BlackGold said:Phatbob said:
Israel was not the only source is the point. We didn't go to war because Israel told us to. That's just dumb.
Giving the order of going to war and providing fake bs intelligence are two separate things, but you can see how one would impact the other.
Phatbob said:BlackGold said:Phatbob said:
Israel was not the only source is the point. We didn't go to war because Israel told us to. That's just dumb.
Giving the order of going to war and providing fake bs intelligence are two separate things, but you can see how one would impact the other.
So your assertion is they made it all up? And the other sources did too? It was all a conspiracy, then?
BlackGold said:Phatbob said:BlackGold said:Phatbob said:
Israel was not the only source is the point. We didn't go to war because Israel told us to. That's just dumb.
Giving the order of going to war and providing fake bs intelligence are two separate things, but you can see how one would impact the other.
So your assertion is they made it all up? And the other sources did too? It was all a conspiracy, then?
My assertion and something we should all understand now, is that there were NO WMDS IN IRAQ. I'm also saying that Israel and its representatives came before the US Congress (see the video) and stated with 100% certainty, there were WMDs in Iraq. The whole pretense for us invading Iraq was that were WMDs and that was very clearly a LIE. What do you conclude from that? Just bad intel? No, it was more seditious than that.
Phatbob said:
Israel was not the only source is the point. We didn't go to war because Israel told us to. That's just dumb.
TRM said:
Y'all are derailing this thread
Keyno said:
I'll get us back on track in regards to the thread topic by stating my view.
The political ramifications for this conflict depend on the outcome. Israel's goal is to topple the regime, because they have a policy of taking out all their regional enemies as outlined in the Oded Yinon Plan and the Clean Break Report.
Politically, if this happens, then Israel will become a defacto worldwide superpower. They would control regional oil shipping lanes, trade routes, have military superiority over the region, and have a huge stockpile of nukes (while no one else in the region has them). America will have effectively created a rival superpower.
It is problematic for America, politically, because our government is littered with men and women of questionable loyalty (Ted Cruz- "If you will not stand with Israel, I will not stand with you" comes to mind).
Politically, this war is going to wreck the GOP in the midterms. Nobody wanted or voted for this and the Strait of Hormuz is going to remain closed- so everyday Americans are going to be eating the costs of that.
Keyno said:
I'll get us back on track in regards to the thread topic by stating my view.
The political ramifications for this conflict depend on the outcome. Israel's goal is to topple the regime, because they have a policy of taking out all their regional enemies as outlined in the Oded Yinon Plan and the Clean Break Report.
Politically, if this happens, then Israel will become a defacto worldwide superpower. They would control regional oil shipping lanes, trade routes, have military superiority over the region, and have a huge stockpile of nukes (while no one else in the region has them). America will have effectively created a rival superpower.
It is problematic for America, politically, because our government is littered with men and women of questionable loyalty (Ted Cruz- "If you will not stand with Israel, I will not stand with you" comes to mind).
Politically, this war is going to wreck the GOP in the midterms. Nobody wanted or voted for this and the Strait of Hormuz is going to remain closed- so everyday Americans are going to be eating the costs of that.
Phatbob said:Keyno said:
I'll get us back on track in regards to the thread topic by stating my view.
The political ramifications for this conflict depend on the outcome. Israel's goal is to topple the regime, because they have a policy of taking out all their regional enemies as outlined in the Oded Yinon Plan and the Clean Break Report.
Politically, if this happens, then Israel will become a defacto worldwide superpower. They would control regional oil shipping lanes, trade routes, have military superiority over the region, and have a huge stockpile of nukes (while no one else in the region has them). America will have effectively created a rival superpower.
It is problematic for America, politically, because our government is littered with men and women of questionable loyalty (Ted Cruz- "If you will not stand with Israel, I will not stand with you" comes to mind).
Politically, this war is going to wreck the GOP in the midterms. Nobody wanted or voted for this and the Strait of Hormuz is going to remain closed- so everyday Americans are going to be eating the costs of that.
You think this is "getting back on track"? This is one of the most outlandish posts I've seen in a while
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Reports from Oman claim the Islamic Republic's elite families are relocating there as the crisis deepens.
A message circulating from an Iranian in Muscat, Oman, alleges that the families of senior regime figures including Ali Larijani, Abbas Araghchi, and Gholam-Hossein Mohseni-Ejei are currently staying in two major hotels in the city.
