Iran Has Capitulated to President Trump

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The libertarian dream. All 2%. Been a thing for 60+ years. Streakers unite.
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Red Fishing Ag93 said:

FWTXAg said:

Red Fishing Ag93 said:

FWTXAg said:

Red Fishing Ag93 said:

BrazosDog02 said:

Woods Ag said:

AGHouston11 said:

How is it that the regime is barely still intact but can somehow control the strait and collect tolls. Who is coordinating the tolls and overseeing who can pass or not.

They have no Navy or Air Force but still control the strait. I only say that because we are told over and over again they have no Navy or Air Force as if that is supposed to be really significant.

So again how is it they still control the strait?

It's like they had a plan in place our intelligence had no idea about? That's doubtful.

We were told Iran has capitulated and Trump celebrated on Truth Social. That Mission Accomplished lasted one day.

So now our reactionary plan for it being closed is a blockade of our own! Seems all well planned?

Our intelligence advised against this. Caine advised against this. Vance didn't like this. Tulsi wasn't included because she probably didn't like this. Kent already quit because he didn't want this and he came out with that.

This decision was solely Trumps based on Bibi's "intel" and briefing.

I've said before, it's not hard to shut down the straight. Mines, Drones, Pirates... They strike 1 ship and everything goes to a standstill.

Start putting the pieces together. Where are the Epstein files? Where is all the corruption that was going to get exposed? Why aren't people in jail for any of this crazy **** that has happened? It's just not there? What happened?

No new wars! We're ending wars! and out of no where we're bombing Iran's nuclear facilities. It's all done now, no more ability to make nukes... Bibi shows up again wanting more war with Iran. No one on trumps admin believes a word of it, but Trump is pulling the ****ing trigger again.

Who the **** is pulling the strings? What happened that made Trump call the Epstein files nonsense? Why did we reverse course on all of his campaign promises including no new wars?

Take off your blue and red colored glasses and just be objective with both parties. Some of you are so ****ing sold out to one side it hurts my heart that there are so few objective people. Eventually you have to open you eyes and see that Trump is compromised and he isn't worth a **** either.

Edit: Sorry - I replied to you but it curtailed into a rant that isn't really directed at you. Just frustrated with some of the stuff I read on this and other threads.



As a Trump voter who regrets my decision with more frequency every week , I'm with you. You're right.

So...... Kamala.


No...... Rand Paul or Thomas Massie.

So..... Kamala.

No...... Rand Paul or Thomas Massie. Or in other words, anyone who is actually fiscally conservative and socially liberal and wants to shrink the size of government at every level. A vote for a big government Republican like Trump, Rubio, Vance, etc. is the same as a vote for Kamala.

That would lose to Kamala.

I like Rand and Thomas, too.

And Cruz was a top pick in 2016.

But none of those could fight the machine like Trump could and win.

So...... Kamala.

Edit: You add to say Kamala is same as Trump.

Can't argue with stupid.





Trump, Kamala, Biden, etc. and on down the line all have the same boss. And it ain't the middle class.
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I want to go back to the no new wars people. How is this a new war? This is a country that has been holding the region hostage for decades while also killing Americans. CDR Sal rightly calls this a punitive expedition.

There is a direct correlation between this and the actions against the Barbary Pirates right after the founding of the country.

It's a limited operation with fairly discreet goals. End enrichment and using terror proxies and do whatever the eff else you want. It's the farthest thing from the Iraq or Afghanistan wars where we tried to reinvent countries. It's a rejection of the Powell Doctrine and a return to traditional American interventions.
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Woods Ag said:

FWTXAg said:

Red Fishing Ag93 said:

FWTXAg said:

Red Fishing Ag93 said:

BrazosDog02 said:

Woods Ag said:

AGHouston11 said:

How is it that the regime is barely still intact but can somehow control the strait and collect tolls. Who is coordinating the tolls and overseeing who can pass or not.

They have no Navy or Air Force but still control the strait. I only say that because we are told over and over again they have no Navy or Air Force as if that is supposed to be really significant.

So again how is it they still control the strait?

It's like they had a plan in place our intelligence had no idea about? That's doubtful.

We were told Iran has capitulated and Trump celebrated on Truth Social. That Mission Accomplished lasted one day.

So now our reactionary plan for it being closed is a blockade of our own! Seems all well planned?

