MJ20/20 said:

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Ag with kids said:

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MJ20/20 said:

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President Trump references regime change but isn't Mojtaba's installation merely a fast tracking of the already intended successor to Ali Khamenei? This does not seem like regime change but more an extension of the current regime.

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The Islamic Republic SPECIFICALLY rejected hereditary succession.

The fact that they picked Mojtaba goes directly against the views of the mullahs...

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He's been in line to succeed his father for over two decades. So the islamic republic rejected hereditary succession by practicing hereditarty succession?

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He was NOT in line to succeed his father...

Hereditary succession is viewed as a return to a monarchy...

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The late Ayatollah Khamenei had indicated to close advisers that he did not want his son to succeed him because he did not want the role to become hereditary, according to three senior Iranian officials familiar with Mr. Khamenei and the selection process. They spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive internal issues.

After all, the Islamic revolution in 1979 had toppled a monarchy with the promise to end the hereditary transfer of power and return it to the people.

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Meaningful victory will depend on the outcome of negotiations. For now, the US has not achieved its stated objectives.

"Nearly six weeks of war in Iran have ended, for now, with President Donald Trump claiming victory, but the U.S.-Iran ceasefire locks in a harsh reality: an entrenched, radical government with control over the Strait of Hormuz and a powerful lever over global energy markets and Gulf rivals, analysts say."

"What did the U.S./Israeli war actually achieve?" asked Gerges. "Regime change in Tehran? No. The surrender of the Islamic Republic? No. Containment of Iran's stockpile of highly enriched uranium? No. An end to Tehran's support for its regional allies? No."

Defense News article: VICTORY?

Iran has told mediators it will be limiting the number of ships crossing the Strait of Hormuz to around 12 per day and impose tolls under the ceasefire, per WSJ.

This is a sharp reversal from last night's statements from President Trump claiming a "complete opening" of the Strait of Hormuz.

Today, just 4 ships have passed through the Strait of Hormuz, the fewest of any day in April so far.

The US is still pushing publicly for a free and open strait, but Iran is "not showing a willingness to loosen its grip."

Watch their actions not their words. You know better than that. Khomeini also promised rights for women, religious freedoms, and democratic represtation. Then can verbally be against hereditary secession all they want but its what they just did. Iranians and ny times are about equally trustworthy.

Didn't they do it because everyone else was dead? Or was he always the heir apparent?

Heir apparent since at least mid 2000's.

Thank you!

PJYoung said:

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Iran has told mediators it will be limiting the number of ships crossing the Strait of Hormuz to around 12 per day and impose tolls under the ceasefire, per WSJ.

This is a sharp reversal from last night's statements from President Trump claiming a "complete opening" of the Strait of Hormuz.

Today, just 4 ships have passed through the Strait of Hormuz, the fewest of any day in April so far.

The US is still pushing publicly for a free and open strait, but Iran is "not showing a willingness to loosen its grip."

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The world is gonna need to get tired of this, not just us.

I don't want to state what I think needs to happen to Iran if they keep this up.

GeorgiAg said:

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The world is gonna need to get tired of this, not just us.

I don't want to state what I think needs to happen to Iran if they keep this up.

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It seems Trump wants to do this as a joint venture.

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Meanwhile, a senior Iranian official told Reuters that Iran could open the strait in a way that is "limited, under Iran's control," on Thursday or Friday before a meeting with U.S. officials.
Trump on Wednesday said he is considering the formation of a "joint venture" with Iran to set up tolls in the Strait of Hormuz.

"We're thinking of doing it as a joint venture," the president told ABC News's Jonathan Karl. "It's a way of securing it also securing it from lots of other people. It's a beautiful thing."

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https://thehill.com/policy/international/5821343-trump-us-iran-ceasefire-deal-joint-venture-strait-of-hormuz/

AgDev01 said:

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GeorgiAg said:

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The world is gonna need to get tired of this, not just us.

I don't want to state what I think needs to happen to Iran if they keep this up.

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It seems Trump wants to do this as a joint venture.

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Meanwhile, a senior Iranian official told Reuters that Iran could open the strait in a way that is "limited, under Iran's control," on Thursday or Friday before a meeting with U.S. officials.
Trump on Wednesday said he is considering the formation of a "joint venture" with Iran to set up tolls in the Strait of Hormuz.

"We're thinking of doing it as a joint venture," the president told ABC News's Jonathan Karl. "It's a way of securing it also securing it from lots of other people. It's a beautiful thing."

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https://thehill.com/policy/international/5821343-trump-us-iran-ceasefire-deal-joint-venture-strait-of-hormuz/

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Wow. Trump loves tariffs. Why not a ship tax? Panama Canal next.