The message also claims that others who managed to leave Iran through the Van border crossing into Turkey have been moved into safe houses connected to the Iranian embassy in Muscat.
According to the account, shopping centers in Muscat are now filled with chador-wearing women and men with clerical appearances, believed to be families connected to regime officials.
It further alleges that the family of police commander Ahmad Reza Radan also arrived in Oman via Turkey.
The message also claims that figures involved in financial networks linked to the regime, including the Shamkhani family, have long maintained offices in Oman, allegedly overseen by Naji Shamkhani, a cousin of Ali Shamkhani.
🚨 Reports from Oman claim the Islamic Republic’s elite families are relocating there as the crisis deepens.
— The Iran Watcher 🇮🇷 (@TheIranWatcher) March 15, 2026
A message circulating from an Iranian in Muscat, Oman, alleges that the families of senior regime figures including Ali Larijani, Abbas Araghchi, and Gholam-Hossein… https://t.co/l4qU1oWRo5 pic.twitter.com/sJb0cO6VDw
Instead of fighting over a 21-mile-wide bottleneck forever, we cut a new channel through friendly territory. A dozen thermonuclear detonations and you’ve got a waterway wider than the Panama Canal, deeper than the Suez, and safe from Iranian attacks. https://t.co/Et21kHCiAw
— Newt Gingrich (@newtgingrich) March 15, 2026
ChrisTAMU said:Keyno said:
I'll get us back on track in regards to the thread topic by stating my view.
The political ramifications for this conflict depend on the outcome. Israel's goal is to topple the regime, because they have a policy of taking out all their regional enemies as outlined in the Oded Yinon Plan and the Clean Break Report.
Politically, if this happens, then Israel will become a defacto worldwide superpower. They would control regional oil shipping lanes, trade routes, have military superiority over the region, and have a huge stockpile of nukes (while no one else in the region has them). America will have effectively created a rival superpower.
It is problematic for America, politically, because our government is littered with men and women of questionable loyalty (Ted Cruz- "If you will not stand with Israel, I will not stand with you" comes to mind).
Politically, this war is going to wreck the GOP in the midterms. Nobody wanted or voted for this and the Strait of Hormuz is going to remain closed- so everyday Americans are going to be eating the costs of that.
How do you know the strait will remain closed?
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Looking at the current state of affairs, the US cannot reopen the Strait. Obviously things can change in war. It would probably require troops and a sustained naval presence. Which would be constantly attacked by missiles. Trump recently sent out a "truth" (which was reposted to twitter because nobody reads truth social) calling for more countries to come help him secure the Strait. Which conveys that currently he has no idea how to reopen it.
aggiehawg said:Quote:
Looking at the current state of affairs, the US cannot reopen the Strait. Obviously things can change in war. It would probably require troops and a sustained naval presence. Which would be constantly attacked by missiles. Trump recently sent out a "truth" (which was reposted to twitter because nobody reads truth social) calling for more countries to come help him secure the Strait. Which conveys that currently he has no idea how to reopen it.
You obviously have not been watching closely, nor watching the streams I post that explain what is really happening. LOL.
Keyno said:ChrisTAMU said:Keyno said:
I'll get us back on track in regards to the thread topic by stating my view.
The political ramifications for this conflict depend on the outcome. Israel's goal is to topple the regime, because they have a policy of taking out all their regional enemies as outlined in the Oded Yinon Plan and the Clean Break Report.
Politically, if this happens, then Israel will become a defacto worldwide superpower. They would control regional oil shipping lanes, trade routes, have military superiority over the region, and have a huge stockpile of nukes (while no one else in the region has them). America will have effectively created a rival superpower.
It is problematic for America, politically, because our government is littered with men and women of questionable loyalty (Ted Cruz- "If you will not stand with Israel, I will not stand with you" comes to mind).
Politically, this war is going to wreck the GOP in the midterms. Nobody wanted or voted for this and the Strait of Hormuz is going to remain closed- so everyday Americans are going to be eating the costs of that.
How do you know the strait will remain closed?
Looking at the current state of affairs, the US cannot reopen the Strait. Obviously things can change in war. It would probably require troops and a sustained naval presence. Which would be constantly attacked by missiles. Trump recently sent out a "truth" (which was reposted to twitter because nobody reads truth social) calling for more countries to come help him secure the Strait. Which conveys that currently he has no idea how to reopen it.