Our intelligence advised against this. Caine advised against this. Vance didn't like this. Tulsi wasn't included because she probably didn't like this. Kent already quit because he didn't want this and he came out with that.

This decision was solely Trumps based on Bibi's "intel" and briefing.

I've said before, it's not hard to shut down the straight. Mines, Drones, Pirates... They strike 1 ship and everything goes to a standstill.

Start putting the pieces together. Where are the Epstein files? Where is all the corruption that was going to get exposed? Why aren't people in jail for any of this crazy **** that has happened? It's just not there? What happened?

No new wars! We're ending wars! and out of no where we're bombing Iran's nuclear facilities. It's all done now, no more ability to make nukes... Bibi shows up again wanting more war with Iran. No one on trumps admin believes a word of it, but Trump is pulling the ****ing trigger again.

Who the **** is pulling the strings? What happened that made Trump call the Epstein files nonsense? Why did we reverse course on all of his campaign promises including no new wars?

Take off your blue and red colored glasses and just be objective with both parties. Some of you are so ****ing sold out to one side it hurts my heart that there are so few objective people. Eventually you have to open you eyes and see that Trump is compromised and he isn't worth a **** either.

Edit: Sorry - I replied to you but it curtailed into a rant that isn't really directed at you. Just frustrated with some of the stuff I read on this and other threads.



As a Trump voter who regrets my decision with more frequency every week , I'm with you. You're right.

So...... Kamala.


No...... Rand Paul or Thomas Massie.

So..... Kamala.

No...... Rand Paul or Thomas Massie. Or in other words, anyone who is actually fiscally conservative and socially liberal and wants to shrink the size of government at every level. A vote for a big government Republican like Trump, Rubio, Vance, etc. is the same as a vote for Kamala.


Man… Javier Milei talking with Elon and that whole vibe… I was really hopeful we were moving in that direction

We were.

Then Elon realized and has said out loud that Washington DC cannot be fixed.
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FWTXAg said:

Red Fishing Ag93 said:

FWTXAg said:

Red Fishing Ag93 said:

BrazosDog02 said:

Woods Ag said:

AGHouston11 said:

How is it that the regime is barely still intact but can somehow control the strait and collect tolls. Who is coordinating the tolls and overseeing who can pass or not.

They have no Navy or Air Force but still control the strait. I only say that because we are told over and over again they have no Navy or Air Force as if that is supposed to be really significant.

So again how is it they still control the strait?

It's like they had a plan in place our intelligence had no idea about? That's doubtful.

We were told Iran has capitulated and Trump celebrated on Truth Social. That Mission Accomplished lasted one day.

So now our reactionary plan for it being closed is a blockade of our own! Seems all well planned?

Our intelligence advised against this. Caine advised against this. Vance didn't like this. Tulsi wasn't included because she probably didn't like this. Kent already quit because he didn't want this and he came out with that.

This decision was solely Trumps based on Bibi's "intel" and briefing.

I've said before, it's not hard to shut down the straight. Mines, Drones, Pirates... They strike 1 ship and everything goes to a standstill.

Start putting the pieces together. Where are the Epstein files? Where is all the corruption that was going to get exposed? Why aren't people in jail for any of this crazy **** that has happened? It's just not there? What happened?

No new wars! We're ending wars! and out of no where we're bombing Iran's nuclear facilities. It's all done now, no more ability to make nukes... Bibi shows up again wanting more war with Iran. No one on trumps admin believes a word of it, but Trump is pulling the ****ing trigger again.

Who the **** is pulling the strings? What happened that made Trump call the Epstein files nonsense? Why did we reverse course on all of his campaign promises including no new wars?

Take off your blue and red colored glasses and just be objective with both parties. Some of you are so ****ing sold out to one side it hurts my heart that there are so few objective people. Eventually you have to open you eyes and see that Trump is compromised and he isn't worth a **** either.

Edit: Sorry - I replied to you but it curtailed into a rant that isn't really directed at you. Just frustrated with some of the stuff I read on this and other threads.



As a Trump voter who regrets my decision with more frequency every week , I'm with you. You're right.

So...... Kamala.


No...... Rand Paul or Thomas Massie.

So..... Kamala.

No...... Rand Paul or Thomas Massie. Or in other words, anyone who is actually fiscally conservative and socially liberal and wants to shrink the size of government at every level. A vote for a big government Republican like Trump, Rubio, Vance, etc. is the same as a vote for Kamala.

