Alec Baldwin may be in some hot water

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TexasRebel said:

Now the armorer is blaming the supplier.

Just a big game of blame somebody else.

It was her job to inspect upon delivery and again upon loading.

Inspecting six individual cartridges is not a burden.
I saw that this morning.

From https://www.cbsnews.com/news/alec-baldwin-rust-shooting-armorer-hannah-gutierrez-reed-lawsuit-ammunition-supplier/

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"Hannah and the entire Rust movie crew relied on the Defendants' misrepresentation that they provided only dummy ammunition," the suit asserts. "In so doing, Defendants created a dangerous condition on the movie set, unbeknownst to Hannah Gutierrez Reed, which caused a foreseeable risk of injury to numerous people."

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The suit alleges Kenney had worked on another film shortly before "Rust" began production, during which he and Gutierrez Reed's father, Thell Reed himself a veteran armorer took actors to a gun range to practice with live rounds. Kenney then took the remaining live rounds, which included "reloaded 'live' rounds" with the logo of a company called Starline Brass, from that training session back with him, according to the suit.

"Starline Brass is a company that produces ammo brass casings, that can be made into dummy, blank or live ammunition by anyone with the knowledge and equipment to do so," the suit reads. "The company does not itself make live rounds. Anyone with access to the dummy rounds could convert them into live rounds with the proper reloading equipment."

And she said that she was not told that Baldwin was training with it:

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"Hannah told [assistant director Dave] Halls to let her know if Baldwin came back so that she could come back inside the Church and re-inspect the weapon and provide it to Baldwin herself as she had done every time before on set," the suit says. But, the suit contends, that didn't happen.

"Had Hannah been called back in, she would have re-inspected the weapon, and every round again, and instructed Baldwin on safe gun practice with the cross draw, as was her standard practice."

Also, from https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/film-armorer-blames-ammo-supplier-deadly-rust-shooting-82236741

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The lawsuit adds new details to the chain of custody for guns and ammunition on the "Rust" set on Oct. 21, describing the appearance of a new box of ammunition presumed to be harmless dummy rounds with no explosive shortly before a revolver was loaded and passed to Baldwin.

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It states that authorities found on set "a suspected seven live rounds distributed inside the ammo box, on the ammo cart and in the bandoliers."

The lawsuit also accuses Kenney of inserting himself in the investigations and attempting to implicate Gutierrez Reed.

Authorities recovered hundreds of rounds of ammunition at the "Rust" movie set a mix of blanks, dummy rounds and what appeared to be live rounds.


What a mess.
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describing the appearance of a new box of ammunition presumed to be harmless dummy rounds
Hmmm.

Nice.
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Serious question. Do yall think this sociopath is capable of actually feeling bad about what happened? I would not be surprised if any outward expressions of sadness and remorse are totally feigned.
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And Alec Baldwin still not letting them see his phone records.

That ain't right.

If you don't have anything to hide this isn't an issue.
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Is Baldwin losing it?

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He needs to go to jail just for being Alec Baldwin
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captkirk said:

Is Baldwin losing it?




What's the back story here on the Sheriff and that kindergarten sketch?
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captkirk said:

Is Baldwin losing it?


I have it on good authority that as soon as President Biden saw that selfie he nominated Alec Baldwin as new head of the National Institute of Health.
We really need to rewrite our laws concerning libel and slander.
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annie88 said:

And Alec Baldwin still not letting them see his phone records.

That ain't right.

If you don't have anything to hide this isn't an issue.



Wut. 4th.
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So this guy can organize a damage control interview on national TV, but can't wipe his phone before handing it over?

I don't think its Baldwin's social media posts or phone that are gonna hurt him. I think it's the other devices and witnesses on set that investigators just need to get Baldwin to lie about.
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He needs to sit at the feet of Hillary Clinton. As a last resort always bring out the sledgehammer.
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sonnysixkiller said:

He needs to go to jail just for being Alec Baldwin


Karma is indeed a *****.
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Jay Reimenschneider said:

annie88 said:

And Alec Baldwin still not letting them see his phone records.

That ain't right.

If you don't have anything to hide this isn't an issue.



Wut. 4th.


This isn't unreasonable. That's the key point.

The main claims he didn't even pull the trigger, he did, and he said he'll do anything to help out the investigation but he won't let them see his phone records? That's ****ed up.
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"Dummy rounds" have cases drilled so they cannot hold powder.
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TexasRebel said:

"Dummy rounds" have cases drilled so they cannot hold powder.
Some do, at least. I wouldn't swear that all do, though.

I know that some dummy rounds have brightly colored "projectiles" that are meant to indicate that it is a dummy round.



I don't see any holes drilled into them, though.
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Through the primer.

Those would never work on a movie set though.
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They do kind of look someone might be trying to shoot lipstick.

The dummies i've seen with holes drilled through were on the sides.
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The intent of dummy rounds is to look realistic in a revolver for a camera shot from the front. So they are going to have a realistic looking projectile

The rounds pictured above are snap caps to practice dry firing
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He finally turned over his cell phone.

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Alec Baldwin has turned his cellphone over to New Mexico authorities a month after a search warrant for the device was issued as a part of the investigation into the fatal shooting on the "Rust" movie set, officials said.

The Santa Fe District Attorney's Office told ABC News Friday it now has the actor's cellphone.
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The update comes a day after the Santa Fe County Sheriff's Office issued a statement saying that the phone had not yet been turned over to authorities.
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The search warrant for Baldwin's phone was approved by a Santa Fe County magistrate judge on Dec. 16. Baldwin's attorney acknowledged receipt of the warrant, and the Santa Fe County District Attorney's Office was negotiating with Baldwin's lawyer to retrieve the phone, according to the sheriff's office.