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Link them- I'd be happy to watch them and discuss (but not if they are hours long, I do not have time for that)
If you'd like to make your own point with your own words, that may be better
Trump warns NATO countries of a “very bad future” if they don’t join US in its naval effort to reopen Hormuz -FT
— OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical) March 15, 2026
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One thing the Iran War has demonstrated is that the overwhelming majority of journalists and commentators on the war are blindingly ignorant of the basics of military operations, they are unacquainted with the staff process, and they are so eaten alive by the all-devouring TDS virus that they have lost the ability to reason when Trump is involved.
Keyno said:ChrisTAMU said:Keyno said:
I'll get us back on track in regards to the thread topic by stating my view.
The political ramifications for this conflict depend on the outcome. Israel's goal is to topple the regime, because they have a policy of taking out all their regional enemies as outlined in the Oded Yinon Plan and the Clean Break Report.
Politically, if this happens, then Israel will become a defacto worldwide superpower. They would control regional oil shipping lanes, trade routes, have military superiority over the region, and have a huge stockpile of nukes (while no one else in the region has them). America will have effectively created a rival superpower.
It is problematic for America, politically, because our government is littered with men and women of questionable loyalty (Ted Cruz- "If you will not stand with Israel, I will not stand with you" comes to mind).
Politically, this war is going to wreck the GOP in the midterms. Nobody wanted or voted for this and the Strait of Hormuz is going to remain closed- so everyday Americans are going to be eating the costs of that.
How do you know the strait will remain closed?
Looking at the current state of affairs, the US cannot reopen the Strait. Obviously things can change in war. It would probably require troops and a sustained naval presence. Which would be constantly attacked by missiles. Trump recently sent out a "truth" (which was reposted to twitter because nobody reads truth social) calling for more countries to come help him secure the Strait. Which conveys that currently he has no idea how to reopen it.
Dan Scott said:
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/116235861005528220
Iran has long been known as a Master of Media Manipulation and Public Relations. They are Militarily ineffective and weak, but are really good at "feeding" the very appreciative Fake News Media false information. Now, A.I. has become another Disinformation weapon that Iran uses, quite well, considering they are being annihilated by the day. They showed phony "Kamikaze Boats," shooting at various Ships at Sea, which looks wonderful, powerful, and vicious, but these Boats don't exist It's all false information to show how "tough" their already defeated Military is! The five U.S. Refueling Planes that were supposedly struck down and badly damaged, according to The Wall Street Journal's false reporting, and others, are all in service, with the exception of one, which will soon be flying the skies. Buildings and Ships that are shown to be on fire are not It's FAKE NEWS, generated by A.I. For instance, Iran, working in close coordination with the Fake News Media, shows our great USS Abraham Lincoln Aircraft Carrier, one of the largest and most prestigious Ships in the World, burning uncontrollably in the Ocean. Not only was it not burning, it was not even shot at Iran knows better than to do that! The story was knowingly FAKE and, in a certain way, you can say that those Media Outlets that generated it should be brought up on Charges for TREASON for the dissemination of false information! The fact is, Iran is being decimated, and the only battles they "win" are those that they create through AI, and are distributed by Corrupt Media Outlets. The Radical Leftwing Press knows this full well, but continues to go forward with false stories and LIES. That's why their Approval Rating is so low, and I can win a Presidential Election, IN A LANDSLIDE, getting only 5% positive Press They have no credibility! I am so thrilled to see Brendan Carr, the Chairman of the Federal Communications Commission (FCC), looking at the licenses of some of these Corrupt and Highly Unpatriotic "News" Organizations. They get Billions of Dollars of FREE American Airwaves, and use it to perpetuate LIES, both in News and almost all of their Shows, including the Late Night Morons, who get gigantic Salaries for horrible Ratings, and never get, as I used to say in The Apprentice, "FIRED." Thank you for your attention to this matter! President DONALD J. TRUMP
Smoking gun: A Hamas secret letter to Iran’s new Supreme Leader, Mojtaba Khamenei, urges him to escalate the war across the Middle East in Lebanon, Iraq, Yemen and every front possible.
— Israel Foreign Ministry (@IsraelMFA) March 15, 2026
The letter mocks Gulf states as “weak.”