Not even close. And Paul and Massie were not running.
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Going to be lots of mad people

I'm Gipper
Keyno
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Im Gipper said:



Going to be lots of mad people

Hasn't Trump claimed victory like 20 times going back almost 2 months?
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I seriously doubt if Trump saying it is over means it is over

Hope I am wrong just because escalation and more war would be worse but If I had to wager on over/not over I'd take the not over
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No news outlet is running it. The markets arent reacting.

We have to wait and see
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Thread title does not deliver
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The politicians in Iran doing the negotiating absolutely want to capitulate. The economy is on the verge of collapse and their foreign currency reserves are pretty much gone. Civil servants have not been paid. Banks are failing. Inflation is in the triple digits. It's already estimated it may take up to a decade to recover the economic losses already suffered.

The IRGC refuses to allow a deal. These are the people who murdered their own citizens and support the mullahs. They don't care about the people.
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The stock markets have already recovered to pre-war levels and the S&P 500 is only about 30-ish points from the all-time high.
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ErnestEndeavor said:

The stock markets have already recovered to pre-war levels and the S&P 500 is only about 30-ish points from the all-time high.


I'm aware. Ive sold nearly everything today. Has been a good trading environment.


All of that happened before an announcement of it being over.
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I think the point is the spring has already kind of snapped back and there's not going to be some sort of exuberant jump because it's slowly been happening over the last week or two.
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FWTXAg said:

Red Fishing Ag93 said:

FWTXAg said:

Red Fishing Ag93 said:

FWTXAg said:

Red Fishing Ag93 said:

BrazosDog02 said:

Woods Ag said:

AGHouston11 said:

How is it that the regime is barely still intact but can somehow control the strait and collect tolls. Who is coordinating the tolls and overseeing who can pass or not.

They have no Navy or Air Force but still control the strait. I only say that because we are told over and over again they have no Navy or Air Force as if that is supposed to be really significant.

So again how is it they still control the strait?

It's like they had a plan in place our intelligence had no idea about? That's doubtful.

We were told Iran has capitulated and Trump celebrated on Truth Social. That Mission Accomplished lasted one day.

So now our reactionary plan for it being closed is a blockade of our own! Seems all well planned?

Our intelligence advised against this. Caine advised against this. Vance didn't like this. Tulsi wasn't included because she probably didn't like this. Kent already quit because he didn't want this and he came out with that.

This decision was solely Trumps based on Bibi's "intel" and briefing.

I've said before, it's not hard to shut down the straight. Mines, Drones, Pirates... They strike 1 ship and everything goes to a standstill.

Start putting the pieces together. Where are the Epstein files? Where is all the corruption that was going to get exposed? Why aren't people in jail for any of this crazy **** that has happened? It's just not there? What happened?

No new wars! We're ending wars! and out of no where we're bombing Iran's nuclear facilities. It's all done now, no more ability to make nukes... Bibi shows up again wanting more war with Iran. No one on trumps admin believes a word of it, but Trump is pulling the ****ing trigger again.

Who the **** is pulling the strings? What happened that made Trump call the Epstein files nonsense? Why did we reverse course on all of his campaign promises including no new wars?

Take off your blue and red colored glasses and just be objective with both parties. Some of you are so ****ing sold out to one side it hurts my heart that there are so few objective people. Eventually you have to open you eyes and see that Trump is compromised and he isn't worth a **** either.

Edit: Sorry - I replied to you but it curtailed into a rant that isn't really directed at you. Just frustrated with some of the stuff I read on this and other threads.



As a Trump voter who regrets my decision with more frequency every week , I'm with you. You're right.

So...... Kamala.


No...... Rand Paul or Thomas Massie.

So..... Kamala.

No...... Rand Paul or Thomas Massie. Or in other words, anyone who is actually fiscally conservative and socially liberal and wants to shrink the size of government at every level. A vote for a big government Republican like Trump, Rubio, Vance, etc. is the same as a vote for Kamala.

That would lose to Kamala.

I like Rand and Thomas, too.

And Cruz was a top pick in 2016.

But none of those could fight the machine like Trump could and win.

So...... Kamala.

Edit: You add to say Kamala is same as Trump.

Can't argue with stupid.





Trump, Kamala, Biden, etc. and on down the line all have the same boss. And it ain't the middle class.


