* Liverpool 2020-2021 Thread *

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Chelsea played as listlessly as we did yesterday.
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and we're out!

daltonhughes18
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jeffk said:

and we're out!


Undefeated in ESL play!!!
AG@RICE
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John Henry apologizes:

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"I want to apologise to all the fans and supporters of Liverpool Football Club for the disruption I caused over the past 48 hours," Henry said in a video address on Wednesday.

"It goes without saying but should be said that the project put forward was never going to stand without the support of the fans. No-one ever thought differently in England. Over these 48 hours you were very clear that it would not stand. We heard you. I heard you.

Not really happy that he thought the fans would be ok with this. I'm even more unhappy that Liverpool wasn't one of the first ones out the door when it became clear that this was a disaster.

His apology rings hollow. We know who you are Mr. Henry. Don't expect to be forgiven anytime soon.
jeffk
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I don't disagree, but it is nice to see someone take some personal responsibility and attach their name to it instead of the vague passive-voice press releases we've been seeing from clubs the last 24 hours.
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FSG has stepped in it badly several times since they took charge.

They've also listened to feedback and changed things when they do it.

Would be nice if they'd understand after the furlough fiasco just what a terrible idea and look this was, but they've done a lot of good with the bad and I think they truly want the best for the club...even if they don't always understand what the fans actually want.

A mea culpa is better than just withdrawing and silence, anyway.
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What I don't understand is how they didn't do some market research before moving ahead with this plan. Hit up 5 pubs around Anfield, it ain't hard, and see what the fans feel (and how strongly they feel it).

It is also a bad look to make such a huge decision, then not have the stones to carry it through. It looks like what it is, a dumb / unthoughtful money grab - where they ended up looking even dumber for having attempted to do it.
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I think one of the hardest things for Americans to deal with when trying to understand the UK is how hyperbolic their press and culture are. Especially when anything remotely related to the "working class" is brought up. If you listened to Gary Neville over the last few days, you would think Hitler had been reincarnated and he was running the six breakaway clubs. I think that's why Jurgen Klopp called out Neville's rhetoric when asked about the ESL after the Leeds game.

The people calling for FSG to sell the club are ridiculous. FSG brought Liverpool FC out of the stone age. They preserved and improved Anfield, and have invested in the clubs infrastructure to ensure its future. Management in every organization makes questionable decisions now and then. Liverpool is lucky enough to have an owner that at least listens when the fans go berzerk. If the ESL was happening and Liverpool were not involved, the same people going insane right now would be on the other side of the fence bemoaning that Liverpool were being left in the dust.

The football pyramid has some very serious issues. It's basically a group of rich men that gamble borrowed money for a chance to collect a piece of EPL's pie. If you look at the state of the club in comparison to its peers, Liverpool is in an enviable position primarily because of FSG's stewardship.
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The other danger in asking for FSG to sell the club is that the realistic buyers are few and mostly russian/middle eastern. Sometimes the devil you know is best.
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Yeah, I'm not on team #FSGout either. They've run the club rather smartly (this present fiasco nonwithstanding) and I don't want to see us be the latest club bought as a sportswashing front.
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Klopp wrote a piece for the program this weekend about the week's events.

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/432027-jurgen-klopp-programme-notes-newcastle-united#
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630 kick means I get to watch some football all by myself in a quiet house!
jeffk
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1-0
ChipFTAC01
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Hammering away at the goal.
jeffk
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Lol we're so bad.
jeffk
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Every week we get handed a top four spot on a silver platter. "All you have to do is beat this team from the lower half of the table and you can have CL or EL play next year!"

Us: "Lolz. Nope! We hate scoring goals and winning games and would much prefer that sixth spot."
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Make 2021 end.

ChipFTAC01
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Derby day.
jeffk
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Pardon us while we riot against the Glazers. Your imminent demise from UCL next season will be slightly delayed while we clean up our mess.
jeffk
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Take your time. We're ready whenever.
jeffk
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Kickoff delayed. No start time specified yet. Both teams are stuck in their hotels currently.
joemeister
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Man U should be forced to forfeit and be docked 30 points!
jeffk
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Lol. Trying to find actual coverage of the protests and game delays this morning is super frustrating with actual news organizations joining the players and teams in their social media boycott.
jeffk
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Game called off.
jeffk
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Moved the ManU game to a weekday. It'll be interesting to see if their fans allow any further home games to be played this season.

jeffk
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dammit city
Out in Left Field
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Mane Mane Mane Mane

Mane!
jeffk
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Three points and a clean sheet... at home... in the year of our Lord 2021???
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So looking at top 4 contenders, here's my projections:

Chelsea (64 pts)

V Arsenal (W)
V Leicester (D)
@Villa (D)

Finish on 69 pts

Leicester (63 pts)
@United ((W)
@Chelsea (D)
VSpurs (W)

Finish in 70 pts

West Ham (58 pts)
V Everton (W)
@Brighton (W)
@West Bron (D)
V Southampton (D)

Finish on 66

Spurs @56
V Wolves (D)
V Villa (l)
@Leicester (l)

Finish @57

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Need to win out to tie Chelsea. They're +5 in GD.
jeffk
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Four games left over two weeks. Need wins in all of them to have a shot at CL (or maybe even EL) play next year.

Such a crazy year. We were top of the table at the end of 2020 calendar year and have just been beyond bad for the past four months.
 
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