MJ20/20 said:

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Heir apparent since at least mid 2000's.

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Link to this?

https://unherd.com/2026/04/mojtaba-khamenei-stooge-of-the-revolutionary-guards/?edition=us

It's a long article but, on a quick search, it does a decent job tracking Mojtaba's rise and when it started gaining traction. It also references your correct depiction of the reformist disdain of hereditary sucession in the islamic republic that ultimately lost out to the Supreme Leader as he was a direct conduit to Allah.

What do we know? What did they make up or assume?

MJ20/20 said:

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https://unherd.com/2026/04/mojtaba-khamenei-stooge-of-the-revolutionary-guards/?edition=us

It's a long article but, on a quick search, it does a decent job tracking Mojtaba's rise and when it started gaining traction. It also references your correct depiction of the reformist disdain of hereditary sucession in the islamic republic that ultimately lost out to the Supreme Leader as he was a direct conduit to Allah.

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Thank you for an article that is nothing more that just a whole lot of speculation presented as fact...

Gordo14 said:

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Rockdoc said:

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You want to wait a while and see what happens or do you want to continue rooting for Iran? Or I guess I should say against Trump.

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Y'all are so pathetic. I want what's best for America. You want what's best for Kim Jong-Trump. Sorry it hurts your feelings that we didn't achieve the ability to impose political consequences on Iran - what capitulation would look like. But I live in the real world, not fantasyland.

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Yeah, just imagine how things would be if kamala had won the election!!!

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Gordo14 said:

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Rockdoc said:

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You want to wait a while and see what happens or do you want to continue rooting for Iran? Or I guess I should say against Trump.

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Y'all are so pathetic. I want what's best for America. You want what's best for Kim Jong-Trump. Sorry it hurts your feelings that we didn't achieve the ability to impose political consequences on Iran - what capitulation would look like. But I live in the real world, not fantasyland.

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Yeah, just imagine how things would be if kamala had won the election!!!

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I don't see these as one and the same. I can be completely against what Trump is doing and also not want Kamala in office. I made my decision on Election Day and given the 2 options it was a very easy choice and one I would make again today.

Queso1 said:

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What do we know? What did they make up or assume?

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The entire post

Ag with kids said:

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MJ20/20 said:

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https://unherd.com/2026/04/mojtaba-khamenei-stooge-of-the-revolutionary-guards/?edition=us
It's a long article but, on a quick search, it does a decent job tracking Mojtaba's rise and when it started gaining traction. It also references your correct depiction of the reformist disdain of hereditary sucession in the islamic republic that ultimately lost out to the Supreme Leader as he was a direct conduit to Allah.

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Thank you for an article that is nothing more that just a whole lot of speculation presented as fact...

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That's rich coming from someone that quoted the ny f'n times.

Mission creep.

Woods Ag said:

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All of Trumps advisors were to some degree against this.

Iran's ability to hold the straight doesn't take much. It's not a terribly difficult task. The mere threat of missiles, mines, drone, and pirate attacks is enough to keep insurers away. Iran doesn't need to go on the offensive. They just need to dig in and live and that alone affects the entire world and weakens us. The longer this goes on the more the rest of the world will turn on us.

This was a mishaps. Trump trusted Bibi instead of the head of the CIA and Rubio and now we're in a mess and I don't think there is an off ramp that allows us to save face to anyone other than the staunchest Trump supporter. What does he do? Bomb their power plants? He'll unite the entire Iranian populace along with many in the world screaming war crimes.

****ing utter disaster. A backhand to all of us that voted for him.

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Keep reading the left's propaganda. I have only read about your claims in opinion pieces by leftist scribes...

Sourced from Jonathan Swan and Maggie Haberman. LOLOL.

See:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/vance-rubio-and-wiles-iran-war-what-iran-war-don-t-look-at-me/ar-AA20sgc3

Woods Ag said:

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bobbranco said:

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Woods Ag said:

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All of Trumps advisors were to some degree against this.

Iran's ability to hold the straight doesn't take much. It's not a terribly difficult task. The mere threat of missiles, mines, drone, and pirate attacks is enough to keep insurers away. Iran doesn't need to go on the offensive. They just need to dig in and live and that alone affects the entire world and weakens us. The longer this goes on the more the rest of the world will turn on us.

This was a mishaps. Trump trusted Bibi instead of the head of the CIA and Rubio and now we're in a mess and I don't think there is an off ramp that allows us to save face to anyone other than the staunchest Trump supporter. What does he do? Bomb their power plants? He'll unite the entire Iranian populace along with many in the world screaming war crimes.

****ing utter disaster. A backhand to all of us that voted for him.

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Keep reading the left's propaganda. I have only read about your claims in opinion pieces by leftist scribes...

