I'll say this, if Jozy is healthy he is probably still the starter up top right now. It would be great if one of these players could push him to the bench, because it's generally not great to rely on him staying healthy.
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PatAg said:
I'll say this, if Jozy is healthy he is probably still the starter up top right now. It would be great if one of these players could push him to the bench, because it's generally not great to rely on him staying healthy.
If you can't help us in '26, I don't want them playing.
On a related note to this camp, the roster we choose for the U-23/Olympics stuff will be just as important as the Men's team. All about getting these players reps together in different combinations. If a player isn't on the MNT for the start of qualifying, they need to realize if they play well and keep improving with the Youth teams they WILL get opportunities to play themselves into the squad.
So much of our player pool is in that age bracker where players will just make tremendous jumps in quality over 1-2 years.
So much of our player pool is in that age bracker where players will just make tremendous jumps in quality over 1-2 years.
There is a world cup in '22, and if he is better then he will play. Or even for the qualifying, if he is better at that time play the best players.Superblood Wolfmoon said:PatAg said:
I'll say this, if Jozy is healthy he is probably still the starter up top right now. It would be great if one of these players could push him to the bench, because it's generally not great to rely on him staying healthy.
If you can't help us in '26, I don't want them playing.
PatAg said:There is a world cup in '22, and if he is better then he will play. Or even for the qualifying, if he is better at that time play the best players.Superblood Wolfmoon said:PatAg said:
I'll say this, if Jozy is healthy he is probably still the starter up top right now. It would be great if one of these players could push him to the bench, because it's generally not great to rely on him staying healthy.
If you can't help us in '26, I don't want them playing.
Yeah. I know. I don't think anyone that won't play in the '26 should play. Brooks and Stefan is probably the oldest ones I would play because you can still play those positions in your 30s.
It's not going to happen but that's my opinion.
If Jozy is our best then start him. But we really need someone better than him there.
We have played Panama 23 times. This is tied for the second biggest beat down we've given them. We beat them 6-0 in 2004 and 4-0 in 2017. Damn near every other match has ended 2-1 or 1-0. Say what you want about the lineups, no matter the circumstances we've only blown them out 2 other times.
We looked like the much more talented team damn near the entire game. While he was on the pitch, Reyna looked like the best player IMO. Musah stood out to me as well, we need to keep him.
61% Poss
6 corners
6 goals
Hell of a performance
We looked like the much more talented team damn near the entire game. While he was on the pitch, Reyna looked like the best player IMO. Musah stood out to me as well, we need to keep him.
61% Poss
6 corners
6 goals
Hell of a performance
I do really enjoy the club game, but I still think it just doesn't compare to the national games in terms of how much I care.
I even grew up playing and following the game and I still feel that way. Maybe it's different if you live in England or Germany, and the team you root for is actually your neighborhood/city team.
I even grew up playing and following the game and I still feel that way. Maybe it's different if you live in England or Germany, and the team you root for is actually your neighborhood/city team.
Yep, I was more speculating what will happen. I'm all on board with playing the kids with that same intent in mind.
This is my team too.PatAg said:
I do really enjoy the club game, but I still think it just doesn't compare to the national games in terms of how much I care.
I even grew up playing and following the game and I still feel that way. Maybe it's different if you live in England or Germany, and the team you root for is actually your neighborhood/city team.
I follow players and not teams...and it all goes back to UNMNT.
Musah and Gioacchini's, and Soto's for that matter, caps during this Intl break do not cap-tie them to USA, since they were friendlies, right? How soon can USA get them cap-tied?
Correct...isn't it January?oh no said:
Musah and Gioacchini's, and Soto's for that matter, caps during this Intl break do not cap-tie them to USA, since they were friendlies, right? How soon can USA get them cap-tied?
I think it has to be an actual FIFA match (or whatever the terminology is), so the WC qualifying matches, Nations League matches are the ones that will cap tie a player.
I think Musah needs to file a one time switch to play for the US but not sure about Gioachinni.
I think Musah needs to file a one time switch to play for the US but not sure about Gioachinni.
"And liberals, being liberals, will double down on failure." - dedgod
We have loads of international tournaments/qualifiers coming up the next 12 months so we're going to need a decent depth of roster across multiple age groups.
I get the desire to not play anyone who isn't going help us in 2026, but I want to qualify and compete in WC2022 and other tourneys prior to that. If guys not on this current roster can help us do that, then they need to play.
I get the desire to not play anyone who isn't going help us in 2026, but I want to qualify and compete in WC2022 and other tourneys prior to that. If guys not on this current roster can help us do that, then they need to play.
would have liked to see Johnny play at 6 during this break. Are we at risk of Johnny getting looks from Brazil or Konrad from Spain before we can cap-ties these guys?
Johnny did play both games at the 6, subbing in for Adams both times.
"And liberals, being liberals, will double down on failure." - dedgod
ooof. didn't watch the 2nd half v wales and was in and out today. Didn't realize Johnny played. How'd he look?
I read that Musah does not because he only ever played friendlies for the England youth teams somehowakm91 said:
I think it has to be an actual FIFA match (or whatever the terminology is), so the WC qualifying matches, Nations League matches are the ones that will cap tie a player.
I think Musah needs to file a one time switch to play for the US but not sure about Gioachinni.
He looked very solid.oh no said:
ooof. didn't watch the 2nd half v wales and was in and out today. Didn't realize Johnny played. How'd he look?