Is it………..THE JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS?
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Dan Carlin said:

Thread title does not deliver

It's only a matter of time before it does.
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ErnestEndeavor said:



Thats not what it says. What it says is "Russia Agrees to Receive Iran's Stockpile of Enriched Uranium". It does not say Iran has agreed to give it up.

For reference, Russia offered to take the uranium to facilitate a peace deal as far back as March 13. And Trump rejected the proposal.
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Keyno said:

ErnestEndeavor said:



Thats not what it says. What it says is "Russia Agrees to Receive Iran's Stockpile of Enriched Uranium". It does not say Iran has agreed to give it up.

For reference, Russia offered to take the uranium to facilitate a peace deal as far back as March 13. And Trump rejected the proposal.


Thank you, Kenya

Interesting to see what th day brings.
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AGHouston11 said:

Does anyone really believe this is all over!

They have already been obliterated and the war has been over we have been told before.

At least he has two weeks to get away from the likes of Lindsey Graham!

Hope I'm wrong but I don't believe it's even remotely close to over. Seen this play before.
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Woods Ag said:

AGHouston11 said:

How is it that the regime is barely still intact but can somehow control the strait and collect tolls. Who is coordinating the tolls and overseeing who can pass or not.

They have no Navy or Air Force but still control the strait. I only say that because we are told over and over again they have no Navy or Air Force as if that is supposed to be really significant.

So again how is it they still control the strait?

It's like they had a plan in place our intelligence had no idea about? That's doubtful.

We were told Iran has capitulated and Trump celebrated on Truth Social. That Mission Accomplished lasted one day.

So now our reactionary plan for it being closed is a blockade of our own! Seems all well planned?

Our intelligence advised against this. Caine advised against this. Vance didn't like this. Tulsi wasn't included because she probably didn't like this. Kent already quit because he didn't want this and he came out with that.

This decision was solely Trumps based on Bibi's "intel" and briefing.

I've said before, it's not hard to shut down the straight. Mines, Drones, Pirates... They strike 1 ship and everything goes to a standstill.

Start putting the pieces together. Where are the Epstein files? Where is all the corruption that was going to get exposed? Why aren't people in jail for any of this crazy **** that has happened? It's just not there? What happened?

No new wars! We're ending wars! and out of no where we're bombing Iran's nuclear facilities. It's all done now, no more ability to make nukes... Bibi shows up again wanting more war with Iran. No one on trumps admin believes a word of it, but Trump is pulling the ****ing trigger again.

Who the **** is pulling the strings? What happened that made Trump call the Epstein files nonsense? Why did we reverse course on all of his campaign promises including no new wars?

Take off your blue and red colored glasses and just be objective with both parties. Some of you are so ****ing sold out to one side it hurts my heart that there are so few objective people. Eventually you have to open you eyes and see that Trump is compromised and he isn't worth a **** either.

Edit: Sorry - I replied to you but it curtailed into a rant that isn't really directed at you. Just frustrated with some of the stuff I read on this and other threads.


Well said. Makes me think of this quote from George Carlin:

Quote:

Two reasons I don't vote: first of all, it's meaningless. This country was bought and sold and paid for a long time ago. The **** they shuffle around every four years doesn't mean a ****in' thing.

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One week cease fire between Israel and Lebanon apparently close.

https://www.irishtimes.com/world/middle-east/2026/04/15/one-week-ceasefire-in-lebanon-expected-to-take-effect-as-us-iran-truce-efforts-continue/

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A one-week ceasefire in Lebanon is expected to come into effect following pressure from the US as Washington continues its effort to reach a framework agreement with Iran to end the Middle East war.

The Hizbullah-affiliated Al-Mayadeen channel in Lebanon reported that the truce could begin as early as Thursday and is expected to last until the end of the ceasefire between Iran and the US on April 22nd.

The channel reported that the Lebanon truce is an Iranian demand. Tehran sees Washington as responsible for restraining Israeli prime minister Binyamin Netanyahu, who has repeatedly spoken in favour of continuing the attacks against Hizbullah.

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Keyno said:

ErnestEndeavor said:



Thats not what it says. What it says is "Russia Agrees to Receive Iran's Stockpile of Enriched Uranium". It does not say Iran has agreed to give it up.

For reference, Russia offered to take the uranium to facilitate a peace deal as far back as March 13. And Trump rejected the proposal.