Sourced from Jonathan Swan and Maggie Haberman. LOLOL.

See:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/vance-rubio-and-wiles-iran-war-what-iran-war-don-t-look-at-me/ar-AA20sgc3

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I try to read and listen to various sources. Some left, some right. Is Joe Kent a left propagandist?

The funny thing is there are democrats and republicans both for and against this war. What do you do with the democrats that are for this war? Are they right propagandists?

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Joe Kent is a traitorous POS repeating Iranian propaganda.

Also, the only Democrat backing the Iran war is a PA senator.

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bobbranco said:

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Woods Ag said:

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bobbranco said:

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Woods Ag said:

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All of Trumps advisors were to some degree against this.

Iran's ability to hold the straight doesn't take much. It's not a terribly difficult task. The mere threat of missiles, mines, drone, and pirate attacks is enough to keep insurers away. Iran doesn't need to go on the offensive. They just need to dig in and live and that alone affects the entire world and weakens us. The longer this goes on the more the rest of the world will turn on us.

This was a mishaps. Trump trusted Bibi instead of the head of the CIA and Rubio and now we're in a mess and I don't think there is an off ramp that allows us to save face to anyone other than the staunchest Trump supporter. What does he do? Bomb their power plants? He'll unite the entire Iranian populace along with many in the world screaming war crimes.

****ing utter disaster. A backhand to all of us that voted for him.

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Keep reading the left's propaganda. I have only read about your claims in opinion pieces by leftist scribes...

Sourced from Jonathan Swan and Maggie Haberman. LOLOL.

See:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/vance-rubio-and-wiles-iran-war-what-iran-war-don-t-look-at-me/ar-AA20sgc3

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I try to read and listen to various sources. Some left, some right. Is Joe Kent a left propagandist?

The funny thing is there are democrats and republicans both for and against this war. What do you do with the democrats that are for this war? Are they right propagandists?

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Joe Kent is a traitorous POS repeating Iranian propaganda.

Also, the only Democrat backing the Iran war is a PA senator.

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There are 2 that are publicly for it. Josh Gottheimer Being another

There are more that to varying defrees do not want to limit Trumps power and I believe 5 of them voted against the war powers resolution. They effectively deferred to Trump to carry out this war, which is another issue entirely, but for another day maybe

revvie said:

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I have lived through Viet Nam, Desert Shield, Desert Storm, War on Terror, Afghanistan. All done with the best of intentions and all with the same result. Many deaths and trillions of dollars spent. All with the same results. We go home and nothing really changes. I don't see this "excursion" to Iran any differently. Declare mission accomplished and stop wasting money and lives to achieve an objective that we are not totally committed.

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We are not really good at changing things. Almost every issue we had 10 years ago, or 20 years ago, we still have, in many cases it is even gotten worse. State level, federal level, same thing. As to these "wars" the one thing that does change is the bank balance of a lot of companies and thus a lot of individuals.

So I was wondering. It seems some decisions are getting made in Tehran, but it isn't clear by whom. Eerily like the White House under Biden.

Take out the people we've negotiated with and simply wait for the next people to step up. They dont capitulate, then take them out too. Keep repeating until we get what we want.

if Iran "won" how did THIS just happen!?!

List of notable Lebanese figures confirmed killed over the past 24 hours:

- Fadel Abbas Najm was an aide, bodyguard, and courier for Hezbollah's Secretary-General, Naim Qassem was killed in the Tallet Khayat neighborhood in Beirut.

- Hajj Issam Najib Shoeb (Abu Najib) was a Hezbollah field commander from Charqiyeh.

- Hajj Yahya Hadraj was a veteran member of Hezbollah and a latmiya reciter at Shia mourning gatherings. He was killed in the Hayy al-Salam area of Dahiyeh.

- Sheikh Sadeq al-Nabulsi, a Shia cleric, professor of political science at Lebanese University, helped run a seminary in Sidon, and contributed for Al-Akhbar. He was the brother of Mohammad Afif, Hezbollah's former spokesman and head of media relations (he was killed in 2024). He was killed in a strike on the al-Zahraa complex in Sidon.

- Muhammad Sbeity served as a Shia sheikh and was well-known for his sermons and online profiles. He was also killed in strikes on the al-Zahraa complex.

- Souzan Al-Khalil was a media personality and on-air presenter and producer for Hezbollah-owned al-Manar TV. She was killed in a strike on Kayfoun, south of Beirut.

Unconfirmed reports:

- Abu Said Al-Khansa was the former Mayor of the Ghobeiry Municipality in Dahiyeh. He currently serves as head of Hezbollah's Christian relations. I couldn't confirm his death, but local sources talk about the death of two of his family members.

Gaw617 - get up to speed. You are showing your true colors.