Iran Has Capitulated to President Trump

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Mac94 said:

TAMUallen said:

Mac94 said:

Rockdoc said:

Mac94 said:

Interesting that Trumps post says that the received 10 point plan the iranians put forward was the basis of the ceasefire. If its the one published... if thats what we're starting with ... Trump definitely blinked.

You gotta start somewhere don't you? Did Trump say he was accepting all 10? I don't think so. Iran is the one teetering on the edge of annialation.


Read the plan. The IRGC gets control of the straits, there is zero about their missile program or.nuke program, includes guarantees we will not attack them again .... if this is what Trump says is a basis for negotiation Trump blinked... he backed down.


You have ZERO idea what actual ceasefire agreement has been made. Keep on gasping and grasping


All o know is the 10point plan that has been published as late as today and Trumps tweet saying that an iranian 10 point plan was a good starting point for negotiation. It might not be whats been reported ... but it might be. What do you have other than hopium?


So would you bash Trump no matter what?
LMCane
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hmm

kind of sounds like the USA won then

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zb008 said:

No, they haven't, more like Trump capitulated to Iran. He lost his own stupid war he started.
I'm sure you also believed Joe Biden was of sound mind and Trump was going to get convicted.
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Im Gipper
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Another failed Tucker Carlson prediction!

I'm Gipper
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zb008 said:

No, they haven't, more like Trump capitulated to Iran. He lost his own stupid war he started.


What a dumba** take…
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Im Gipper said:

rca21978 said:

Agreeing to the Iranian 10 point plan is utter capitulation.


Did we?

Simple "yes" or "no" please.


1. Trump's tweet states that it is a workable basis on which to negotiate.
2. Iran statement indicates POTUS accepted the general framework of Iran's 10 point proposal.

Agreement - maybe; but it sure seems like it.
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Cannot we all be glad that we may be coming to an end with this conflict.
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Gigem314 said:

zb008 said:

No, they haven't, more like Trump capitulated to Iran. He lost his own stupid war he started.
I'm sure you also believed Joe Biden was of sound mind and Trump was going to get convicted.


I think the OP knew he'd attract moths to the flame with a his thread title
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AS A BASIS FOR NEGOTIATIONS
Im Gipper
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rca21978 said:

Im Gipper said:

rca21978 said:

Agreeing to the Iranian 10 point plan is utter capitulation.


Did we?

Simple "yes" or "no" please.


1. Trump's tweet states that it is a workable basis on which to negotiate.
2. Iran statement indicates POTUS accepted the general framework of Iran's 10 point proposal.

Agreement - maybe; but it sure seems like it.



A LOT of words to say "NO"

I'm Gipper
Mac94
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LMCane said:

Mac94 said:

Interesting that Trumps post says that the received 10 point plan the iranians put forward was the basis of the ceasefire. If its the one published... if thats what we're starting with ... Trump definitely blinked.

that is not what Trump's post actually said.

it's what you want to believe.


"We received a 10 point proposal from Iran, and believe it is a workable basis on which to negotiate "

directly from his truth social post. Is he referring to the 10 point plan thsts been published? Thats the question. But it might be. But its there whether you want to pretend it isnt or didnt happen.

MelvinUdall
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I love when the left believes Iran over a US President…it really shows who side they are on.
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Mac94 said:

LMCane said:

Mac94 said:

Interesting that Trumps post says that the received 10 point plan the iranians put forward was the basis of the ceasefire. If its the one published... if thats what we're starting with ... Trump definitely blinked.

that is not what Trump's post actually said.

it's what you want to believe.


"We received a 10 point proposal from Iran, and believe it is a workable basis on which to negotiate "

directly from his truth social post. Is he referring to the 10 point plan thsts been published? Thats the question. But it might be. But its there whether you want to pretend it isnt or didnt happen.




Curious. What could have happened that would lead to you crediting Trump?
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Quote:

NYT: The Iranian 10-point proposal includes a lifting of ALL sanctions placed on Iran by every American administration since the George W. Bush administration.

Quote:

Iran would lift its de facto blockade of the key shipping route through the Strait of Hormuz. Iran would also impose a fee of roughly $2 million per ship that it would split with Oman, which sits across the strait.

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AgResearch said:

Iranians only lie...


Just like how polls were fake/rigged until Dear Leader said otherwise, as long as he says it, the cult will believe it.
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It truly is amazing how crazy Trump makes some people. Today has been a hoot.
Colonel Kurtz
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The truth is probably somewhere in the middle of each side's statements, no?
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Ghost of Bisbee said:

"Victory for Iran" as Iran puts it

Iran keeping enriched uranium is a victory for them.
rca21978
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Have you read the 10 point proposal? Why even use this as a basis for negotiations?

