Alec Baldwin may be in some hot water

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TexasRebel said:

Had they been filming, there may not have been people at the camera. They were moving/resetting the camera at the time.

Hammers can slip. Mechanical safeties are not infallible, especially those from 1873 (unless it was an updated replica with a block). If he was rehearsing a cross-draw technique he's unfamiliar with, he could have slipped his trigger finger in the guard (maybe that's why he was practicing).

Yes the whole situation makes little sense, but you don't figure out what happened by saying, "that wasn't supposed to."


1873 era mechanical safeties on single action revolvers? That's new.

On 1873 ra revolvers, especially the Colt Peacemaker didn't have mechanical safeties. It's a reason that a LOT of safety concerned people from that era only loaded five rounds in their six shooter leaving an empty chamber under the hammer. Yet when they had to draw to fire, when the cylinder clocked a live round was moved into position. SIngle action mechanical safeties were actually introduced in the 20th century by Ruger on their single action revolver line well into the 20th century, where they developed a extra notch in the cocking mechanism called a safety notch, sometimes referred to as "half-cocked."

The safety notch is a relief cut made in the tumbler at the base of the hammer, that allows the sear to catch and hold the hammer a short distance from the pin or cartridge primer, in a "half-cocked" position. The safety notch works first by allowing the handler to retract the hammer a short distance from the firing pin or primer, so that dropping the firearm on its hammer will not result in an energy transfer to the pin or spur, which could then discharge a chambered cartridge. A second purpose is to allow the sear to "catch" a hammer that is falling when the trigger has not been pulled, such as in cases where a drop jarred the sear loose or when the hammer was not fully cocked before being released. However, a safety notch used to "half-cock" a firearm is an active feature that must be engaged, and does not positively prevent accidental discharges in all cases. A certain amount of manual dexterity and familiarity with a firearm is also required to "half-cock" a firearm; unfamiliarity with how to engage the "half-cock" position can result in accidental discharges. Moreover, safety notch and "half-cock" style safeties are prone to breakage which can result in unintentional discharges leading to accidental discharges.

By the way according to the Sheriff's Office report, this pistol in question was a F.LLI Pietta 1873 .45 LC, which is a direct knockoff of the Colt Peacemaker. Pietta's are easier to come by than an actual 1873 Colt Peacemaker especially era specific. That and they are notoriously cheap, you can pick Model 1873 Pietta's up for $350-$400 all day long. Still a single action revolver and they have no safety notch or half-cocked position to act as any type of mechanical safety.

By the way, there is a legend that cowboys had a rolled up bill in the sixth chamber to pay the undertaker in case they die. This is, of course, a myth, because refusing to use your sixth slot at a shootout would be stupid. Also, that bill would likely burn pretty quickly from all the hot gasses escaping the cylinder.
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eric76 said:

aggiehawg said:

eric76 said:

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All of the other times he was practicing the cross draw, the gun never fired. So what did he do differently and why?
If only one live round was in there and the rest of the rest of the chambers were either empty or had dummy rounds, he could have drew it, aimed, and pulled the trigger several times without it firing a shot.
Wait, the AD Halls said there were three what he thought were "dummy rounds" in the gun. And guns are not loaded with more blank rounds than the scene calls for, according to experienced armorers.

But they weren't filming at the time. No reason for blanks, nor dummy bullets to be even in there in the first place.
It was one screwed up film set with an armorer who was not up to the job, an assistant director who didn't give a crap about safety, and an actor who probably none of us have care much about.

In any event, the point was that he could have drawn the revolver while cocking it in the process, aimed, and shot without it doing anything for up to 5 times without it discharging.

Sure, that's not the way it was supposed to happen, but if it went the way it was supposed to happen, the revolver would have been unloaded and nobody would have died.
Nobody should have died?? Man are you on your on Trayvon dig again. Did not work then, wont work now.
What the hell are you talking about? Is it past your bedtime?

If they had acted responsbily, the revolver would have been unloaded and so nobody WOULD have died.

