Paxton vs Talarico

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I think the evidence against Paxton was someone in his office claimed to have overheard a conversation about another conversation regarding a kitchen or bathroom remodel. That's it. He was acquitted because there wasn't other evidence. The same people with blinders on about "10% for the big guy" refuse to accept outcomes after not only an acquittal, but the Big Guy's DOJ / FBI spent four years trying to get this guy and didn't find anything.
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Imagine a dem taking a Republican candidate ("maga") to task over choosing "party over principle" lol

Political introspection is functionally non-existent
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murphyag said:

jrdaustin said:

murphyag said:

samurai_science said:

njohn87 said:

Let's be honest, the bloated philanderer he's running against shouldn't anyone's ideal model of masculinity either.


No one cares about the wife cheating anymore, Democrats think it's a wedge issue but it's not

True Christians should still care about wife cheating. The Ten Commandments aren't just a suggestion.

Yet, commandments are broken by all. I know I have broken some. And then asked for forgiveness.

That said, I DO care about wife cheating. Not a fan of it, and that's one I haven't broken. But, I have had coworkers who unfortunately have, and I have not gone on some tirade expecting them to lose their job.

I would never expect someone to be refused to be hired because of an infidelity, as I would never expect someone to lose a job simply because they are gay. Now, if their lifestyle choices inhibit their ability to DO the job, then that's another story.

My grandpa and father used to always say "A father who cheats on his wife is also cheating on his children and that a man who cheats on his children won't think twice about screwing other people over in life." I swear I must have heard them saying that a thousand times when Bill Clinton was running for president the first time and throughout his presidency. And grandpa and dad weren't wrong. I'm in my 50's and over the years I have observed the same thing with guys I have worked with who were cheaters. It is a sad state of affairs that morals and decency aren't more widely valued.

What would father and grandpa say about the pervert Talarico? Or would they ignore the fact that the guy wants full-term abortion, child mutilations, abusing children with gender queer indoctrination, open borders...

I know what they would say. 'Son please!'
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Did not vote for Trump 3 times because I needed a friend/role model. I got plenty of great friends and I am too old to need a human role model. I voted for him to do a job. Just like hiring an HVAC guy to fix the AC system. Same thing for Paxton. Need him to do a job. Talarico can't/won't. Simple choice.
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oh no said:

I think the evidence against Paxton was someone in his office claimed to have overheard a conversation about another conversation regarding a kitchen or bathroom remodel. That's it. He was acquitted because there wasn't other evidence. The same people with blinders on about "10% for the big guy" refuse to accept outcomes after not only an acquittal, but the Big Guy's DOJ / FBI spent four years trying to get this guy and didn't find anything.


Lol. 8 of his aides reported him to the FBI. They were then fired and filed for wrongful termination. Instead of fighting the lawsuit, which should have been easy if they were all lying, Paxton settled for $3MM of taxpayer funds. Draw whatever conclusions you want to from that, but it definitely wasn't just one random overheard conversation.

And yes, he's still light years better than Talarico.
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agent-maroon said:

Imagine a dem taking a Republican candidate ("maga") to task over choosing "party over principle" lol

Political introspection is functionally non-existent



when you see tallarco as well as platner in maine.. or even the big guy biden. a few quotes come to mind:



Quote:

There will be loyalty, except loyalty towards the Party. There will be no love, except the love of Big Brother.

- George Orwell, 1984



Quote:

The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.

- George Orwell, 1984



Quote:

It is impossible to see reality except by looking through the eyes of the Party. That is the fact that you have to relearn. It needs an act of self-destruction, an effort of the will.

- George Orwell, 1984


Quote:

Our organization is not a family circle, nor an association of personal friends... We cannot allow interests of personal friendship to be placed above the interests of our Party.

- Joseph Stalin



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murphyag said:

samurai_science said:

njohn87 said:

Let's be honest, the bloated philanderer he's running against shouldn't anyone's ideal model of masculinity either.


No one cares about the wife cheating anymore, Democrats think it's a wedge issue but it's not

True Christians should still care about wife cheating. The Ten Commandments aren't just a suggestion.

True Christians do care about adultery. I've seen too much of this and marriages destroyed by it. It is a basic human failing.