Thanks for the clarification. I don't think Russia taking the uranium is a viable endpoint. They are the ones that supplied Iran with the uranium in the first place and they have no incentive not to give it back to them at some point in the future.
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txags92 said:

Keyno said:

ErnestEndeavor said:



Thats not what it says. What it says is "Russia Agrees to Receive Iran's Stockpile of Enriched Uranium". It does not say Iran has agreed to give it up.

For reference, Russia offered to take the uranium to facilitate a peace deal as far back as March 13. And Trump rejected the proposal.

Thanks for the clarification. I don't think Russia taking the uranium is a viable endpoint. They are the ones that supplied Iran with the uranium in the first place and they have no incentive not to give it back to them at some point in the future.

Incorrect. Iran gets most of its raw uranium ore from domestic mines.
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Keyno said:

txags92 said:

Keyno said:

ErnestEndeavor said:



Thats not what it says. What it says is "Russia Agrees to Receive Iran's Stockpile of Enriched Uranium". It does not say Iran has agreed to give it up.

For reference, Russia offered to take the uranium to facilitate a peace deal as far back as March 13. And Trump rejected the proposal.

Thanks for the clarification. I don't think Russia taking the uranium is a viable endpoint. They are the ones that supplied Iran with the uranium in the first place and they have no incentive not to give it back to them at some point in the future.

Incorrect. Iran gets most of its raw uranium ore from domestic mines.

They may get their raw uranium now from internal sources, but the Bushehr reactor was built with Russian assistance and the fuel rods for it were provided in by Russia in 2010. There were weapons grade samples collected by IAEA in 2003 or 2004 in Iran that matched Russian and Pakistani sources. They were blamed on contamination of equipment provided by those countries, but that excuse always seemed pretty flimsy to me.
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txags92 said:

Keyno said:

txags92 said:

Keyno said:

ErnestEndeavor said:



Thats not what it says. What it says is "Russia Agrees to Receive Iran's Stockpile of Enriched Uranium". It does not say Iran has agreed to give it up.

For reference, Russia offered to take the uranium to facilitate a peace deal as far back as March 13. And Trump rejected the proposal.

Thanks for the clarification. I don't think Russia taking the uranium is a viable endpoint. They are the ones that supplied Iran with the uranium in the first place and they have no incentive not to give it back to them at some point in the future.

Incorrect. Iran gets most of its raw uranium ore from domestic mines.

They may get their raw uranium now from internal sources, but the Bushehr reactor was built with Russian assistance and the fuel rods for it were provided in by Russia in 2010. There were weapons grade samples collected by IAEA in 2003 or 2004 in Iran that matched Russian and Pakistani sources. They were blamed on contamination of equipment provided by those countries, but that excuse always seemed pretty flimsy to me.

True
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Woods Ag said:

Keyno said:

ErnestEndeavor said:



Thats not what it says. What it says is "Russia Agrees to Receive Iran's Stockpile of Enriched Uranium". It does not say Iran has agreed to give it up.

For reference, Russia offered to take the uranium to facilitate a peace deal as far back as March 13. And Trump rejected the proposal.


Thank you, Kenya

Interesting to see what th day brings.

Well the day has come and gone. And no Iranian uranium has been given to Russia. So I guess the Saudi story was a red herring.

Here's what was reported today. The Pentagon has asked Ford and GM to start producing weapons and military equipment. So that means its over and we won, right?

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/pentagon-approaches-automakers-manufacturers-boost-weapons-production-wsj-2026-04-16/
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Keyno said:

Woods Ag said:

Keyno said:

ErnestEndeavor said:



Thats not what it says. What it says is "Russia Agrees to Receive Iran's Stockpile of Enriched Uranium". It does not say Iran has agreed to give it up.

For reference, Russia offered to take the uranium to facilitate a peace deal as far back as March 13. And Trump rejected the proposal.


Thank you, Kenya

Interesting to see what th day brings.

Well the day has come and gone. And no Iranian uranium has been given to Russia. So I guess the Saudi story was a red herring.

Here's what was reported today. The Pentagon has asked Ford and GM to start producing weapons and military equipment. So that means its over and we won, right?

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/pentagon-approaches-automakers-manufacturers-boost-weapons-production-wsj-2026-04-16/

Quote:

Senior U.S. defense officials have held talks about producing weapons and other military supplies with top executives of companies including General Motors (GM.N), opens new tab and Ford Motor (F.N), opens new tab, the Wall Street Journal reported on Wednesday, citing people familiar with the discussions.


