I'm certain Liverpool are just going to gift Burnley a goal.

This is a 1-0 loss in the making...maybe worse.

Seems like I've seen this game played out like 15x this year....

Huge

LOL...my illegal stream cut out I missed the goal....

NAT

BIG
BAD
NAT

Good victory. I'm glad Burnley didn't park the bus.

A sound win over a bottom half team?? A little late but I'll gladly accept it.

AG@RICE said:

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LOL...my illegal stream cut out I missed the goal....

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Karma for your previous post.

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AG@RICE said:

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LOL...my illegal stream cut out I missed the goal....

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Karma for your previous post.

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100%...I'd gladly take the same karmic penalty in the future.

Final?

0-3. Bobby scored just before the half, big nat with a header at about 60' and Ox had a beauty of a goal at about the 85th.

New kit announced!

It's time! 🤩

🥁 Introducing our new 2021/22 @nikefootball home kit 🔥pic.twitter.com/9R0moExEmN

— Liverpool FC USA (@LFCUSA) May 20, 2021

Not sure if I like it or hate it yet.

Not bad. Like them better than this year's.

I know it's a foregone conclusion but no Gini in that video.

Incredible that after all of the success at Fortress Anfield, they are going to win more points on the road than at home this season.

I would love to hear a good sports psychologist's take on Liverpool's season. They were 68 games unbeaten at home then lost 6 in a row, mostly to bad teams. I'm sure the lack of fans was a major factor. What's so interesting to me about this year is that none of the other "Big 6" clubs really improved or digressed from where they finished last year; the biggest change was Man U at +8 points if they win Sunday. Liverpool is the only exception. From the rest of the league, West Ham and Aston Villa are greatly improved, but 2 of the 3 promoted clubs are going down and Sheffield United are the team that had the biggest digression.

Shalke is the one we need a documentary one.

What a disastrous few seasons they've had.

BenderRodriguez said:

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Shalke is the one we need a documentary one.

What a disastrous few seasons they've had.

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No kidding. Absent bankruptcy issues like what happened at Leeds and Rangers, I don't think I've ever seen a team tank harder, faster than Shalke over the last two seasons.

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joemeister said:

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I would love to hear a good sports psychologist's take on Liverpool's season. They were 68 games unbeaten at home then lost 6 in a row, mostly to bad teams. I'm sure the lack of fans was a major factor. What's so interesting to me about this year is that none of the other "Big 6" clubs really improved or digressed from where they finished last year; the biggest change was Man U at +8 points if they win Sunday. Liverpool is the only exception. From the rest of the league, West Ham and Aston Villa are greatly improved, but 2 of the 3 promoted clubs are going down and Sheffield United are the team that had the biggest digression.

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I actually think the diagnosis is a 3 letter abbreviation: VVD.

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I think VVD getting injured, along with Gomez and Matip, and Fabinho being moved to CB is what it was. We lost him in midfield and it killed us.

So we basically lost 2 starters by VVD going out.

We've started a ridiculous number of CB pairings. Lack of consistency there really weakened our overall confidence, I think.

Basically, screw Jordan Pickford.

jeffk said:

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We've started a ridiculous number of CB pairings. Lack of consistency there really weakened our overall confidence, I think.

Basically, screw Jordan Pickford.

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Yea eff that guy

OregonAggie said:

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AG@RICE said:

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joemeister said:

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I would love to hear a good sports psychologist's take on Liverpool's season. They were 68 games unbeaten at home then lost 6 in a row, mostly to bad teams. I'm sure the lack of fans was a major factor. What's so interesting to me about this year is that none of the other "Big 6" clubs really improved or digressed from where they finished last year; the biggest change was Man U at +8 points if they win Sunday. Liverpool is the only exception. From the rest of the league, West Ham and Aston Villa are greatly improved, but 2 of the 3 promoted clubs are going down and Sheffield United are the team that had the biggest digression.

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I actually think the diagnosis is a 3 letter abbreviation: VVD.

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I think VVD getting injured, along with Gomez and Matip, and Fabinho being moved to CB is what it was. We lost him in midfield and it killed us.

So we basically lost 2 starters by VVD going out.

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I think it also cost Liverpool their confidence and aggression.

When you play a high press offense, you have to take a bit more risk and push people forward. VVD was the ultimate luxury. If you lost the ball or couldn't get back, he was going to snuff out the danger 99% of time. He is literally the biggest and fastest human I've ever seen play CB with perfect instinct. He gives midfielders and outside backs unlimited confidence to push forward and attack. In my opinion, he was clearly the best player in the world when he got injured because of this total team effect.

