Haven't looked it up, but at this point, probably not great? I don't think he's won any major award yet this season, and it seems like Phoenix is starting to rack up some wins.

Kind of feels like it's between Driver and Phoenix at this point.

Yeah, really hoping for a Driver upset over Phoenix. Leo's not in the mix, I'm afraid.

I loved Driver in Marriage Story, but IMO it's not even close. Joaquin was absolutely fantastic and the sole reason that movie worked. And he's in every frame of the movie.

(To be clear, my opinion on who should win, not who WILL win.)

You're probably right.

Marriage Story was boring as hell....don't waste your time

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It'll be for rent probably in a few weeks. Digital releases for purchase first then rental when the DVD/blu-ray comes out.

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Good tip. I'll try to wait. Though I'm really anxious to watch it!

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Same here, want to see The Farewell also (already for rent).

Today's Oscar trivia around The Lion King's VFX nom.

Two other animated pictures have also been nominated for a Best Visual Effects Oscar, The Nightmare Before Christmas and Kubo and the Two Strings (also nominated for Best Animated Feature).

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Wow. Whoever wrote this worthless tirade should be embarrassed. It's so full of hatred, it's almost comical.

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Man, I just don't know what they want then. Leo wins for The Revenant but not even in the mix for this? That's probably the best performance I've ever seen him give. That role was pretty layered actually.

The Joker love is starting to get ridiculous. Not jumping on the "It's not a good movie!" train, but it's definitely getting overhyped at this point.

I guess I'm going to have to watch Marriage Story even though it looks boring as hell and not interesting in the least (to me).

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It's honestly pretty weird and random. Leo's best performances of his career blow away The Revenant, and he didn't win. One of his best was Revolutionary Road, and he wasn't even nominated.

To me he should have won right out of the gate for Gilbert Grape, but they gave it to TLJ for The Fugitive.

I love that movie, don't get me wrong. But you're telling me Tommy Lee Jones was Oscar-worthy in that movie?

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"Full of hatred"? Ha, he literally goes out of his way to acknowledge and seemingly even agree with a lot of the positive reactions to many different aspects of the filmmaking. In fact, I actually found parts of it pretty funny in the beginning and then more and more spot-on as his gripes narrowed. Is it a little over the top? Sure. But maybe you need to loosen your grip on this one?

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"Full of hatred"? Ha, he literally goes out of his way to acknowledge and seemingly even agree with a lot of the positive reactions to many different aspects of the filmmaking. In fact, I actually found parts of it pretty funny in the beginning and then more and more spot-on as his gripes narrowed. Is it a little over the top? Sure. But maybe you need to loosen your grip on this one?

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I think it reeks of self righteousness, with a healthy dose of personal hatred for the movie, Phillips, Phoenix, or all of the above. Guess it all depends on perspective.

And what exactly is wrong with that? He didn't like the movie. He expressed his opinion for it in pretty convincing detail. That's not allowed?

The Oscars have become a parody of themselves

God these nominations are atrocious. Joker getting a best picture nomination is laughable but then again Green Book won last year so whatever. No Farewell is really a travesty. No Knives out? I was annoyed when Widows was left out last year but Knives out being left out is just insane, IMO.

1917 for best original screenplay is pretty laughable as well.

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"Full of hatred"? Ha, he literally goes out of his way to acknowledge and seemingly even agree with a lot of the positive reactions to many different aspects of the filmmaking. In fact, I actually found parts of it pretty funny in the beginning and then more and more spot-on as his gripes narrowed. Is it a little over the top? Sure. But maybe you need to loosen your grip on this one?

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I think it reeks of self righteousness, with a healthy dose of personal hatred for the movie, Phillips, Phoenix, or all of the above. Guess it all depends on perspective.

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"personal hatred of the movie" lol, and? Ya'll need to stop getting up in arms when someone disagrees with you about a movie. For as much as a lot of you like to call other people snow flakes, its amazing how you need your Star Wars and Joker safe spaces so badly and lash out when someone doesn't agree with your take on it.

Btw, re: all this Joker talk, last night's 60 Minutes has a pretty good interview/profile with Joaquin Phoenix. I watched it during lunch today and he definitely comes across as far more human/like-able than he has in the past. It almost made me want to give Joker another chance, which I might do tonight, if I have the time, after the National Championship game.

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"Full of hatred"? Ha, he literally goes out of his way to acknowledge and seemingly even agree with a lot of the positive reactions to many different aspects of the filmmaking. In fact, I actually found parts of it pretty funny in the beginning and then more and more spot-on as his gripes narrowed. Is it a little over the top? Sure. But maybe you need to loosen your grip on this one?

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I think it reeks of self righteousness, with a healthy dose of personal hatred for the movie, Phillips, Phoenix, or all of the above. Guess it all depends on perspective.

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"personal hatred of the movie" lol, and? Ya'll need to stop getting up in arms when someone disagrees with you about a movie. For as much as a lot of you like to call other people snow flakes, its amazing how you need your Star Wars and Joker safe spaces so badly and lash out when someone doesn't agree with your take on it.

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Lol wut? You picked an odd post and poster to try and have that effective soapbox moment Broltin Bro DiMaggibro. Nothing in your rant applies to me or even my posts on the thread. Had you read 2 posts below the one you quoted you may see that. Or you may not.

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As an Oscar winner, should they include Kobe in this year's in memoriam?

That'd be pretty cool.

I was wondering the same thing. My answer is absolutely, as I think there'd be an outcry if not, but who knows.

the only reason they might not is because they'd do it next year since he died in 2020. Can't remember if the Oscars does the In Memoriam by calendar year or not.

But either way he absolutely will be part of it.

Edit - just read Dalton's post above. That's interesting and would be too bad if they stuck to it. Have they ever broke ranks on that?

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On this page the Academy pays homage to those members who have passed away this year.

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I just can't see the Academy going outside of it's established rules to recognize him. Yes, he won an Oscar for his four minute animated short but that was the extent of his work in film. It's also just not worth the potential blowback given his 2003 rape allegations in this post-Weinstein #MeToo era.

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Surprisingly, I've seen next to no mention of the rape stuff over the past day or so. If anything, Hollywood, for the most part, seems to be just as enamored with and in mourning of him as everyone else. The only negative Hollywood thing I've seen so far is actress Evan Rachel Wood tweeting about the rape, and she got a ton of sh/t for it. But overall, I think people genuinely appreciate how much he's changed, how great of a father he's become, etc. That, and his God-like status in LA transcends all. He might have even surpassed Magic as the LA icon. The Academy may not put him in the In Memorandum because of the member/year thing (I didn't think about it being 2020), but I just can't see him not being recognized in some form or fashion. He's too beloved here, and his Oscar win was such a thing, that I think way more people will raise a stink if there's not some kind of mention of him over the people who might raise a stink because of the rape charges.

I thought he won after the Me Too movement had started?