Iran Has Capitulated to President Trump

91,387 Views | 815 Replies | Last: 26 days ago by Keyno
Logos Stick
How long do you want to ignore this user?
TxAG#2011 said:

rca21978 said:

Have you read the 10 point proposal? Why even use this as a basis for negotiations?

- Pay reparations
- Allow Iran to enrich uranium
- Remove US troops from the region
- Allow Iran to control SOH

If we agree to these terms, why did we even start a war?


Trump got completely cooked, and deep fried. We spent hundreds of billions and Iran has significantly expanded its geopolitical power.


LoL that you believe that
MemphisAg1
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
David_Puddy said:

I just can't comprehend it. When Obama was ordering strikes I never once thought about political optics, I just always wanted no American casualties. Insane that we share a country with millions of people rooting for its failure simply because they hate Trump with all of their being.

Fully agree. I always support and pray for our troops, regardless if the president is D or R.

To hope for US military failure because you hate the other team more than you love our troops is shameful, but not a surprise coming from democrats. True to form.
Rockdoc
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
So you have a copy of the signed final agreement? Could you post it for us?
Ag for Life
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
TxAG#2011 said:

rca21978 said:

Have you read the 10 point proposal? Why even use this as a basis for negotiations?

- Pay reparations
- Allow Iran to enrich uranium
- Remove US troops from the region
- Allow Iran to control SOH

If we agree to these terms, why did we even start a war?


Trump got completely cooked, and deep fried. We spent hundreds of billions and Iran has significantly expanded its geopolitical power.

Hahahahaha
P.U.T.U
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Ceasefire already broken, Iran has attacked over 5 countries and Israel is firing back. Next conversation
bobbranco
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
P.U.T.U said:

Ceasefire already broken, Iran has attacked over 5 countries and Israel is firing back. Next conversation


Iran lies people die.
Dorm 15
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
LMCane said:

David_Puddy said:

Dorm 15 said:

Cannot we all be glad that we may be coming to an end with this conflict.


Liberals can't because they want us to go into a full blown war because they hate Trump so much and are rooting against any success for him and for our country's failure


I think the leftists did not want a full blown war because then their friends the Islamic Republic would lose

they wanted a never ending "VIETNAM" of the Straits of Hormuz being closed which would wreck the world economy

So, your a "leftist" if you did not want a full blown war?
Who?mikejones!
How long do you want to ignore this user?
P.U.T.U said:

Ceasefire already broken, Iran has attacked over 5 countries and Israel is firing back. Next conversation


It doesnt technically start until the strait is opened.

Theres also the irgc leaders who dgaf what the politicians do. It has been stated multiple times that decision making had been disseminated among local irgc commanders on targets and launches etc. So, its not surprising thay some rockets got launched.

That doesnt mean the deal is off. It hasn't started
P.U.T.U
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
You can't negotiate with one regime in Iran, you have to with all of them and that include the fanatics. Didn't work just talking with the politicians
Rockdoc
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Well if it hasn't started are we still bombing the **** out of them?
Who?mikejones!
How long do you want to ignore this user?
I believe we have stopped, at least according to reports. However, id imagine if they launched a rocket at us we'd respond as well.
David_Puddy
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Who?mikejones! said:

P.U.T.U said:

Ceasefire already broken, Iran has attacked over 5 countries and Israel is firing back. Next conversation


It doesnt technically start until the strait is opened.

Theres also the irgc leaders who dgaf what the politicians do. It has been stated multiple times that decision making had been disseminated among local irgc commanders on targets and launches etc. So, its not surprising thay some rockets got launched.

