TxAG#2011 said:rca21978 said:
Have you read the 10 point proposal? Why even use this as a basis for negotiations?
- Pay reparations
- Allow Iran to enrich uranium
- Remove US troops from the region
- Allow Iran to control SOH
If we agree to these terms, why did we even start a war?
Trump got completely cooked, and deep fried. We spent hundreds of billions and Iran has significantly expanded its geopolitical power.
David_Puddy said:
I just can't comprehend it. When Obama was ordering strikes I never once thought about political optics, I just always wanted no American casualties. Insane that we share a country with millions of people rooting for its failure simply because they hate Trump with all of their being.
TxAG#2011 said:rca21978 said:
Have you read the 10 point proposal? Why even use this as a basis for negotiations?
- Pay reparations
- Allow Iran to enrich uranium
- Remove US troops from the region
- Allow Iran to control SOH
If we agree to these terms, why did we even start a war?
Trump got completely cooked, and deep fried. We spent hundreds of billions and Iran has significantly expanded its geopolitical power.
P.U.T.U said:
Ceasefire already broken, Iran has attacked over 5 countries and Israel is firing back. Next conversation
LMCane said:David_Puddy said:Dorm 15 said:
Cannot we all be glad that we may be coming to an end with this conflict.
Liberals can't because they want us to go into a full blown war because they hate Trump so much and are rooting against any success for him and for our country's failure
I think the leftists did not want a full blown war because then their friends the Islamic Republic would lose
they wanted a never ending "VIETNAM" of the Straits of Hormuz being closed which would wreck the world economy
P.U.T.U said:
Ceasefire already broken, Iran has attacked over 5 countries and Israel is firing back. Next conversation
Who?mikejones! said:P.U.T.U said:
Ceasefire already broken, Iran has attacked over 5 countries and Israel is firing back. Next conversation
It doesnt technically start until the strait is opened.
Theres also the irgc leaders who dgaf what the politicians do. It has been stated multiple times that decision making had been disseminated among local irgc commanders on targets and launches etc. So, its not surprising thay some rockets got launched.
That doesnt mean the deal is off. It hasn't started
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Mac94 said:
Interesting that Trumps post says that the received 10 point plan the iranians put forward was the basis of the ceasefire. If its the one published... if thats what we're starting with ... Trump definitely blinked.
P.U.T.U said:
Ceasefire already broken, Iran has attacked over 5 countries and Israel is firing back. Next conversation
Mac94 said:LMCane said:Mac94 said:
Interesting that Trumps post says that the received 10 point plan the iranians put forward was the basis of the ceasefire. If its the one published... if thats what we're starting with ... Trump definitely blinked.
that is not what Trump's post actually said.
it's what you want to believe.
"We received a 10 point proposal from Iran, and believe it is a workable basis on which to negotiate "
directly from his truth social post. Is he referring to the 10 point plan thsts been published? Thats the question. But it might be. But its there whether you want to pretend it isnt or didnt happen.
Kyle Field Shade Chaser said:
Don't rust Iran for 1 millisecond
rca21978 said:
Agreeing to the Iranian 10 point plan is utter capitulation.
Kyle Field Shade Chaser said:
Don't rust Iran for 1 millisecond
MattAg84 said:Mac94 said:LMCane said:Mac94 said:
Interesting that Trumps post says that the received 10 point plan the iranians put forward was the basis of the ceasefire. If its the one published... if thats what we're starting with ... Trump definitely blinked.
that is not what Trump's post actually said.
it's what you want to believe.
"We received a 10 point proposal from Iran, and believe it is a workable basis on which to negotiate "
directly from his truth social post. Is he referring to the 10 point plan thsts been published? Thats the question. But it might be. But its there whether you want to pretend it isnt or didnt happen.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT A NEGOTIATION IS?! Nothing has been agreed to other than more talks and a temporary ceasefire while negotiations continue for 2 weeks. Stop with the obfuscation
Ag with kids said:Kyle Field Shade Chaser said:
Don't rust Iran for 1 millisecond
He said he was going to VAPORIZE them, not OXIDIZE them...
omg Iran wins, congrats. Go team blue.Keyno said:Old McDonald said:Keyno said:
Did yall read the "truth" from Trump? It does not say that Iran is opening the Strait and it does not say that Iran agreed to a ceasefire.
yep, this bit is doing a lot of heavy lifting here:Quote:
subject to the Islamic Republic of Iran agreeing to the COMPLETE, IMMEDIATE, and SAFE OPENING of the Strait of Hormuz, I agree to suspend the bombing and attack of Iran for a period of two weeks.
Since posting that, I have seen some legit sources reporting that Iran has agreed to the 2 weeks
ErnestEndeavor said:WestAustinAg said:
Trump can, at any time, declare victory. Who knows. All I know is that the CIA and state dfept have very and assundry ways of communicate whether there were any real victories and whether any of our stated goals were ever in play.Those people are no doubt talking to the NYTimes as we speak.
