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2021-2022 Winter Armageddon

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Asked before but does anyone else still have leaves on trees that should have dropped weeks ago?

I still have leaves on two of my Japanese Maple's and on my Lacebark Elm.
Congrats on having a lacebark that is still alive. I've planted two and both died. Pretty trees.
They are beautiful, however.......

....it is absolutely the worst tree on planet earth to have next to or near a pool. For some dumbass reason, the landscape designer that did this backyard years before we purchased this house put that tree in and it hangs over the pool. I've forgotten who it was at this point, but I looked them up and they are a high dollar landscape firm for the rich in Dallas now. I've always wanted to contact them and laugh at their ignorance of putting this tree where they did. But I'm also the dumbass that has kept the tree in place. It's just too pretty to remove and it would dramatically change our backyard.

I didn't know this tree species when we bought the house, so our first fall here was eye opening. You can't believe how much crap this tree drops from about October-Jan/Feb. It has 3 different drop phases:

  • Phase 1 (Octish): It first drops this fine black seed/powder in one fell swoop on one day that gets everywhere.
  • Phase 2: (Nov-Jan): It then drops seed pods that look like mini corn flakes. They get everywhere, even in the house.
  • Phase 3: (Nov-Jan): Leaves. Also, the squirrels cut the branches, so you get 4 to 5-inch stems with leaves on them constantly dumping into the pool and backyard along with individual leaves. The leaves are small at about 1 inch in length and about a .5 inch in width. They also get everywhere.

Do not ever put this tree anywhere near your pool. I'm actually going to invest in a custom cover this year solely because of this tree.
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Have a flight thurs morning. Of course it's supposed to be hitting hard around then
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Going to let it ride. Last year the pump ran for about 5 or 6 days straight.

Already this year it's run 48 continuous hours as we've had one day of low in the low 20's and high in the low 30's. I get this time will be colder but not all that much.
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One thing I am thinking about doing is turning off programming and only having freeze protect run as needed. That way, when it warms up the pumps can shut down for a while. Sometimes, due to having daytime run times, my pump ends up running 24/7 because it runs all day on program and the has to kick on at night due temps.
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planoaggie123 said:

One thing I am thinking about doing is turning off programming and only having freeze protect run as needed. That way, when it warms up the pumps can shut down for a while. Sometimes, due to having daytime run times, my pump ends up running 24/7 because it runs all day on program and the has to kick on at night due temps.


Yep. I actually set mine to run from midnight to 8 am in the winter.
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riverrataggie said:

planoaggie123 said:

One thing I am thinking about doing is turning off programming and only having freeze protect run as needed. That way, when it warms up the pumps can shut down for a while. Sometimes, due to having daytime run times, my pump ends up running 24/7 because it runs all day on program and the has to kick on at night due temps.


Yep. I actually set mine to run from midnight to 8 am in the winter.
Pretty much what I do.
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I would but the way our house is set up it's pretty loud-ish in the master bedroom + the wife still prefers the water features etc on during the day.
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It's loudish in our master bedroom as well.
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I've also done this in the past when worried about the pump running long term.

Shut everything off at the breaker, cover with drop cloths, and toss some incandescent Christmas string light on under the drop cloths. The heat from the lights is is enough to keep things from freezing. I use about 4 sets
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You do that in addition to draining equipment?
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No, when I use lights I don't drain anything. The catch is if you lose power you run the risk of your equipment freezing. It's a calculated risk. If it looks like power loss might occur I drain my equipment
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Was outside picking up dog crap and went ahead and shut it down and pulled plugs.

Like I said before, I don't like being out there in the cold if power goes out. Also, I have salt water pool and chlorine level is too high right now, so shutting it down for a few days is just fine.
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Tomorrow night grilling hamburgers and plan to just shut things down then but will just keep an eye out for any unlikely and unexpected changes in weather.
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planoaggie123 said:

Tomorrow night grilling hamburgers and plan to just shut things down then but will just keep an eye out for any unlikely and unexpected changes in weather.
Unfortunately for me, the potential exist that I'm at work late the next few nights due to some tests we're running that I bet our Customer wants to get done and get outta town. I'd rather not be out there in the dark doing it.
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This is shaping up somewhat differently than last year, and what worked last year may not work this year.

Specifically, the models are bringing us a potential quarter to half inch of ice and freezing rain to start things off. Then snow on top of that.

Point being, even if you weren't selected by ERCOT to have an outage last year, the ice doesn't care about that - lines downed by tree limbs, etc. have the potential to knock out power, and with the road conditions it would be tough for the power companies to get out and clear downed lines.

You should make preparations as though you're going to lose power.

I didn't drain my lines, equipment, etc. last year but will do that Tuesday afternoon (weather should be nice) ahead of the storm, and then just leave everything off at the pool pad until this is over with.
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I almost wish I did it today. We are busy too but thankfully I can just make myself leave and work late at night if needed. Will take advantage of the next few hours and keep an eye out on weather…
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For those that drain. Do you drain past skimmer baskets or return jets?
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I think I am just going to use the water jugs in skimmers and pool this time vs draining.

However, if draining, seems like below return jets would be extreme? I would probably just be sure to drain to bottom of skimmer. Then let the ground keep things warm from there. Curious if anyone is different though. I could be wrong. Learning each year.
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I realize we are all a little gun shy after last winter but seems like we are getting a little extreme here? It's supposed to above freezing during the day every day this week with 3 nights of below freezing (Tues-Thur).

My equipment will automatically run. Thinking I will do a status check on Wednesday to see latest on weather and go from there.