That doesnt mean the deal is off. It hasn't started


Exactly….not very hard to understand. It's also perfect timing for the politicians to side with & find a way to fund the arming of their citizens to eliminate the IRGC and take their country back.
oh no
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
The same useful idiots who were freaking out about genocide are now all of a sudden typing "taco" all over the internet like they're some smart winners here. They know they are the righteous geniuses no matter what because if Trump does what he says, he's literally Hitler and if he doesn't, he's a taco or something and they knew it all along.
oh no
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
oh no
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
MattAg84
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Mac94 said:

Interesting that Trumps post says that the received 10 point plan the iranians put forward was the basis of the ceasefire. If its the one published... if thats what we're starting with ... Trump definitely blinked.

Didn't agree to anything but it is a starting point. Kinda crazy that some don't understand that.
C/O 2007
Keyno
How long do you want to ignore this user?
P.U.T.U said:

Ceasefire already broken, Iran has attacked over 5 countries and Israel is firing back. Next conversation

Source? I don't doubt you. But "trust but verify" am I right?
MattAg84
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Mac94 said:

LMCane said:

Mac94 said:

Interesting that Trumps post says that the received 10 point plan the iranians put forward was the basis of the ceasefire. If its the one published... if thats what we're starting with ... Trump definitely blinked.

that is not what Trump's post actually said.

it's what you want to believe.


"We received a 10 point proposal from Iran, and believe it is a workable basis on which to negotiate "

directly from his truth social post. Is he referring to the 10 point plan thsts been published? Thats the question. But it might be. But its there whether you want to pretend it isnt or didnt happen.



DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT A NEGOTIATION IS?! Nothing has been agreed to other than more talks and a temporary ceasefire while negotiations continue for 2 weeks. Stop with the obfuscation
C/O 2007
Rockdoc
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
For what it's worth, a military analyst on Jesse Watters just said Trump knows Iran can't stick to the ceasefire and he's just trying to get the strait opened up and using the two weeks to resupply and retool. When Iran does default, Trump will make sure the world knows it.
Ag with kids
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Kyle Field Shade Chaser said:

Don't rust Iran for 1 millisecond

Doveryay, no proveryay
BadMoonRisin
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
rca21978 said:

Agreeing to the Iranian 10 point plan is utter capitulation.

Iran released a statement that the 10 points were a basis for negotiation. We will see where it actually lands in two weeks, if the ceasefire can even last that long.
Ag with kids
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Kyle Field Shade Chaser said:

Don't rust Iran for 1 millisecond

He said he was going to VAPORIZE them, not OXIDIZE them...
Mac94
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
MattAg84 said:

Mac94 said:

LMCane said:

Mac94 said:

Interesting that Trumps post says that the received 10 point plan the iranians put forward was the basis of the ceasefire. If its the one published... if thats what we're starting with ... Trump definitely blinked.

that is not what Trump's post actually said.

it's what you want to believe.


"We received a 10 point proposal from Iran, and believe it is a workable basis on which to negotiate "

directly from his truth social post. Is he referring to the 10 point plan thsts been published? Thats the question. But it might be. But its there whether you want to pretend it isnt or didnt happen.



DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT A NEGOTIATION IS?! Nothing has been agreed to other than more talks and a temporary ceasefire while negotiations continue for 2 weeks. Stop with the obfuscation


We know two plans have been put forward ... our 15 point plan and the Iranian 10 point plan. We know the basics of both. We have pounded them and militarily dominated the fight ... we are hours from pulling the trigger on a massive attack with B52s reportedly in the air. The gun is loaded and pointed at their head, finger on the trigger .... and at the last minute there is this agreement. From such a dominate position why is ther even a possibility that the Iranians are the ones putting out the plan, possibility on their own terms. We hold the cards and IF their 10 point plan ia the one were using for negotiations we are handing them a huge propoganda victory. Why? They should be agreeing to OUR terms ... not setting them. Even it its just a starting point.
Rockdoc
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Ag with kids said:

Kyle Field Shade Chaser said:

Don't rust Iran for 1 millisecond

He said he was going to VAPORIZE them, not OXIDIZE them...