I think this also explains the home/away disparity seen this year. In general, teams are more likely to attack when playing at home. They are more likely to expect to win and want to score goals. This plays perfectly into Liverpool's hands. The press really only works if a team attempts to play the ball out of the back. In contrast, when teams would visit Anfield they are more content to sit back and just boom it downfield. Without VVD to cover the back, Liverpool was not able to attack with the same aggression and confidence. As a result, the high press was very ineffective and teams were quite successful at simply bunkering down and booting it long. Eventually this tactic would produce enough goals to cancel out the anemic press and god awful finishing.

To be honest, I'm not sure a high press offense can work unless you have a top 5 CB at the back. Barca also struggled in the past with out Pique and Puyol in different occasions for similar reasons. Its really hard to press forward if you don't have peace of mind at the back.

I've also left out the fact that VVD is also Liverpool's best CB with the ball at his feet. Nat Phillips or Rhys Williams simply don't have the touch and focus to play the ball effectively from deep. Watching them pass the ball around our box yesterday was incredibly stressful...

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OregonAggie said:

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AG@RICE said:

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joemeister said:

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I would love to hear a good sports psychologist's take on Liverpool's season. They were 68 games unbeaten at home then lost 6 in a row, mostly to bad teams. I'm sure the lack of fans was a major factor. What's so interesting to me about this year is that none of the other "Big 6" clubs really improved or digressed from where they finished last year; the biggest change was Man U at +8 points if they win Sunday. Liverpool is the only exception. From the rest of the league, West Ham and Aston Villa are greatly improved, but 2 of the 3 promoted clubs are going down and Sheffield United are the team that had the biggest digression.

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I actually think the diagnosis is a 3 letter abbreviation: VVD.

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I think VVD getting injured, along with Gomez and Matip, and Fabinho being moved to CB is what it was. We lost him in midfield and it killed us.

So we basically lost 2 starters by VVD going out.

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I think it also cost Liverpool their confidence and aggression.

When you play a high press offense, you have to take a bit more risk and push people forward. VVD was the ultimate luxury. If you lost the ball or couldn't get back, he was going to snuff out the danger 99% of time. He is literally the biggest and fastest human I've ever seen play CB with perfect instinct. He gives midfielders and outside backs unlimited confidence to push forward and attack. In my opinion, he was clearly the best player in the world when he got injured because of this total team effect.

I think this also explains the home/away disparity seen this year. In general, teams are more likely to attack when playing at home. They are more likely to expect to win and want to score goals. This plays perfectly into Liverpool's hands. The press really only works if a team attempts to play the ball out of the back. In contrast, when teams would visit Anfield they are more content to sit back and just boom it downfield. Without VVD to cover the back, Liverpool was not able to attack with the same aggression and confidence. As a result, the high press was very ineffective and teams were quite successful at simply bunkering down and booting it long. Eventually this tactic would produce enough goals to cancel out the anemic press and god awful finishing.

To be honest, I'm not sure a high press offense can work unless you have a top 5 CB at the back. Barca also struggled in the past with out Pique and Puyol in different occasions for similar reasons. Its really hard to press forward if you don't have peace of mind at the back.

I've also left out the fact that VVD is also Liverpool's best CB with the ball at his feet. Nat Phillips or Rhys Williams simply don't have the touch and focus to play the ball effectively from deep. Watching them pass the ball around our box yesterday was incredibly stressful...

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Bro that's exactly what I said but more wordy.







Hahahaha. I agree 100% and I felt that when we lost Matip, we also lost the last CB on the roster that was confident at playing longer balls upfield that Phillips/Williams won't. VVD could flip the field with a long ball that was extremely accurate and our young guys don't even want to pass the ball to a holding midfielder. Well said.

Its probably an argument I've practiced too many times.

I got a buddy that is a ManU fan that is very dismissive of the importance of VVD..

Looks like Jamie Carragher's son might sign with Everton from Wigan.

Jota might play tomorrow.

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Looks like Jamie Carragher's son might sign with Everton from Wigan.

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I think Jamie grew up as an Everton fan but they didn't show him the love that Liverpool did when he was of age to sign with a club.

Regardless, it'll be cool to see another Carragher on the field.

He did. There's a lot of boyhead blues who were Liverpool stars. Michael Owen, Ian Rush, Steve Mcmanananan, Robbie Fowler I think?