Nice! That's pretty amazing progress. Our time is coming!

Don't forget a coach too! - Oops RB Salzburg played on 12/1 and not 12/2.

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Don't forget a coach too! - Oops RB Salzburg played on 12/1 and not 12/2.

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Man I hope he can pull off the upset next week and move on to the knockout round. His team is fun to watch.

deadbq03 said:

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akm91 said:

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Don't forget a coach too! - Oops RB Salzburg played on 12/1 and not 12/2.

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Man I hope he can pull off the upset next week and move on to the knockout round. His team is fun to watch.

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I'm not saying we need to move on from Berhalter yet (though I wouldn't be opposed if things don't change as we shift into qualifying), but whenever we do Marsch better basically be "the list".

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deadbq03 said:

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akm91 said:

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Don't forget a coach too! - Oops RB Salzburg played on 12/1 and not 12/2.

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Man I hope he can pull off the upset next week and move on to the knockout round. His team is fun to watch.

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I'm not saying we need to move on from Berhalter yet (though I wouldn't be opposed if things don't change as we shift into qualifying), but whenever we do Marsch better basically be "the list".

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I hate to say it, but I think Marsch is already too prestigious for the job.

He could snap his fingers and get a mid-table Bundesliga job that pays 3x Berhalter's salary whenever he wants it. (He might already be making that much; having trouble finding his current salary).

In all likelihood, he's going to end up somewhere that pays 10x or more Berhalter's salary whenever he's ready to move on.

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fig96 said:

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deadbq03 said:

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akm91 said:

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Don't forget a coach too! - Oops RB Salzburg played on 12/1 and not 12/2.

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Man I hope he can pull off the upset next week and move on to the knockout round. His team is fun to watch.

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I'm not saying we need to move on from Berhalter yet (though I wouldn't be opposed if things don't change as we shift into qualifying), but whenever we do Marsch better basically be "the list".

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I hate to say it, but I think Marsch is already too prestigious for the job.

If the figures I saw are accurate, he already makes 4x Berhalter's salary.

In all likelihood, he's going to end up somewhere that pays 10x or more whenever he's ready to move on.

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He'll end up in the Bundasleiga. German sensibilities are closer to Americans than other foreign countries. Or so I've been told.

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fig96 said:

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akm91 said:

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Don't forget a coach too! - Oops RB Salzburg played on 12/1 and not 12/2.

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Man I hope he can pull off the upset next week and move on to the knockout round. His team is fun to watch.

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I'm not saying we need to move on from Berhalter yet (though I wouldn't be opposed if things don't change as we shift into qualifying), but whenever we do Marsch better basically be "the list".

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I hate to say it, but I think Marsch is already too prestigious for the job.

He could snap his fingers and get a mid-table Bundesliga job that pays 3x Berhalter's salary whenever he wants it. (He might already be making that much; having trouble finding his current salary).

In all likelihood, he's going to end up somewhere that pays 10x or more Berhalter's salary whenever he's ready to move on.

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I can absolutely see that, but he's also said as recently as this summer that he's hopeful to coach the national team at some point. We can hope.

@ Lookguys...

Dang, you caught my message before my edit... I was mistaken about his current salary.

I could see him going to the UK also.

@ fig96 - yeah I'm hopeful that his desire will lead to a return at some point, I just don't see him being a viable option for USMNT for the next decade, at least. My hope is that he flies high, gives Americans a good name in Europe, and then someday feels the call to return home and coach the USMNT, and maybe by that point it'll be a more prestigious job (although to be fair, even the best-paid international coaches get paid a pittance compared to the best club coaches, and rightfully so, it's far less work).

What are midtable top league salaries like? Top salaries are like $5mm?

How much does gggg make?

Google keeps failing me. Berhalter's salary is largely a mystery, but it's clearly more than the number that pops up in Google when you google it.

In this article, they estimate his salary exceeds $1MM a year, which is more than 3x what Google quotes.

Still, there's only 2 Bundesliga coaches that make less than that. Factor in taxes and cost of living and there's maybe only 5 that make less. (Source)

deadbq03 said:

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fig96 said:

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akm91 said:

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Don't forget a coach too! - Oops RB Salzburg played on 12/1 and not 12/2.

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Man I hope he can pull off the upset next week and move on to the knockout round. His team is fun to watch.