Look. You specifically asked how it might have occurred that he could have practiced a few draws without the revolver firing a shot:

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All of the other times he was practicing the cross draw, the gun never fired. So what did he do differently and why?
Remember that?

I described a way that it could have happened, as did TexasRebel. I would have thought you could understand that.

Then you responded with:
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But they weren't filming at the time. No reason for blanks, nor dummy bullets to be even in there in the first place.

I took that to mean that you were stating the obvious and I agreed with you to some extent and reitterated that he was practicing. Sure there shouldn't have been blanks. Dummy bullets would be useful in some cases since large amounts of dry firing can potentially damage the firing pin in many weapons.

And now you came up with this ***** What happened to your reading comprehension?

Once again this wives-tale needs to be put to rest, because dry-firing most centerfire rifles and handguns is perfectly safe once you have made certain they are unloaded and pointed in a safe direction. This weapon in question was a centerfire weapon. However, excessively dry-firing a rimfire gun is a bad idea. Repeated dry-firing of a rimfire can eventually peen the firing pin, dulling it and causing misfires.
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So then, it is an established fact that dry firing this particular model very much is a good idea.

Okay.
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This gun, though very real and functional, is still a movie prop. Nobody cares if dry firing is "bad" for it.

If 6 dry fires proves all 6 rounds (necessary for a camera facing shot with a revolver) are non-functioning dummy rounds then its a good practice in my book.

Obviously can't do that with blanks.
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All i see is an effort by the media to clear Baldwin of any and all wrongdoing.
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The weapon was one of three that the film's armorer, Hannah Gutierrez-Reed, had set on a cart outside the wooden church where the scene was being acted, according to the court records. Assistant director Dave Halls grabbed the weapon from the cart and brought it inside and handed it to Baldwin, unaware that it was loaded with live rounds according to Halls, the lead detective wrote in the descriptor section of the search warrant application.
Gutierrez-reed removed the spent shell casing and five other rounds from the weapon after the shooting, and she turned the unloaded weapon over to police when they arrived, according to what the court records say.

This is reportedly the actual Pistol tagged for evidence according to AP

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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

Did woke ideology cause or contribute to this accident?

If so, what percentage?
Probably. Had to have a female armorer who was unqualified/inept. And a white heterosexual male movie star who is the human embodiment of woke.
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eric76 said:

So then, it is an established fact that dry firing this particular model very much is a good idea.

Okay.
Or any centerfire weapon
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sicandtiredTXN said:


Gutierrez-reed removed the spent shell casing and five other rounds from the weapon after the shooting


So is it now confirmed this was a 6 cylinder revolver loaded with 6 live bullets?

If so, you can rule out plinking and accidently leaving a lone round or 2 in the gun. Unless you are planning to carry or stow away for home or vehicle self defense, there is no other reason to load. You don't fully load a gun "accidently" after plinking or packing up at range.

Hopefully the media will stop using irrelevant terms like "misfire" "prop" and "blanks".
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The Brazos Kid said:

Not sure if this has been posted yet, but I'll bet cash money on this coming to fruition:

The person holding a gun is responsible for it and any accidents or actions taken. I don't care if they are acting and have a dozen people working with them who have handled it, loaded it, checked it, etc.

The person who pulls the trigger should always know for sure and should always be held responsible. If they can't accept that, they should not hold a gun. Even if acting. You are responsible for the weapon you hold. Period. No excuses.

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The Brazos Kid said:

Not sure if this has been posted yet, but I'll bet cash money on this coming to fruition:

The coming SNL skit will be hilarious.
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eric76 said:

So then, it is an established fact that dry firing this particular model very much is a good idea.

Okay.
It is a very good idea to practice using a weapon by utilizing dry firing drills, it is an especially good idea if you plan on drawing it from a holster.

HTH
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The Brazos Kid said:

Not sure if this has been posted yet, but I'll bet cash money on this coming to fruition:



If that post had a date prior to the shooting it might be a big deal. Of course after Oct 21, the odds that this will transition to Baldwin becoming poster boy for gun control is like 99.9%. But not just him, the media will leverage this to push the idea that guns are inherently dangerous. An accident by a leftist is perfect opportunity to blame an inanimate object and ban it outside the set.