I'm sure I just jinxed myself now.
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YouBet said:

I realize we are all a little gun shy after last winter but seems like we are getting a little extreme here? It's supposed to above freezing during the day every day this week with 3 nights of below freezing (Tues-Thur).

My equipment will automatically run. Thinking I will do a status check on Wednesday to see latest on weather and go from there.

I'm sure I just jinxed myself now.

Looks like continuous below freezing from Wednesday night sometime (low of 22) until Friday afternoon (high of 36). I don't see anything above freezing on Thursday all day (high 27 and low 16)

Maybe 40 hours or so below freezing. Not quite last years 120+ hours though.

That's what weather channel and weather.com show anyway.

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Well, I briefly forgot about the expected precip and was just thinking temps so I'm going retract my statement somewhat.
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YouBet said:

Well, I briefly forgot about the expected precip and was just thinking temps so I'm going retract my statement somewhat.
too late. you jinxed it.
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This won't be near as bad as last year mainly because it's not the entire state that'll be below freezing taxing the grid. Pretty much just the northern half of the state will be below freezing for 12+ hours at a time.

The models are becoming more conservative with precip totals the closer we get. I'm guessing right now at some ice and then 1-2" of snow on top of that. Gone by Friday afternoon. And then we're looking at another round of some wintry precip the following Wednesday.
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YouBet said:

Well, I briefly forgot about the expected precip and was just thinking temps so I'm going retract my statement somewhat.


I made a comment earlier tonight that I guess went out over the air that I am deeply ashamed of. If I have hurt anyone out there, I can't tell you how much I say from the bottom of my heart I'm so very, very sorry. I pride myself and think of myself as a man of faith, as there's a drive into deep left field by Castellanos and that'll be a home run. And so that'll make it a 4-0 ballgame. I don't know if I'm going to be putting on this headset again. I don't know if it's going to be for the Reds. I don't know if it's going to be for my bosses at Fox.
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Legal Custodian said:

This won't be near as bad as last year mainly because it's not the entire state that'll be below freezing taxing the grid. Pretty much just the northern half of the state will be below freezing for 12+ hours at a time.

The models are becoming more conservative with precip totals the closer we get. I'm guessing right now at some ice and then 1-2" of snow on top of that. Gone by Friday afternoon. And then we're looking at another round of some wintry precip the following Wednesday.

I think the jury is still out on both of those.

Depending on where the trough enters Texas is going to drive a lot of this. If it comes in at El Paso or further south, a big plume of moisture is going to get pumped up and it will turn into a major storm for a good swath of Texas. Not as much as last year, but it'd hit a swath from Del Rio up through central Texas and into the Metroplex.

It should be shorter duration, but the models are trending colder for Friday and Saturday now. Given the trend, it's a possibility now that we won't be above freezing until Saturday or Sunday.

And the confidence has grown in north Texas getting ice and freezing rain to start, which means tree limbs down and lines down.

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I actually see the models trending upward. The lows aren't nearly the lows and 35 with sun won't freeze crap.

As someone pointed out it's the freezing rain that will be a concern.
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My weather app is still showing above freezing every day this week. The lows have dropped below freezing at night Tue-Sun which is 2 more days.

I don't understand the huge disparity we are seeing in the day temps on here. Coldest day I have is Thu and Fri at 35. Weather channel has Thursday at 29 so only 1 day below freezing. What are y'all looking at that says multiple days below freezing?
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YouBet said:

My weather app is still showing above freezing every day this week. The lows have dropped below freezing at night Tue-Sun which is 2 more days.

I don't understand the huge disparity we are seeing in the day temps on here. Coldest day I have is Thu and Fri at 35. Weather channel has Thursday at 29 so only 1 day below freezing. What are y'all looking at that says multiple days below freezing?


Same. I've seen temp forecasts rise over the past several days.
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Seems like there is 100% disparity between what Weather.com etc.

There was a link to a Storm forum / thread and they are far more negative on what is coming...
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YouBet said:

My weather app is still showing above freezing every day this week. The lows have dropped below freezing at night Tue-Sun which is 2 more days.

I don't understand the huge disparity we are seeing in the day temps on here. Coldest day I have is Thu and Fri at 35. Weather channel has Thursday at 29 so only 1 day below freezing. What are y'all looking at that says multiple days below freezing?
You need to be following more than your computer generated app.

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lawless89 said:

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My weather app is still showing above freezing every day this week. The lows have dropped below freezing at night Tue-Sun which is 2 more days.

I don't understand the huge disparity we are seeing in the day temps on here. Coldest day I have is Thu and Fri at 35. Weather channel has Thursday at 29 so only 1 day below freezing. What are y'all looking at that says multiple days below freezing?
You need to be following more than your computer generated app.

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Ok, so bolded shows Thursday and Friday during the day below freezing. The latter's high will be 30.
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If someone is following NWS Fort Worth, there is no reason to follow Delkus.
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YouBet said:

lawless89 said:

YouBet said:

My weather app is still showing above freezing every day this week. The lows have dropped below freezing at night Tue-Sun which is 2 more days.

I don't understand the huge disparity we are seeing in the day temps on here. Coldest day I have is Thu and Fri at 35. Weather channel has Thursday at 29 so only 1 day below freezing. What are y'all looking at that says multiple days below freezing?
You need to be following more than your computer generated app.

US National Weather Service Fort Worth
Texas Storm Chasers
Pete Delkus WFAA
Ok, so bolded shows Thursday and Friday during the day below freezing. The latter's high will be 30.
Same. I'm not following. I still see the same thing no matter who or where I go.
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I Have Spoken said:

If someone is following NWS Fort Worth, there is no reason to follow Delkus.


His smart ass replies can be pretty funny sometimes so I still follow him for that.
 
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