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I'm not saying we need to move on from Berhalter yet (though I wouldn't be opposed if things don't change as we shift into qualifying), but whenever we do Marsch better basically be "the list".

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I hate to say it, but I think Marsch is already too prestigious for the job.

He could snap his fingers and get a mid-table Bundesliga job that pays 3x Berhalter's salary whenever he wants it. (He might already be making that much; having trouble finding his current salary).

In all likelihood, he's going to end up somewhere that pays 10x or more Berhalter's salary whenever he's ready to move on.

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There is no such thing as being too prestigious for a national team job. National teams have top tier coaches all the time, it mostly has to do with availability at the time the national team is looking for a new coach.

Berhalter's salary is not a standard national team coach's salary. He was paid what someone with his experience and pedigree is worth.

For example, https://www.forbes.com/sites/ricardogeromel/2014/06/13/the-highest-paid-coaches-at-the-the-world-cup/?sh=2d7113d84274

Marsch has also already stated he would want to do it at some point as well.

Fair points on salary. We did pay Klinsmann far better.

But I think in terms of prestige, it's absolutely possible to be well beyond a national team job.

Klopp, Pep, and Zidane make 3-5 times the salary of their home countries' national teams, and I'd argue that all three are more popular than those countries' coaches. (Shoot I can't even put a name to Spain's).

You're correct on timing; if any of the above got sacked, they might be more than willing to go coach for their countries... and given Klopp's comments on not renewing his Liverpool contract, he seems like the kind of guy that would go back home and coach the national team... but that's what it'd be - a voluntary step back into a new role that's more challenging when soccer is being played, but less challenging on a day to day basis.

Some folks think Marsch could be next in line for the BVB job. That's one example of a job within his reach that would absolutely be more prestigious than USMNT.

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Fair points on salary. We did pay Klinsmann far better.

But I think in terms of prestige, it's absolutely possible to be well beyond a national team job.

Klopp, Pep, and Zidane make 3-5 times the salary of their home countries' national teams, and I'd argue that all three are more popular than those countries' coaches. (Shoot I can't even put a name to Spain's).

You're correct on timing; if any of the above got sacked, they might be more than willing to go coach for their countries... and given Klopp's comments on not renewing his Liverpool contract, he seems like the kind of guy that would go back home and coach the national team... but that's what it'd be - a voluntary step back into a new role that's more challenging when soccer is being played, but less challenging on a day to day basis.

Some folks think Marsch could be next in line for the BVB job. That's one example of a job within his reach that would absolutely be more prestigious than USMNT.

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I definitely agree about a top tier club being seen as more prestigious than a ntaional team. I've also read that Marsch is considered in line for RB Leipzig as well. I think, from interviews I have read and seen with Marsch, that he definitely intends to coach for the national team at some point.

The desire gives me hope.

I hope when the timing is right for him and us that it happens. His resume as an MLS and European coach would put him in a unique place to understand both kinds of players and knit them together into a cohesive team.

apparently T&T is the team we are most likely going to play, and we will play away.

I say we run the score up in Couva, and just crush them.

If we don't win or draw every match, gregggg needs to ggggggggo.

Look guys... said:

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If we don't win or draw every match, gregggg needs to ggggggggo.

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I dont think we have ever done that in WCQ, so that seems unrealistic

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Look guys... said:

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If we don't win or draw every match, gregggg needs to ggggggggo.

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I dont think we have ever done that in WCQ, so that seems unrealistic

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That's how much I like Greggggg.

Pretty pretty pretty good day.

I freakin* love Weston McKennie. He's a kid that never played soccer and moved to Germany and like 9 goals in his first game. Against German kids.

Wasn't he like 6 or 7 when that happened?

jeffk said:

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Wasn't he like 6 or 7 when that happened?

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Yeah. You'd be pretty hard pressed to score 9 goals against 6 year old Germans.

I was a late bloomer.

jeffk said:

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I was a late bloomer.

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I meant now.

See... that's true but also hurtful.

jeffk said:

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See... that's true but also hurtful.

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All in good fun my man.

No offense intended.

I mean you'd do well against American 6 year olds if that's any consolidation.

Haha, none taken. I was bossing the kids I was coaching on my son's U7 team pre-COVID, so at least I have that going for me.