Shucks, I thought we had a new weapon.
Ragoo
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Keyno said:

Old McDonald said:

Keyno said:

Did yall read the "truth" from Trump? It does not say that Iran is opening the Strait and it does not say that Iran agreed to a ceasefire.

yep, this bit is doing a lot of heavy lifting here:
Quote:

subject to the Islamic Republic of Iran agreeing to the COMPLETE, IMMEDIATE, and SAFE OPENING of the Strait of Hormuz, I agree to suspend the bombing and attack of Iran for a period of two weeks.



Since posting that, I have seen some legit sources reporting that Iran has agreed to the 2 weeks

omg Iran wins, congrats. Go team blue.
Ag with kids
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
ErnestEndeavor said:

WestAustinAg said:

Trump can, at any time, declare victory. Who knows. All I know is that the CIA and state dfept have very and assundry ways of communicate whether there were any real victories and whether any of our stated goals were ever in play.Those people are no doubt talking to the NYTimes as we speak.


Interestingly enough, the New York Times is publishing an article in which they talked about Vance, Rubio, Caine, etc trying to convince Trump not to launch the war in the first place but Trump listened to Netanyahu.

And you know that article is a completely made up load of bull*****

It was a great article for the NYT to write, though...they got to blame BOTH Trump AND the Jews...

I bet the authors were giggling giddy the whole time they wrote it.
annie88
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
It is as if none of y'all have watched President Trump for the past 10 years. This is how he works. Everybody that was jumping off a ledge this morning needs to get their **** together.

We seem to go through this every time from the usual suspects. Trump knows how to negotiate. He knows how to get most of the **** he wants. He can't always get everything but he knows how to negotiate.

Plus, we're dealing with that **** crazy terrorists who want everyone dead.

Trump doesn't just say "don't"
I don’t get enough credit for the things I manage not to say.
PJYoung
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
BadMoonRisin said:

rca21978 said:

Agreeing to the Iranian 10 point plan is utter capitulation.

Iran released a statement that the 10 points were a basis for negotiation. We will see where it actually lands in two weeks, if the ceasefire can even last that long.

Trump released that statement. Iran released a statement saying we had agreed to everything and they had won.
Keyno
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Ragoo said:

Keyno said:

Old McDonald said:

Keyno said:

Did yall read the "truth" from Trump? It does not say that Iran is opening the Strait and it does not say that Iran agreed to a ceasefire.

yep, this bit is doing a lot of heavy lifting here:
Quote:

subject to the Islamic Republic of Iran agreeing to the COMPLETE, IMMEDIATE, and SAFE OPENING of the Strait of Hormuz, I agree to suspend the bombing and attack of Iran for a period of two weeks.



Since posting that, I have seen some legit sources reporting that Iran has agreed to the 2 weeks


omg Iran wins, congrats. Go team blue.

Not really. No one has "won". The US strategic objectives have not been met (although Trump claims they have been), Iran's strategic objectives have not been met, and Israel's strategic objectives have not been met.

A ceasefire is not the end of conflict.
Gigem314
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
TxAG#2011 said:

rca21978 said:

Have you read the 10 point proposal? Why even use this as a basis for negotiations?

- Pay reparations
- Allow Iran to enrich uranium
- Remove US troops from the region
- Allow Iran to control SOH

If we agree to these terms, why did we even start a war?


Trump got completely cooked, and deep fried. We spent hundreds of billions and Iran has significantly expanded its geopolitical power.
Iran's leadership being decimated and their military/resources taking major hits is the opposite of "significantly expanded" power.
Colonel Kurtz
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Who do you think owns the NYT?
Ragoo
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Keyno said:

Ragoo said:

Keyno said:

Old McDonald said:

Keyno said:

Did yall read the "truth" from Trump? It does not say that Iran is opening the Strait and it does not say that Iran agreed to a ceasefire.

yep, this bit is doing a lot of heavy lifting here:
Quote:

subject to the Islamic Republic of Iran agreeing to the COMPLETE, IMMEDIATE, and SAFE OPENING of the Strait of Hormuz, I agree to suspend the bombing and attack of Iran for a period of two weeks.