What I have to balance that with is the other side is running a psychopath. If you believe there are 6 sexes; you're a psychopath. If you believe in destroying young bodies in the name of sexual deviancy, you're a psychopath. If you don't believe we know what a woman is ("friends with uteruses), then you're a psychopath. These three things alone mean you cannot be trusted with any basic decision. All this even before the discussion on him being a heretic and false prophet.

As for my Christianity, for Paxton, I pray for his family. As for Talerico, I pray that God casts out demons from the leftist intelligentsia that is trying to destroy the very fabric of society. But, in the secular, political, world, I have to take the best I can get.

This is not really a hard choice.
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That was well said. He is a psychopath and the choice is clear. We need to pray for our country. I don't want my 9 month old grandson to have a Communist country.
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bobbranco said:

murphyag said:

jrdaustin said:

murphyag said:

samurai_science said:

njohn87 said:

Let's be honest, the bloated philanderer he's running against shouldn't anyone's ideal model of masculinity either.


No one cares about the wife cheating anymore, Democrats think it's a wedge issue but it's not

True Christians should still care about wife cheating. The Ten Commandments aren't just a suggestion.

Yet, commandments are broken by all. I know I have broken some. And then asked for forgiveness.

That said, I DO care about wife cheating. Not a fan of it, and that's one I haven't broken. But, I have had coworkers who unfortunately have, and I have not gone on some tirade expecting them to lose their job.

I would never expect someone to be refused to be hired because of an infidelity, as I would never expect someone to lose a job simply because they are gay. Now, if their lifestyle choices inhibit their ability to DO the job, then that's another story.

My grandpa and father used to always say "A father who cheats on his wife is also cheating on his children and that a man who cheats on his children won't think twice about screwing other people over in life." I swear I must have heard them saying that a thousand times when Bill Clinton was running for president the first time and throughout his presidency. And grandpa and dad weren't wrong. I'm in my 50's and over the years I have observed the same thing with guys I have worked with who were cheaters. It is a sad state of affairs that morals and decency aren't more widely valued.

What would father and grandpa say about the pervert Talarico? Or would they ignore the fact that the guy wants full-term abortion, child mutilations, abusing children with gender queer indoctrination, open borders...

I know what they would say. 'Son please!'

This. It's crazy to me how many people still try to use morals as a club to beat conservatives with, when they overlook instances where "their" folks in power are absolutely devoid of principals or morals. And they vote accordingly.

Even giving Murphy a TON of leeway and benefit of the doubt on who he supports in this race, his failure to recognize how warped the logic is to call for Paxton being held to a certain standard while ignoring the fact that the left currently holds themselves to NO standards.

I'm reminded of when Ike had benched Patton because he had slapped a kid in the hospital for not returning to the fight. The kid had PTSD, and Patton wasn't tolerating it. Bad Patton. But Ike soon realized that Patton - a barely controllable pit bull - was needed to win the War. So, with all of his baggage, Patton was put back to work.

If Ike had relied on "morals and decency", we might be speaking German today.
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What are Talarico's stances on H1Bs? Property taxes? Illegal immigration and its impact on the economy? Protecting the rights of Americans ?

I'm guessing based on his pandering he not America first and all about flooding this country with more H1Bs and illegal immigrants that require us tax payers to foot the bill. He is likely all about expanding the government and demanding higher taxes like any dem. Like most libs, the campaign on emotion and not on policy because most of their voters are on SSRIs and are easily manipulated into selling out America for feels.
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he did preach about how our southern boarder should be a giant "welcome mat".
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oh no said:

he did preach about how our southern boarder should be a giant "welcome mat".


I'm all for LEGAL immigration. I'm against illegal immigration. If a politician views our borders a sieve then I'm automatically not voting for them. I'd love to know if he thinks the southern border is a welcome mat and the DHS, border patrol, INS, and whomever are the welcoming committee and only legal immigrants are in then I'll look further into his policy but I doubt that is the case. I'm guessing he all about further the serfdom.
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@murphyag…those morals and decency, where do think those come from?
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J. Walter Weatherman said:

oh no said:

I think the evidence against Paxton was someone in his office claimed to have overheard a conversation about another conversation regarding a kitchen or bathroom remodel. That's it. He was acquitted because there wasn't other evidence. The same people with blinders on about "10% for the big guy" refuse to accept outcomes after not only an acquittal, but the Big Guy's DOJ / FBI spent four years trying to get this guy and didn't find anything.