I don't think he did anything to hurt his stock and is definitely in contention for the backup spot. The nice thing is he may also be eligible for the U-23's as well.oh no said:
ooof. didn't watch the 2nd half v wales and was in and out today. Didn't realize Johnny played. How'd he look?
Konrad will be fine as he is young and has played in the US youth teams; U-16, U-18 and U-20's. Definitely will be in consideration for U-23's/Olympic team.
"And liberals, being liberals, will double down on failure." - dedgod
Ok, I wasn't sure. Thought he may have captained England's youth team in official competitions.PatAg said:I read that Musah does not because he only ever played friendlies for the England youth teams somehowakm91 said:
I think it has to be an actual FIFA match (or whatever the terminology is), so the WC qualifying matches, Nations League matches are the ones that will cap tie a player.
I think Musah needs to file a one time switch to play for the US but not sure about Gioachinni.
"And liberals, being liberals, will double down on failure." - dedgod
Are these all the non-cap tied Intl players from the squad today? I'm not sure what risk USA has of not getting some of them (i.e. if Brazil has no interest in Johnny). Hopefully there are some FIFA cup events in the next few months were we can pretty much lock some of these guys down.
Johnny Cardoso: Brazil
Yunus Musah: England, Italy, Ghana
Nicholas Gioacchini: Italy, Jamaica
Konrad de la Fuente: Spain
Sebastian Soto: Chile (previously rejected a call-up that would have cap-tied him to Chile, not yet tied to USA)
Owen Otasowie: England
Chituru Odunze: Canada, England
Johnny Cardoso: Brazil
Yunus Musah: England, Italy, Ghana
Nicholas Gioacchini: Italy, Jamaica
Konrad de la Fuente: Spain
Sebastian Soto: Chile (previously rejected a call-up that would have cap-tied him to Chile, not yet tied to USA)
Owen Otasowie: England
Chituru Odunze: Canada, England
Yea, I think the first one is in January.akm91 said:
I think it has to be an actual FIFA match (or whatever the terminology is), so the WC qualifying matches, Nations League matches are the ones that will cap tie a player.
I think Musah needs to file a one time switch to play for the US but not sure about Gioachinni.
Weah isn't cap-tied either.oh no said:
Are these all the non-cap tied Intl players from the squad today? I'm not sure what risk USA has of not getting some of them (i.e. if Brazil has no interest in Johnny). Hopefully there are some FIFA cup events in the next few months were we can pretty much lock some of these guys down.
Johnny Cardoso: Brazil
Yunus Musah: England, Italy, Ghana
Nicholas Gioacchini: Italy, Jamaica
Konrad de la Fuente: Spain
Sebastian Soto: Chile (previously rejected a call-up that would have cap-tied him to Chile, not yet tied to USA)
Owen Otasowie: England
Chituru Odunze: Canada, England
oh yeah. I guess Weah has only played in friendlies. I wouldn't expect Liberia to be a risk for Weah, and he has previously said choosing USA over France was easy, but if France really wants him and he's not tied yet, you never know.
Weah, Soto and de la Fuente all featured on multiple youth teams prominently so hopefully that will emotionally tie them to the senior team more.
"And liberals, being liberals, will double down on failure." - dedgod
Gotcha. I was thinking of the traditional January camp/friendlies. I didn't realize there were official matches in January. WC Qualifying doesn't start until March so that's why I was confused.Superblood Wolfmoon said:Yea, I think the first one is in January.akm91 said:
I think it has to be an actual FIFA match (or whatever the terminology is), so the WC qualifying matches, Nations League matches are the ones that will cap tie a player.
I think Musah needs to file a one time switch to play for the US but not sure about Gioachinni.
"And liberals, being liberals, will double down on failure." - dedgod
I may be wrong but I could've sworn we had one then. May be March.akm91 said:Gotcha. I was thinking of the traditional January camp/friendlies. I didn't realize there were official matches in January. WC Qualifying doesn't start until March so that's why I was confused.Superblood Wolfmoon said:Yea, I think the first one is in January.akm91 said:
I think it has to be an actual FIFA match (or whatever the terminology is), so the WC qualifying matches, Nations League matches are the ones that will cap tie a player.
I think Musah needs to file a one time switch to play for the US but not sure about Gioachinni.
WCQ March
Nations League isnt until June
Gold Cup July
Nations League isnt until June
Gold Cup July
Also Olympic qualifiers sometime in March with the games in July-August.
I stand corrected. My apologies.PatAg said:
WCQ March
Nations League isnt until June
Gold Cup July
I thought there was something early on too, so I may have missed somethingSuperblood Wolfmoon said:I stand corrected. My apologies.PatAg said:
WCQ March
Nations League isnt until June
Gold Cup July
I think Musah is the main one I'd like to get tied down. I thought he was the best performer over the two games. England has a pretty young talent pool, a lot of which are starting to play significant minutes for Premier League teams. Basically its gonna be a long road to break into that team whereas I'd say he looks like he should be starting (as did a lot of these young guys) for our first team.
According to Berhalter in the press conference after teh game, there is an international window in March and WCQ is in SeptemberPatAg said:
WCQMarchSeptember
Nations League isnt until June
Gold Cup July
Berhalter said he expects another friendly to be scheduled in December. This one will be in the US and will feature almost all MLS players......yay
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