Authorities said they want to look at text messages sent from the phone as part of its investigation into the on-set shooting in Santa Fe last year that killed the film's cinematographer, Halyna Hutchins, and wounded its director, Joel Souza.

Investigators are also seeking to seize photos and videos, emails, internet browser histories, GPS data and more, according to the warrant.
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The actor added that he and his attorney were following a process required when one state requests information or evidence from a subject who lives in another state.

"It's a process that takes time. They have to specify what exactly they want. They just can't go through your phone and take, you know, your photos or your love letters to your wife or whatever," Baldwin said. "But, of course, we are 1,000% going to comply with all that. We're, you know, perfectly fine with that."
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aggiehawg said:

He finally turned over his cell phone.

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Alec Baldwin has turned his cellphone over to New Mexico authorities a month after a search warrant for the device was issued as a part of the investigation into the fatal shooting on the "Rust" movie set, officials said.

The Santa Fe District Attorney's Office told ABC News Friday it now has the actor's cellphone.
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The update comes a day after the Santa Fe County Sheriff's Office issued a statement saying that the phone had not yet been turned over to authorities.
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The search warrant for Baldwin's phone was approved by a Santa Fe County magistrate judge on Dec. 16. Baldwin's attorney acknowledged receipt of the warrant, and the Santa Fe County District Attorney's Office was negotiating with Baldwin's lawyer to retrieve the phone, according to the sheriff's office.

Authorities said they want to look at text messages sent from the phone as part of its investigation into the on-set shooting in Santa Fe last year that killed the film's cinematographer, Halyna Hutchins, and wounded its director, Joel Souza.

Investigators are also seeking to seize photos and videos, emails, internet browser histories, GPS data and more, according to the warrant.
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The actor added that he and his attorney were following a process required when one state requests information or evidence from a subject who lives in another state.

"It's a process that takes time. They have to specify what exactly they want. They just can't go through your phone and take, you know, your photos or your love letters to your wife or whatever," Baldwin said. "But, of course, we are 1,000% going to comply with all that. We're, you know, perfectly fine with that."
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What are the odds it's had a full factory reset first?
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They'll know that, if it has. They can get the records directly from the provider anyway. But if he has encrypted it and doesn't give them the password? Then what? Seriously doubt he would try that nor that his lawyers would let him.

But this is still in lib haven Santa Fe. Doubt Baldwin gets charged criminally.
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If it was wiped/reset after he was advised of the warrant, I'm pretty sure that's tampering with evidence.

The phone company will have records that messages were sent and calls made and received, but they may or my not retain the contents of the messages.
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aggiehawg said:

They'll know that, if it has. They can get the records directly from the provider anyway. But if he has encrypted it and doesn't give them the password? Then what? Seriously doubt he would try that nor that his lawyers would let him.

But this is still in lib haven Santa Fe. Doubt Baldwin gets charged criminally.
As far as his lawyers go, I'm pretty sure they would have also advised him and his idiot wife not to post all those videos either. Baldwin's arrogant ass thinks he's the smartest person in the room. He likely thinks just like Hillary (like with a cloth?) and thinks that he will get away with anything.

The Feds could easily get it from his provider, likely already have it but the locals would have a much harder time.

As far as tampering not sure about how dedicated this prosecutor really is. The delays and lack of effort so far isn't real promising that she will do anything actually.
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This is how I picture Alex Baldwin in real life
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Goodnight Irene said:



This is how I picture Alex Baldwin in real life
You know he really always has been a very good actor.

He had a really good sense of humor and then he went bat **** crazy.

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Pity the clerk that has to go through that phone and put up with the narcissist text messages and likely 100s of d!ck picks he has stored on there.

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I want to see the texts with George Stephanopoulos pre interview.
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aggiehawg said:

They'll know that, if it has. They can get the records directly from the provider anyway. But if he has encrypted it and doesn't give them the password? Then what? Seriously doubt he would try that nor that his lawyers would let him.

But this is still in lib haven Santa Fe. Doubt Baldwin gets charged criminally.


Yeah I wouldn't think most people wouldn't believe that doing that would erase them. As you said they are on record anyway.
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Goodnight Irene said:



This is how I picture Alex Baldwin in real life



One of my all time favorite movie scenes.

The arrogance is amazing.
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And the hits just keep coming not related to the shooting but just another civil suit against this idiot


https://cowboystatedaily.com/2022/01/18/sisters-widow-of-fallen-wyoming-marine-suing-alec-baldwin-for-instagram-defamation/
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More bad news for Alec Baldwin.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10516039/Family-Halyna-Hutchins-announce-wrongful-death-lawsuit-shot-Alec-Baldwin.html
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BREAKING: 'Reckless and cost-cutting' Alec Baldwin is sued by family of Rust cinematographer Halyna Hutchins for 'unlimited damages' after he accidentally killed her with prop gun blast to her chest on New Mexico set

  • Halyna Hutchins' husband and son are suing Alec Baldwin and others associated with production of Western Rust
  • Lawyers claims 'reckless behavior and cost-cutting' led to cinematographer's death in Santa Fe, New Mexico, in October 2021
  • Complaint alleges Baldwin had turned down training for the kind of gun draw he was doing when he shot Hutchins
  • Law firm produced a video that shows animated recreation of the shooting
By SNEJANA FARBEROV FOR DAILYMAIL.COM[url=https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/search.html?s=&authornamef=Snejana+Farberov+For+Dailymail.com][/url]
PUBLISHED: 13:21 EST, 15 February 2022 | UPDATED: 14:45 EST, 15 February 2022


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digital recreation of the shooting incident
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Incredible!
 
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