Lol. 8 of his aides reported him to the FBI. They were then fired and filed for wrongful termination. Instead of fighting the lawsuit, which should have been easy if they were all lying, Paxton settled for $3MM of taxpayer funds. Draw whatever conclusions you want to from that, but it definitely wasn't just one random overheard conversation.

And yes, he's still light years better than Talarico.

Actually it is over $6 million going up to over $8 million with accrued interest if not paid by the end of year. Which will happen since the state legislature is not in session.
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jrdaustin said:

bobbranco said:

murphyag said:

jrdaustin said:

murphyag said:

samurai_science said:

njohn87 said:

Let's be honest, the bloated philanderer he's running against shouldn't anyone's ideal model of masculinity either.


No one cares about the wife cheating anymore, Democrats think it's a wedge issue but it's not

True Christians should still care about wife cheating. The Ten Commandments aren't just a suggestion.

Yet, commandments are broken by all. I know I have broken some. And then asked for forgiveness.

That said, I DO care about wife cheating. Not a fan of it, and that's one I haven't broken. But, I have had coworkers who unfortunately have, and I have not gone on some tirade expecting them to lose their job.

I would never expect someone to be refused to be hired because of an infidelity, as I would never expect someone to lose a job simply because they are gay. Now, if their lifestyle choices inhibit their ability to DO the job, then that's another story.

My grandpa and father used to always say "A father who cheats on his wife is also cheating on his children and that a man who cheats on his children won't think twice about screwing other people over in life." I swear I must have heard them saying that a thousand times when Bill Clinton was running for president the first time and throughout his presidency. And grandpa and dad weren't wrong. I'm in my 50's and over the years I have observed the same thing with guys I have worked with who were cheaters. It is a sad state of affairs that morals and decency aren't more widely valued.

What would father and grandpa say about the pervert Talarico? Or would they ignore the fact that the guy wants full-term abortion, child mutilations, abusing children with gender queer indoctrination, open borders...

I know what they would say. 'Son please!'

This. It's crazy to me how many people still try to use morals as a club to beat conservatives with, when they overlook instances where "their" folks in power are absolutely devoid of principals or morals. And they vote accordingly.

Even giving Murphy a TON of leeway and benefit of the doubt on who he supports in this race, his failure to recognize how warped the logic is to call for Paxton being held to a certain standard while ignoring the fact that the left currently holds themselves to NO standards.

I'm reminded of when Ike had benched Patton because he had slapped a kid in the hospital for not returning to the fight. The kid had PTSD, and Patton wasn't tolerating it. Bad Patton. But Ike soon realized that Patton - a barely controllable pit bull - was needed to win the War. So, with all of his baggage, Patton was put back to work.

If Ike had relied on "morals and decency", we might be speaking German today.

Great analogy. We are at war for the very survival of the Republic. You choose the warriors that will ensure your side will win the victory. Only after you win it do you have the luxury of worrying about the niceties of the personal lives of the generals.
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There is one reason the socialist party opened the border wide and invited mass unfettered migration to the tune of ~20 million new comers in four short years. And this freak supports it.
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japantiger said:

murphyag said:

samurai_science said:

njohn87 said:

Let's be honest, the bloated philanderer he's running against shouldn't anyone's ideal model of masculinity either.



No one cares about the wife cheating anymore, Democrats think it's a wedge issue but it's not

True Christians should still care about wife cheating. The Ten Commandments aren't just a suggestion.

True Christians do care about adultery. I've seen too much of this and marriages destroyed by it. It is a basic human failing.

What I have to balance that with is the other side is running a psychopath. If you believe there are 6 sexes; you're a psychopath. If you believe in destroying young bodies in the name of sexual deviancy, you're a psychopath. If you don't believe we know what a woman is ("friends with uteruses), then you're a psychopath. These three things alone mean you cannot be trusted with any basic decision. All this even before the discussion on him being a heretic and false prophet.

As for my Christianity, for Paxton, I pray for his family. As for Talerico, I pray that God casts out demons from the leftist intelligentsia that is trying to destroy the very fabric of society. But, in the secular, political, world, I have to take the best I can get.

This is not really a hard choice.