- Pay reparations
- Allow Iran to enrich uranium
- Remove US troops from the region
- Allow Iran to control SOH

If we agree to these terms, why did we even start a war?
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aginlakeway said:

Mac94 said:

LMCane said:

Mac94 said:

Interesting that Trumps post says that the received 10 point plan the iranians put forward was the basis of the ceasefire. If its the one published... if thats what we're starting with ... Trump definitely blinked.

that is not what Trump's post actually said.

it's what you want to believe.


"We received a 10 point proposal from Iran, and believe it is a workable basis on which to negotiate "

directly from his truth social post. Is he referring to the 10 point plan thsts been published? Thats the question. But it might be. But its there whether you want to pretend it isnt or didnt happen.




Curious. What could have happened that would lead to you crediting Trump?


Fair question ... if our published 15 point plan was the starting point for this ceasefire/negotiations it would indicate thst our strategic objectives would probably be met. The fact that Trump said its an Iranian 10 point plan and seeing whats been published about a 10 poi t plan ... not comforting.
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Colonel Kurtz said:

The truth is probably somewhere in the middle of each side's statements, no?


The truth is probably that Iran completely and utterly caved but the agreement is that we don't drag it all over their face for two weeks. We test it out to see if they will play nice and gauge how the Persian resistance plays out within the Islamic Republic during that time.
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LegalDrugPusher said:

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/116365796713313030

Has Israel agreed?
We really need to rewrite our laws concerning libel and slander.
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Colonel Kurtz said:

The truth is probably somewhere in the middle of each side's statements, no?


Probably not, but the left taking Iran's word as gospel is laughable at best.
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rca21978 said:

Have you read the 10 point proposal? Why even use this as a basis for negotiations?

- Pay reparations
- Allow Iran to enrich uranium
- Remove US troops from the region
- Allow Iran to control SOH

If we agree to these terms, why did we even start a war?



Do you read at all with any analysis of what you read or are you going all in on Donald Trump agreeing to everything the Iranians want?
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Dorm 15 said:

Cannot we all be glad that we may be coming to an end with this conflict.


Liberals can't because they want us to go into a full blown war because they hate Trump so much and are rooting against any success for him and for our country's failure
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David_Puddy said:

Dorm 15 said:

Cannot we all be glad that we may be coming to an end with this conflict.


Liberals can't because they want us to go into a full blown war because they hate Trump so much and are rooting against any success for him and for our country's failure


They are trying their damndest to frame a ceasefire into Iran winning. The derangement of the left should be studied.
LMCane
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I am old enough to remember when dumb leftists were claiming there would be MONTHS of oil at $156 a barrel.

$96.44

down 14.62% $16.51 today
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Dorm 15 said:

Cannot we all be glad that we may be coming to an end with this conflict.

Dream on brother. There is a third party involved here and none of their objectives are achieved with this proposed "agreement"
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Trump's tweet - workable basis. Do you see any of Iran's points, especially the 4 listed in my last post, as being workable from a US standpoint?
LMCane
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David_Puddy said:

Dorm 15 said:

Cannot we all be glad that we may be coming to an end with this conflict.


Liberals can't because they want us to go into a full blown war because they hate Trump so much and are rooting against any success for him and for our country's failure


I think the leftists did not want a full blown war because then their friends the Islamic Republic would lose

they wanted a never ending "VIETNAM" of the Straits of Hormuz being closed which would wreck the world economy
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I just can't comprehend it. When Obama was ordering strikes I never once thought about political optics, I just always wanted no American casualties. Insane that we share a country with millions of people rooting for its failure simply because they hate Trump with all of their being.
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rca21978 said:

Trump's tweet - workable basis. Do you see any of Iran's points, especially the 4 listed in my last post, as being workable from a US standpoint?

the Iranians are lying as they have lied for 47 years

NO WAY does Trump accept those ten points

it's just a cover

just like the leftists claimed Trump would never get the Israeli hostages out or that the Gaza War would ever end.
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David_Puddy said:

I just can't comprehend it. When Obama was ordering strikes I never once thought about political optics, I just always wanted no American casualties. Insane that we share a country with millions of people rooting for its failure simply because they hate Trump with all of their being.

not millions

TENS OF MILLIONS of delusional pretty evil leftists who side with Hamas and the Islamic Republic just because they lost to Donald Trump twice
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rca21978 said:

Have you read the 10 point proposal? Why even use this as a basis for negotiations?

- Pay reparations
- Allow Iran to enrich uranium
- Remove US troops from the region
- Allow Iran to control SOH

If we agree to these terms, why did we even start a war?


Trump got completely cooked, and deep fried. We spent hundreds of billions and Iran has significantly expanded its geopolitical power.
 
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