The media just has to get out of the "prop" and "blanks" goaltending phase. Then it will be full bore "guns are dangerous" "guns accidently kill" etc.
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According to the script that was co-written by Alec Baldwin and director Joel Souza, the script's third act included a scene featuring Lucas (Brady Noon) and Harland Rust (Baldwin) taking cover in a church after Rust has been gravely injured. Lucas leaves in search of help, but their enemies Wood (Jensen Ackles), Drum (Swen Temmel) and Miller (Travis Hammer) are hot on his tail.

Fenton Lang (Travis Fimmel) enters the church, shooting one person with a shot that knocks him off his feet. The second shot destroys the livery door. Lucas takes off running but meanwhile, inside the church, a shootout ensues that tears the building apart.

Wood and his men begin firing guns at Rust, shredding the church pew in front of him.

Miller scrambles, firing wildly. Wood and Drum fire their weapons as Rust hits the floor and rolls under pews. Out the other side, the men are staggering, their guns barking as they fire at each other. In the midst of gunfire, Rust forces Wood and Drum to take cover. Rust, moving backward in the middle of unrelenting fire, makes it out a door.

This was the scene that Baldwin was rehearsing his quick draw technique when he shot and killed cinematographer Halyna Hutchins and wounded director Joel Souza.

After lunch, Baldwin, Souza, cinematographer Halyna Hutchins and camera operator Reid Russell began rehearsing the scene in the old wooden church. At the time, the cameras were not rolling. Souza later told the detective that Baldwin was sitting in a pew "practicing a cross draw" when Souza heard "what sounded like a whip and then loud pop," according to the court documents for obtaining the warrants.

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From the picture of that armorer lady, she's clearly a flaming lib. I wonder if politics had anything to do with her hire? Most gun people are conservative, so maybe Baldwin, hating everything about conservatives, hired the only liberal gun lover in the state for political reasons, but she was a clueless idiot (as are all liberals). It could explain why they never fired her. How could they do that and dare replace her with a conservative?
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thirdcoast said:

sicandtiredTXN said:


Gutierrez-reed removed the spent shell casing and five other rounds from the weapon after the shooting


So is it now confirmed this was a 6 cylinder revolver loaded with 6 live bullets?

If so, you can rule out plinking and accidently leaving a lone round or 2 in the gun. Unless you are planning to carry or stow away for home or vehicle self defense, there is no other reason to load. You don't fully load a gun "accidently" after plinking or packing up at range.

Hopefully the media will stop using irrelevant terms like "misfire" "prop" and "blanks".


Yes, if you were plinking, it would most likely either be full of fired casings or empty.

Also, why would she do that or be allowed to do that?
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aTmAg said:

From the picture of that armorer lady, she's clearly a flaming lib. I wonder if politics had anything to do with her hire? Most gun people are conservative, so maybe Baldwin, hating everything about conservatives, hired the only liberal gun lover in the state for political reasons, but she was a clueless idiot (as are all liberals). It could explain why they never fired her. How could they do that and dare replace her with a conservative?
I think it had more to do with the budget of the production and the salary demanded by an experienced, competent armorer.
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sicandtiredTXN said:

According to the script that was co-written by Alec Baldwin and director Joel Souza, the script's third act included a scene featuring Lucas (Brady Noon) and Harland Rust (Baldwin) taking cover in a church after Rust has been gravely injured. Lucas leaves in search of help, but their enemies Wood (Jensen Ackles), Drum (Swen Temmel) and Miller (Travis Hammer) are hot on his tail.

Fenton Lang (Travis Fimmel) enters the church, shooting one person with a shot that knocks him off his feet. The second shot destroys the livery door. Lucas takes off running but meanwhile, inside the church, a shootout ensues that tears the building apart.

Wood and his men begin firing guns at Rust, shredding the church pew in front of him.

Miller scrambles, firing wildly. Wood and Drum fire their weapons as Rust hits the floor and rolls under pews. Out the other side, the men are staggering, their guns barking as they fire at each other. In the midst of gunfire, Rust forces Wood and Drum to take cover. Rust, moving backward in the middle of unrelenting fire, makes it out a door.