Since posting that, I have seen some legit sources reporting that Iran has agreed to the 2 weeks


omg Iran wins, congrats. Go team blue.

Not really. No one has "won". The US strategic objectives have not been met (although Trump claims they have been), Iran's strategic objectives have not been met, and Israel's strategic objectives have not been met.

A ceasefire is not the end of conflict.
based on your posting history deciphering strategy isn't your strong suit.
deddog
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
oh no said:

The same useful idiots who were freaking out about genocide are now all of a sudden typing "taco" all over the internet like they're some smart winners here. They know they are the righteous geniuses no matter what because if Trump does what he says, he's literally Hitler and if he doesn't, he's a taco or something and they knew it all along.


Liberals are stupid, miserable people. Remember they believed ******ed Biden was smart as tack and men can get pregnant.
They are best ignored or ridiculed by for their stupid takes. Pray for their children .
rgag12
How long do you want to ignore this user?
AG
Mac94 said:

MattAg84 said:

Mac94 said:

LMCane said:

Mac94 said:

Interesting that Trumps post says that the received 10 point plan the iranians put forward was the basis of the ceasefire. If its the one published... if thats what we're starting with ... Trump definitely blinked.

that is not what Trump's post actually said.

it's what you want to believe.


"We received a 10 point proposal from Iran, and believe it is a workable basis on which to negotiate "

directly from his truth social post. Is he referring to the 10 point plan thsts been published? Thats the question. But it might be. But its there whether you want to pretend it isnt or didnt happen.



DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT A NEGOTIATION IS?! Nothing has been agreed to other than more talks and a temporary ceasefire while negotiations continue for 2 weeks. Stop with the obfuscation


We know two plans have been put forward ... our 15 point plan and the Iranian 10 point plan. We know the basics of both. We have pounded them and militarily dominated the fight ... we are hours from pulling the trigger on a massive attack with B52s reportedly in the air. The gun is loaded and pointed at their head, finger on the trigger .... and at the last minute there is this agreement. From such a dominate position why is ther even a possibility that the Iranians are the ones putting out the plan, possibility on their own terms. We hold the cards and IF their 10 point plan ia the one were using for negotiations we are handing them a huge propoganda victory. Why? They should be agreeing to OUR terms ... not setting them. Even it its just a starting point.


You realize the US could easily put out a statement saying Iran agreed to all our 15 points and we won.

Nothing anyone says means **** right now. The only main things tha have been agreed are that we won't bomb them for two weeks and Iran/Oman charge a toll through the strait for two weeks.
Keyno
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Ragoo said:

Keyno said:

Ragoo said:

Keyno said:

Old McDonald said:

Keyno said:

Did yall read the "truth" from Trump? It does not say that Iran is opening the Strait and it does not say that Iran agreed to a ceasefire.

yep, this bit is doing a lot of heavy lifting here:
Quote:

subject to the Islamic Republic of Iran agreeing to the COMPLETE, IMMEDIATE, and SAFE OPENING of the Strait of Hormuz, I agree to suspend the bombing and attack of Iran for a period of two weeks.



Since posting that, I have seen some legit sources reporting that Iran has agreed to the 2 weeks


omg Iran wins, congrats. Go team blue.

Not really. No one has "won". The US strategic objectives have not been met (although Trump claims they have been), Iran's strategic objectives have not been met, and Israel's strategic objectives have not been met.

A ceasefire is not the end of conflict.

based on your posting history deciphering strategy isn't your strong suit.

Which countries strategic objectives have been met? What does 2 week ceasefire mean?
 
×
subscribe Verify your student status
See Subscription Benefits
Trial only available to users who have never subscribed or participated in a previous trial.