True Christians should follow the "judge not lest ye be judged yourself" mindset. I am not in a position to decide whether Paxton should be condemned for his sin of adultery. What I should care about is whether his past adultery makes him incapable of doing the job I am voting for him to do. If adultery is disqualifying, we are going to need a bunch more senators.
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Talarco is totally straight with that totally legit long time girlfriend/soulmate though

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Electing Talarico as their Senate nominee might be the biggest blunder of this century for Texas Democrats. And that's saying something.

He's going to do more the motivate Republicans and Independents to go vote for Paxton than he will for the Democrats to show up and go vote for him.
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Ag87H2O said:

Electing Talarico as their Senate nominee might be the biggest blunder of this century for Texas Democrats. And that's saying something.

He's going to do more the motivate Republicans and Independents to go vote for Paxton than he will Democrats to show up and vote for him.


I rarely vote in the midterms but will make sure the wife and I get down to the polls to vote in opposition to Talarico.
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all the massive funding to decide who reps Texas from east and left coast elites abruptly abandoned Jazzmine and shifted over to James Talurco last fall when they thought they struck gold with this guy. They even convinced their useful idiots he was better than beto and they really got wound up about him. One of them even excitedly posted a thread on this forum to warn us to "get used to the name".. so excited they had a smooth-talking "man of the cloth" finally on the D side to help us vote ourselves into socialism.

...but after the whacked out crazy takes from him have been coming out as soon as he beat Jazzmine in the primary, I wonder if the socialist elites end up backing off their funding for these next few months, realizing it's a lost cause waste of money. they may decide to spend it in Maine, New Jersey, and elsewhere they might think they have comrades with a better chance.
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oh no said:

Talarco is totally straight with that totally legit long time girlfriend/soulmate though



You can't deny the teachings of Paul and still consider yourself to be teaching Christian principles. The man was literally converted by Jesus Himself and was guided by the Holy Spirit. It's heresy to say that you can ignore his teachings just because you think he was "homophobic" (whatever that means on this fine Wednesday afternoon).

You can't just cancel one of the 12 Apostles because you disagree with them. talarico is a false prophet, heretic, and any synonym you want to attach to him.


ETA - although Paul wasn't one of the original 12, he was very much an influential Apostle of the early Christian church. Will leave OP uncorrected for informative purposes
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yeah, but Satan needs a method to convince the masses that it's holy, righteous, and just to crush your babies' skulls, to stick your wang in another dude's hairy arse, to chop off your kids' genitals, etc.
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I keep saying this. People need to stop looking at the personalities and looking at their positions. We've gotten to the point that it's capitalism vs socialism in every nationwide and state wide election. Nothing else to look at. If you want to lose freedoms, pay higher taxes, have more social decay, and have to depend on the government for everything, then vote for a democrat. And if that's what you want, fine. That's your right. I'm not a fan of Paxton but no way would I jeopardize our state by voting for a socialist or by not voting. Socialism has only failed everywhere it has been installed.
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Where are you seeing capitalism? All I've seen the last few decades is "my socialism is better than your socialism."
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oh no said:

all the massive funding to decide who reps Texas from east and left coast elites abruptly abandoned Jazzmine and shifted over to James Talurco last fall when they thought they struck gold with this guy. They even convinced their useful idiots he was better than beto and they really got wound up about him. One of them even excitedly posted a thread on this forum to warn us to "get used to the name".. so excited they had a smooth-talking "man of the cloth" finally on the D side to help us vote ourselves into socialism.

...but after the whacked out crazy takes from him have been coming out as soon as he beat Jazzmine in the primary, I wonder if the socialist elites end up backing off their funding for these next few months, realizing it's a lost cause waste of money. they may decide to spend it in Maine, New Jersey, and elsewhere they might think they have comrades with a better chance.

And I sit here shaking my head that in our nation's 250th year, a statement is rightfully made that Democrats may wish to shift funds from Bad Candidate #1, who's manufactured persona is being soundly rejected by Texans, to Unbelieveably Awful Candidate #2, a vocally antisemitic, nazi-tattoo wearing, military disparaging, teenage girl propositioning socialist who amazingly is thought to be able to win against perhaps the most centrist Republican in the Senate, and who just today received the Senate minority leader's full stamp of approval.