Proof the Palestinians betray their Arab brothers. pic.twitter.com/P2thCwKH1q
Given all the U.S. does for NATO, withdrawal from the alliance is completely appropriate if we’re met with this level of intransigence by our closest allies”allies”. Let’s see how well Europe fares without financial and military backing by the U.S. taxpayer.
— dilettante101 (@dilettante34308) March 16, 2026
TRM said:Smoking gun: A Hamas secret letter to Iran’s new Supreme Leader, Mojtaba Khamenei, urges him to escalate the war across the Middle East in Lebanon, Iraq, Yemen and every front possible.
— Israel Foreign Ministry (@IsraelMFA) March 15, 2026
The letter mocks Gulf states as “weak.”
Proof the Palestinians betray their Arab brothers. pic.twitter.com/P2thCwKH1q
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Carr is right: The public has lost faith and confidence in the media. The FCC, however, can only do so much about the scourge of Fake News, and the reason is that they have jurisdiction over the public airwaves but not over what newspapers print or what slop cable news puts on air. That leaves most of the major leftist outlets, such as CNN, MS NOW, The NY Times, and The Washington Post, et al., unaffected by his announcement.
The national networks like NBC, ABC, and CBS aren't required to have licenses, either, but their local affiliates are, so they might want to pay attention to what Carr has to say.
Meanwhile, Trump has been quite successful at punishing purveyors of misinformation; he's secured settlements for tens of millions of dollars from ABC News (for anchor George Stephanopoulos' false on-air assertion that Trump had been found civilly liable for "rape") and CBS News (for its doctored Kamala Harris interview). He has other pending litigation as well, although some cases have been thrown out of court.
The best way to combat fake news, however, is for audiences to tune away in droves and ignore the worst of the worst mainstream media outlets. We've seen plenty of that happening, and we need to see even more.
Belgium’s PM Bart de Wever: “We must normalise relations with Russia and regain access to cheap energy. That is common sense. [...] We must end the conflict in the interest of Europe, without being naïve towards Putin.”https://t.co/BopPAyhKSL
— max seddon (@maxseddon) March 16, 2026
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A news site called Justice In Conflict reported in January that "in 2021, a Tehran police chief was spotted at a Toronto-area gym. In 2024, it was reported that 700 Iranian nationals linked to the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) resided in Canada the same group that has been designated as a terrorist entity by the Canadian government. That same year, five Iranian regime figures faced deportation back to Iran."
Now, thanks to the X platform, we have almost real-time proof that the IRGC rats are fleeing the ship.
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Lantsman got into greater detail in an op-ed she penned for a Canadian news site called Todayville, where she said that hundreds of IRGC agents may be in Canada.
While she acknowledged that Mark Carney, Canada's prime minister, called that number inaccurate, he won't confirm any number.
"This week we learned from the Minister's own agency that at least 239 people linked to the Iranian regime are living here in Canada and have had their visas revoked," Lantsman wrote. "Yet of the 239 whose visas have been revoked, only one single person has actually been deported."
Lantsman's numbers are based on news media reports, which she says suggests that 700 IRGC agents may be in Canada.
When discussing the Canadian government's seeming paralysis on the issue and the notion of deporting potential hostile residents from Iran, Lantsman said "senior bureaucrats blamed a lack of flights to Iran for the government's inaction, as if the regime was not already a listed sponsor of terrorism long before the current hostilities."
She added that the government "went on about protecting 'privacy,' and suggested that some of these individuals might even be able to claim asylum. This is very much another self-own from Canada's broken and abused refugee system, which is supposed to protect those fleeing violence, not protect those importing it."
Carney has gone on record as saying he won't support the U.S. and Israel in their attacks on Iran. In light of these reports of IRGC members setting up shop in Canada, you have to wonder if Carney's motives were tied to his desire for peace in the form of the status quo, or has he taken a side in this conflict?
Dan Scott said:Trump warns NATO countries of a “very bad future” if they don’t join US in its naval effort to reopen Hormuz -FT
— OSINTtechnical (@Osinttechnical) March 15, 2026
Mara is a typical Biden Adult who played the part of head of Europe/NATO policy at the Pentagon in the lead-up to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. Thankfully, she is no longer at the Pentagon and is now at an irrelevant think tank. https://t.co/hR0UM4prc5
— Ezra A. Cohen (@EzraACohen) March 16, 2026