This was the scene that Baldwin was rehearsing his quick draw technique when he shot and killed cinematographer Halyna Hutchins and wounded director Joel Souza.

After lunch, Baldwin, Souza, cinematographer Halyna Hutchins and camera operator Reid Russell began rehearsing the scene in the old wooden church. At the time, the cameras were not rolling. Souza later told the detective that Baldwin was sitting in a pew "practicing a cross draw" when Souza heard "what sounded like a whip and then loud pop," according to the court documents for obtaining the warrants.




Is it not amazing the level of detail we are receiving about this story?
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eric76 said:

Once when I was a kid, I was walking by a farm building carrying a World War II era single shot .22 by the stock, loaded and with the safety on, hands nowhere near the trigger, when I jostled it and it went off and fired into the farm building.

I immediately took it back to the house, put it up, and told everyone what it did. To the best of my knowledge, nobody has tried shooting it since then.


There are some firearms out there with floating firing pins that will do this. SKS is one of them. Some older guns will do it. My great aunt passed away in 1984. When we were cleaning out the farm house she lived in my brother found an old bolt action .22. He figured out that if you tap the butt on the concrete it is enough for the pin to set off the primer and fire it. That gun got put in a safe place and has not been fired since then.

The most dangerous guns are the one we assume are safe and handle carelessly.
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thirdcoast said:

sicandtiredTXN said:


Gutierrez-reed removed the spent shell casing and five other rounds from the weapon after the shooting


So is it now confirmed this was a 6 cylinder revolver loaded with 6 live bullets?

If so, you can rule out plinking and accidently leaving a lone round or 2 in the gun. Unless you are planning to carry or stow away for home or vehicle self defense, there is no other reason to load. You don't fully load a gun "accidently" after plinking or packing up at range.

Hopefully the media will stop using irrelevant terms like "misfire" "prop" and "blanks".
Given the media's general lack of knowledge on proper terminology I don't think anything that's been made public outside of official press releases from law enforcement or court filings should be taken as fact.

I read the above as 1 spent shell casing and 5 other could be anythings. Dummy rounds presumably.

We know they took some of the set guns out shooting. So somewhere there's live ammo for this gun or these weapons. That at least 1 live round was present (1 shot fired), we can assume that there was comingling of live ammunition and inert training/prop rounds or dummy rounds. We also know, from the LA Times article published earlier that there had been previous negligent/accidental discharges of a weapon (same gun or not unknown) on this set in the days prior. Were these ND/ADs fully functional projectiles or were they blanks? Again, we don't know.

How much was comingled? We have no way of knowing just yet. Was this 1 errant round or is there a cart behind that church building with loose rounds just rolling around totally mixed up? Again, we have no way of knowing.
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sicandtiredTXN said:

The weapon was one of three that the film's armorer, Hannah Gutierrez-Reed, had set on a cart outside the wooden church where the scene was being acted, according to the court records. Assistant director Dave Halls grabbed the weapon from the cart and brought it inside and handed it to Baldwin, unaware that it was loaded with live rounds according to Halls, the lead detective wrote in the descriptor section of the search warrant application.
Gutierrez-reed removed the spent shell casing and five other rounds from the weapon after the shooting, and she turned the unloaded weapon over to police when they arrived, according to what the court records say.

This is reportedly the actual Pistol tagged for evidence according to AP


And whatever butterfingered mouth breather is holding that weapon is a Grade A moron! KEEP YOUR BOOGER HOOK OFF THE BANG SWITCH UNTIL YOU ARE READY TO FIRE YOUR WEAPON!!!
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Tibbers said:

sicandtiredTXN said:

According to the script that was co-written by Alec Baldwin and director Joel Souza, the script's third act included a scene featuring Lucas (Brady Noon) and Harland Rust (Baldwin) taking cover in a church after Rust has been gravely injured. Lucas leaves in search of help, but their enemies Wood (Jensen Ackles), Drum (Swen Temmel) and Miller (Travis Hammer) are hot on his tail.