Amazing times we're living in.
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oh no said:



There is one reason the socialist party opened the border wide and invited mass unfettered migration to the tune of ~20 million new comers in four short years. And this freak supports it.


To a certain extent, I agree with him here. My front porch has a welcome mat - even says Howdy on it. But if you want to visit, you stay on the porch/at the border until I invite you in.
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the mentally deficient masses must not understand the socialism they are supporting.

if they think the feckless ineffective republican leadership over past decades is just another/different form of socialism because they grew the government or failed to retract government enough, they cannot be helped. Rs have at least lowered taxes throughout and they've grown the government via defense and security spending with the military - not social programs and trying to nationalize and federalize everything like "their socialism".
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This probably means absolutely nothing. Talarico has been compared to Beto. The Dems here in Austin loved them some Beto. During his two campaigns you couldn't swing a dead cat around without hitting a Beto yard sign. This time around - at least in my immediate neighborhood - I've seen barely any Talarico signs or bumper stickers (and the whacko prius and suburu drivers also looooove the bumper stickers). Obviously, Austin will go full bore for 'ol rico. But maybe this indicates their overall excitement level over this freak?
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Claude! said:

oh no said:



There is one reason the socialist party opened the border wide and invited mass unfettered migration to the tune of ~20 million new comers in four short years. And this freak supports it.


To a certain extent, I agree with him here. My front porch has a welcome mat - even says Howdy on it. But if you want to visit, you stay on the porch/at the border until I invite you in.



I'm no defender of him, but he did finish his statement with "and a lock on the door" IIRC.

He doesn't mean it though.
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oh no said:




Picking and choosing parts of the Bible that he agrees with?

Why am I not surprised that Talarico thinks he knows more than the Lord almighty?
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txags92 said:

japantiger said:

murphyag said:

samurai_science said:

njohn87 said:

Let's be honest, the bloated philanderer he's running against shouldn't anyone's ideal model of masculinity either.



No one cares about the wife cheating anymore, Democrats think it's a wedge issue but it's not

True Christians should still care about wife cheating. The Ten Commandments aren't just a suggestion.

True Christians do care about adultery. I've seen too much of this and marriages destroyed by it. It is a basic human failing.

What I have to balance that with is the other side is running a psychopath. If you believe there are 6 sexes; you're a psychopath. If you believe in destroying young bodies in the name of sexual deviancy, you're a psychopath. If you don't believe we know what a woman is ("friends with uteruses), then you're a psychopath. These three things alone mean you cannot be trusted with any basic decision. All this even before the discussion on him being a heretic and false prophet.

As for my Christianity, for Paxton, I pray for his family. As for Talerico, I pray that God casts out demons from the leftist intelligentsia that is trying to destroy the very fabric of society. But, in the secular, political, world, I have to take the best I can get.

This is not really a hard choice.


True Christians should follow the "judge not lest ye be judged yourself" mindset. I am not in a position to decide whether Paxton should be condemned for his sin of adultery. What I should care about is whether his past adultery makes him incapable of doing the job I am voting for him to do. If adultery is disqualifying, we are going to need a bunch more senators.

You do know the point of that biblical scene was that there was one there that could cast the first stone but refused to do so. He didn't say, "go back to your sinful life because God wants you to be happy." but instead, "go and sin no more." Adultery is a sin and hopefully Paxton repents, Talarico however IS an willful heretic that celebrates sin and aims for the destruction of our society's foundation, that being a God fearing people. "Don't judge", doesn't mean "don't discern".
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Queso1 said:

Where are you seeing capitalism? All I've seen the last few decades is "my socialism is better than your socialism."



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I have a cousin who married a career AF officer/pilot. At some point in the marriage she cut him off completely as a protest to his continued military service. This eventually led to him having an affair and ultimately leaving her. While he did quite well in his career he was miserable on the homefront for many years.

The family genuinely liked the guy. His MIL (my aunt) loved him. And he is a good dad, good friend, and good associate in the workplace (in his case, the AF). He eventually married the gal he had the affair with and they have two kids together.

My point is that none of us really know what the Paxton's marriage was like. Many marriages collapse in time for a multitude of reasons. Some couples stay together, until they don't, for reasons that aren't selfish.

Neither Paxton nor Cornyn were desirable outcomes, IMO. But as so many have already said, we are so beyond having the luxury of perfect candidates.
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