration and multiculturalism.

"We Americans," he said, "are the sons and daughters of the Christian pilgrims that poured out from Europe's shores to baptize a new world in their ancient faith."

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https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/06/us/politics/nick-fuentes-trump.html?unlocked_article_code=1.zE8.HIXV.Yng9MXq9Av7-&smid=url-share

oof, even PBD is calling out zionist eddie munster now.

Patrick Bet-David says Ben Shapiro cancelled a planned interview after PBD hosted Nick Fuentes on his show. pic.twitter.com/HIlYbiFCN1

— Timcast News (@TimcastNews) November 7, 2025

I think Fuentes is a tool to combat Israel, but also to increase your own following. PBD doesn't need the latter, but many others do.

Also feels like there is a Nick Fuentes bubble brewing. His valuation seems to be getting way out of hand. A feedback loop of those claiming he is Hitler and those responding by claiming he is a legend....with the back and forth inflating itself.

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— The Misfit Patriot (@misfitpatriot_) November 6, 2025

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Virgin, doesn't like meat, probably couldn't bench press the bar. The alt-right's hero is a little *****.

Low T weirdo

This you? pic.twitter.com/00bCJHorVH

— Mo (@108Mj) November 12, 2025

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Gay https://t.co/5lBoqtrpl9

— The Misfit Patriot (@misfitpatriot_) November 6, 2025

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A literal Soyboy Nazi

Just means one of Bill Gates mosquitos got him.

but yeah, Nick has always been a little light in the loafers.

More from the gay little loser

Nick Fuentes says the GOP must be destroyed and replaced by a left/right populist coalition

"The left has to give up immigration, the right has to give up on the free market." pic.twitter.com/d5qP724JqN

— 𝐆𝐫𝐢𝐦𝐚𝐥𝐝𝐮𝐬 (@ImperiumFirst) November 19, 2025

As anyone capable of any type of critical thought understood:

Why, it’s almost like I was right when I said this “movement” is mostly astroturfed.

Now, consider that maybe all those “views” for certain podcasters might not be on the up and up either. https://t.co/e3C9OVQqqW

— Bonchie (@bonchieredstate) November 23, 2025

Bad week for the gay troll fanboys

It is becoming very clear that all he is doing now is trying to see how far he can go and pushing the envelope of saying dumb stuff and still keep the weirdo "groypers" defending him

Nick Fuentes says the "Muslim problem" in the United States is a jewish distraction

"To me the Muslim thing is just a complete non-issue in the United States as of right now, it's the definition of scare mongering." pic.twitter.com/MIxTNFXpKl

— Fuentes Updates (@FuentesUpdates) December 2, 2025

"Racist"

"Anti-semitic"

etc.

I just lump him in under the nomenclature of "****ing idiot".

Never heard/watched him. Still don't know what a groyper is.


Pretty sure I'm ok being clueless about both.