Fenton Lang (Travis Fimmel) enters the church, shooting one person with a shot that knocks him off his feet. The second shot destroys the livery door. Lucas takes off running but meanwhile, inside the church, a shootout ensues that tears the building apart.

Wood and his men begin firing guns at Rust, shredding the church pew in front of him.

Miller scrambles, firing wildly. Wood and Drum fire their weapons as Rust hits the floor and rolls under pews. Out the other side, the men are staggering, their guns barking as they fire at each other. In the midst of gunfire, Rust forces Wood and Drum to take cover. Rust, moving backward in the middle of unrelenting fire, makes it out a door.

This was the scene that Baldwin was rehearsing his quick draw technique when he shot and killed cinematographer Halyna Hutchins and wounded director Joel Souza.

After lunch, Baldwin, Souza, cinematographer Halyna Hutchins and camera operator Reid Russell began rehearsing the scene in the old wooden church. At the time, the cameras were not rolling. Souza later told the detective that Baldwin was sitting in a pew "practicing a cross draw" when Souza heard "what sounded like a whip and then loud pop," according to the court documents for obtaining the warrants.




Is it not amazing the level of detail we are receiving about this story?
Quite a few on this thread have been saying things like they can see the press covering for Baldwin, and I find that laughable. Baldwin has NEVER been a friend to the Press, and there are over a dozen of documented cases where he's assaulted bothe normal press and paparazzi. Baldwin is an a**hole in real life and that's a certainty.

Also New Mexico isn't going to be scapegoated on how this case is handled by an unfriendly press. They are being very transparent and forthcoming to date. This morning the Sheriff said this is not an accident, it's a criminal investigation and it is scope locked focus on three people, Baldin, Gutierrez-Reed, and Halls

That's how it always should be but of course it's not.
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nortex97 said:

Stat Monitor Repairman said:

Did woke ideology cause or contribute to this accident?

If so, what percentage?
Probably. Had to have a female armorer who was unqualified/inept. And a white heterosexual male movie star who is the human embodiment of woke.

Yeah, that's my thinking. You make the bed, you sleep in it.
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torrid said:

aTmAg said:

From the picture of that armorer lady, she's clearly a flaming lib. I wonder if politics had anything to do with her hire? Most gun people are conservative, so maybe Baldwin, hating everything about conservatives, hired the only liberal gun lover in the state for political reasons, but she was a clueless idiot (as are all liberals). It could explain why they never fired her. How could they do that and dare replace her with a conservative?
I think it had more to do with the budget of the production and the salary demanded by an experienced, competent armorer.
Budget concerns spurred Baldwin's production company to merge two separate jobs (with two separate safety functions) into one position. That is why experienced armorers turned down the job. The production company was removing gun safety layers of having multiple people inspecting weapons before they were in the hands of an actor/actress.

It might be manageable to have an armorer also serve as prop master if there is only one scene that involves a firearm (think when Anne Archer shoots Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction) but in a Western with that many guns involved? Too much for one person to do.
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torrid said:

aTmAg said:

From the picture of that armorer lady, she's clearly a flaming lib. I wonder if politics had anything to do with her hire? Most gun people are conservative, so maybe Baldwin, hating everything about conservatives, hired the only liberal gun lover in the state for political reasons, but she was a clueless idiot (as are all liberals). It could explain why they never fired her. How could they do that and dare replace her with a conservative?
I think it had more to do with the budget of the production and the salary demanded by an experienced, competent armorer.
Maybe, but surely there are 1000s of inexperienced conservatives in California. How many pink haired libs gun nuts are there? Can't be nearly as many. Yet one was working on this set.
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

The biggest thing for me is that she was reprimanded several times for popping off rounds without warning.

Who does that?




Desk pop?