Interestingly enough, the New York Times is publishing an article in which they talked about Vance, Rubio, Caine, etc trying to convince Trump not to launch the war in the first place but Trump listened to Netanyahu.
BadMoonRisin said:rca21978 said:
Agreeing to the Iranian 10 point plan is utter capitulation.
Iran released a statement that the 10 points were a basis for negotiation. We will see where it actually lands in two weeks, if the ceasefire can even last that long.
Ragoo said:Keyno said:Old McDonald said:Keyno said:
Did yall read the "truth" from Trump? It does not say that Iran is opening the Strait and it does not say that Iran agreed to a ceasefire.
yep, this bit is doing a lot of heavy lifting here:Quote:
subject to the Islamic Republic of Iran agreeing to the COMPLETE, IMMEDIATE, and SAFE OPENING of the Strait of Hormuz, I agree to suspend the bombing and attack of Iran for a period of two weeks.
Since posting that, I have seen some legit sources reporting that Iran has agreed to the 2 weeks
omg Iran wins, congrats. Go team blue.
Iran's leadership being decimated and their military/resources taking major hits is the opposite of "significantly expanded" power.TxAG#2011 said:rca21978 said:
Have you read the 10 point proposal? Why even use this as a basis for negotiations?
- Pay reparations
- Allow Iran to enrich uranium
- Remove US troops from the region
- Allow Iran to control SOH
If we agree to these terms, why did we even start a war?
Trump got completely cooked, and deep fried. We spent hundreds of billions and Iran has significantly expanded its geopolitical power.
based on your posting history deciphering strategy isn't your strong suit.Keyno said:Ragoo said:Keyno said:Old McDonald said:Keyno said:
Did yall read the "truth" from Trump? It does not say that Iran is opening the Strait and it does not say that Iran agreed to a ceasefire.
yep, this bit is doing a lot of heavy lifting here:Quote:
subject to the Islamic Republic of Iran agreeing to the COMPLETE, IMMEDIATE, and SAFE OPENING of the Strait of Hormuz, I agree to suspend the bombing and attack of Iran for a period of two weeks.
Since posting that, I have seen some legit sources reporting that Iran has agreed to the 2 weeks
omg Iran wins, congrats. Go team blue.
Not really. No one has "won". The US strategic objectives have not been met (although Trump claims they have been), Iran's strategic objectives have not been met, and Israel's strategic objectives have not been met.
A ceasefire is not the end of conflict.
oh no said:
The same useful idiots who were freaking out about genocide are now all of a sudden typing "taco" all over the internet like they're some smart winners here. They know they are the righteous geniuses no matter what because if Trump does what he says, he's literally Hitler and if he doesn't, he's a taco or something and they knew it all along.
Mac94 said:MattAg84 said:Mac94 said:LMCane said:Mac94 said:
Interesting that Trumps post says that the received 10 point plan the iranians put forward was the basis of the ceasefire. If its the one published... if thats what we're starting with ... Trump definitely blinked.
that is not what Trump's post actually said.
it's what you want to believe.
"We received a 10 point proposal from Iran, and believe it is a workable basis on which to negotiate "
directly from his truth social post. Is he referring to the 10 point plan thsts been published? Thats the question. But it might be. But its there whether you want to pretend it isnt or didnt happen.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT A NEGOTIATION IS?! Nothing has been agreed to other than more talks and a temporary ceasefire while negotiations continue for 2 weeks. Stop with the obfuscation
We know two plans have been put forward ... our 15 point plan and the Iranian 10 point plan. We know the basics of both. We have pounded them and militarily dominated the fight ... we are hours from pulling the trigger on a massive attack with B52s reportedly in the air. The gun is loaded and pointed at their head, finger on the trigger .... and at the last minute there is this agreement. From such a dominate position why is ther even a possibility that the Iranians are the ones putting out the plan, possibility on their own terms. We hold the cards and IF their 10 point plan ia the one were using for negotiations we are handing them a huge propoganda victory. Why? They should be agreeing to OUR terms ... not setting them. Even it its just a starting point.
Ragoo said:Keyno said:Ragoo said:Keyno said:Old McDonald said:Keyno said:
Did yall read the "truth" from Trump? It does not say that Iran is opening the Strait and it does not say that Iran agreed to a ceasefire.
yep, this bit is doing a lot of heavy lifting here:Quote:
subject to the Islamic Republic of Iran agreeing to the COMPLETE, IMMEDIATE, and SAFE OPENING of the Strait of Hormuz, I agree to suspend the bombing and attack of Iran for a period of two weeks.
Since posting that, I have seen some legit sources reporting that Iran has agreed to the 2 weeks
omg Iran wins, congrats. Go team blue.
Not really. No one has "won". The US strategic objectives have not been met (although Trump claims they have been), Iran's strategic objectives have not been met, and Israel's strategic objectives have not been met.
A ceasefire is not the end of conflict.
based on your posting history deciphering strategy isn't your strong suit.