The preliminary and wide-ranging talks, which started before the war in Iran, come as the Trump administration wants automakers and other American manufacturers to play a larger role in weapons production, the Journal said.


Yeah... before the war, they started discussions because the war was over.
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Keyno said:

Woods Ag said:

Keyno said:

ErnestEndeavor said:



Thats not what it says. What it says is "Russia Agrees to Receive Iran's Stockpile of Enriched Uranium". It does not say Iran has agreed to give it up.

For reference, Russia offered to take the uranium to facilitate a peace deal as far back as March 13. And Trump rejected the proposal.


Thank you, Kenya

Interesting to see what th day brings.

Well the day has come and gone. And no Iranian uranium has been given to Russia. So I guess the Saudi story was a red herring.

Here's what was reported today. The Pentagon has asked Ford and GM to start producing weapons and military equipment. So that means its over and we won, right?

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/pentagon-approaches-automakers-manufacturers-boost-weapons-production-wsj-2026-04-16/


Idk. I thought you said that it was a mistranslation and alll it really said was Russia said they'd take thr Uranium?

I said it would be an interesting day bc that Fox reporter left the White House the night before saying the war was over and Trump would speak in the morning. I didn't watch his speech but I read he said that it's essentially over which was he's been saying for weeks.

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There is a certain group of ppl that are gonna be really butthurt when we get virtually everything we wanted out of Iran
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These demons leading Iran really badly f'n want to enrich uranium.
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FWTXAg said:

Red Fishing Ag93 said:

FWTXAg said:

Red Fishing Ag93 said:

FWTXAg said:

Red Fishing Ag93 said:

BrazosDog02 said:

Woods Ag said:

AGHouston11 said:

How is it that the regime is barely still intact but can somehow control the strait and collect tolls. Who is coordinating the tolls and overseeing who can pass or not.

They have no Navy or Air Force but still control the strait. I only say that because we are told over and over again they have no Navy or Air Force as if that is supposed to be really significant.

So again how is it they still control the strait?

It's like they had a plan in place our intelligence had no idea about? That's doubtful.

We were told Iran has capitulated and Trump celebrated on Truth Social. That Mission Accomplished lasted one day.

So now our reactionary plan for it being closed is a blockade of our own! Seems all well planned?

Our intelligence advised against this. Caine advised against this. Vance didn't like this. Tulsi wasn't included because she probably didn't like this. Kent already quit because he didn't want this and he came out with that.

This decision was solely Trumps based on Bibi's "intel" and briefing.

I've said before, it's not hard to shut down the straight. Mines, Drones, Pirates... They strike 1 ship and everything goes to a standstill.

Start putting the pieces together. Where are the Epstein files? Where is all the corruption that was going to get exposed? Why aren't people in jail for any of this crazy **** that has happened? It's just not there? What happened?

No new wars! We're ending wars! and out of no where we're bombing Iran's nuclear facilities. It's all done now, no more ability to make nukes... Bibi shows up again wanting more war with Iran. No one on trumps admin believes a word of it, but Trump is pulling the ****ing trigger again.

Who the **** is pulling the strings? What happened that made Trump call the Epstein files nonsense? Why did we reverse course on all of his campaign promises including no new wars?

Take off your blue and red colored glasses and just be objective with both parties. Some of you are so ****ing sold out to one side it hurts my heart that there are so few objective people. Eventually you have to open you eyes and see that Trump is compromised and he isn't worth a **** either.

Edit: Sorry - I replied to you but it curtailed into a rant that isn't really directed at you. Just frustrated with some of the stuff I read on this and other threads.



As a Trump voter who regrets my decision with more frequency every week , I'm with you. You're right.

So...... Kamala.


No...... Rand Paul or Thomas Massie.

So..... Kamala.

No...... Rand Paul or Thomas Massie. Or in other words, anyone who is actually fiscally conservative and socially liberal and wants to shrink the size of government at every level. A vote for a big government Republican like Trump, Rubio, Vance, etc. is the same as a vote for Kamala.

That would lose to Kamala.

I like Rand and Thomas, too.

And Cruz was a top pick in 2016.

But none of those could fight the machine like Trump could and win.

So...... Kamala.

Edit: You add to say Kamala is same as Trump.

Can't argue with stupid.





Trump, Kamala, Biden, etc. and on down the line all have the same boss. And it ain't the middle class.

They do...actually a King not a boss.

Only one of them seems to know who He is.
 
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