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aTmAg said:

torrid said:

aTmAg said:

From the picture of that armorer lady, she's clearly a flaming lib. I wonder if politics had anything to do with her hire? Most gun people are conservative, so maybe Baldwin, hating everything about conservatives, hired the only liberal gun lover in the state for political reasons, but she was a clueless idiot (as are all liberals). It could explain why they never fired her. How could they do that and dare replace her with a conservative?
I think it had more to do with the budget of the production and the salary demanded by an experienced, competent armorer.
Maybe, but surely there are 1000s of inexperienced conservatives in California. How many pink haired libs gun nuts are there? Can't be nearly as many. Yet one was working on this set.
Her father is a respected Hollywood armorer. So she's a well connected pink hair.

Everything else is pure conjecture, though the t-shirt she was wearing in pics posted earlier would support that her cheese is not resting on her cracker.
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Kenneth_2003 said:

aTmAg said:

torrid said:

aTmAg said:

From the picture of that armorer lady, she's clearly a flaming lib. I wonder if politics had anything to do with her hire? Most gun people are conservative, so maybe Baldwin, hating everything about conservatives, hired the only liberal gun lover in the state for political reasons, but she was a clueless idiot (as are all liberals). It could explain why they never fired her. How could they do that and dare replace her with a conservative?
I think it had more to do with the budget of the production and the salary demanded by an experienced, competent armorer.
Maybe, but surely there are 1000s of inexperienced conservatives in California. How many pink haired libs gun nuts are there? Can't be nearly as many. Yet one was working on this set.
Her father is a respected Hollywood armorer. So she's a well connected pink hair.

Everything else is pure conjecture, though the t-shirt she was wearing in pics posted earlier would support that her cheese is not resting on her cracker.
I wonder if pink hair is her marketing shtick. The worlds most lib armorer.
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In her own words, Hannah Gutierrez-Reed expressed self-doubt about her experience and whether she was qualified in a podcast last month. Hannah Gutierrez-Reed said she hadn't been sure if she was ready for her last job, on "The Old Way" where if reports were true she had all sorts of issues there. Her dad is Thell Reed a legend and well known Hollywood Gun Expert and Armourer, who's worked on big time westerns with lots of gunplay like Tombstone. Maybe she got in on her dads reputation, but in her own words she questioned if she was ready to be the Head Armourer on a Movie Set.

When you're directly responsible for the lives of other especially involving firearms, you shouldn't be questioning yourself if you're ready or not, and still taking the job.
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Two sets, 1 dead camera woman, a wounded asociate director, and more than a handful negligent/accidental discharges of weapons she was either in possession of had loaded... As well as a handful of other weapons handling and loading safety violations

She should be Hollywoods most unemployed pink hair.
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Affirmative action diversity hire?
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aTmAg said:

From the picture of that armorer lady, she's clearly a flaming lib. I wonder if politics had anything to do with her hire? Most gun people are conservative, so maybe Baldwin, hating everything about conservatives, hired the only liberal gun lover in the state for political reasons, but she was a clueless idiot (as are all liberals). It could explain why they never fired her. How could they do that and dare replace her with a conservative?
He hired cheap, they where trying to do this movie on the cheap. He got what he paid for
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Kozmozag said:

Affirmative action diversity hire?
Saving money hire
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Kenneth_2003 said:

sicandtiredTXN said:

The weapon was one of three that the film's armorer, Hannah Gutierrez-Reed, had set on a cart outside the wooden church where the scene was being acted, according to the court records. Assistant director Dave Halls grabbed the weapon from the cart and brought it inside and handed it to Baldwin, unaware that it was loaded with live rounds according to Halls, the lead detective wrote in the descriptor section of the search warrant application.
Gutierrez-reed removed the spent shell casing and five other rounds from the weapon after the shooting, and she turned the unloaded weapon over to police when they arrived, according to what the court records say.

This is reportedly the actual Pistol tagged for evidence according to AP


And whatever butterfingered mouth breather is holding that weapon is a Grade A moron! KEEP YOUR BOOGER HOOK OFF THE BANG SWITCH UNTIL YOU ARE READY TO FIRE YOUR WEAPON!!!


Agreed, but looking at his hand placement he could be releasing the hammer. I believe that on some revolvers you have to hold the hammer while pulling the trigger to put the hammer down.
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The Brazos Kid said:

Let the conspiracy theories begin…

 
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