* Liverpool 2020-2021 Thread *

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Everton fan here..

Yikes. I can't tell what influenced that VAR call. Looked like a classic derby today. Was hoping we'd get the Liverpool that showed for Villa.
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I was frying so no live posting, but jeesh that was a horrific display of officiating. To not even give a foul for the Pickford challenge on VVD was just incredible. (Edit as I realize they couldn't give a foul due to the offside call, but it still could have been carded.) Two footed past the ball into the mid leg of the attacker? That's the type of thing VAR is supposed to catch if missed live.

The offside call on Hendo's goal I get but I hate. There is no margin for offside with VAR. You're on or off and I guess Mane's elbow was off. It's dumb and pretty antithetical to how soccer is played, but that's the rule now.

Anyhow, glad to have Mane back, Mo's goal was superb, we miss Alisson, defense is shakey, and Everton is a lot better this year than last.

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As a neutral...what in the world was that offside call. VAR is awful
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I'm going to be very grumpy today. That was a terrible offside. Richarlisson is Jersey shore trash.

I really wish that that TAA would remember he's a defender. I'm really excited about Thiago. Pickford did some really dumb things today but also made some tremendous saves. Mo's strike was incredible. Calm as you like.

It's hard not to love DCL.
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I still don't understand the VAR decision. It should be related to wherever their butt is, a toe versus an elbow / when they clearly look level is just stupid. Especially when that player didn't even score the goal
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VAR was better when it helped Liverpool. Let's go back to that
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Early reports are that VVD ruptured his ACL. Nothing from the team yet.
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Fuuuuuucccckkkkkkk
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Whelp, that was a fun title defense while it lasted.
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Well i guess it's time for Matip and Gomez to step it up. We really needed a new CB signing this off-season and didn't get it. I imagine we address that in January as best we can.
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Anyone seen anything on Thiago yet?
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Matip has a minor injury as well, so you - Yes, you - are playing CB Wednesday versus Ajax.
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I'm not sure how rosters work for CL. Are we locked into just Gomez, Matip and Virg for the CL this year?

I assume if we're down a CB or two well see more of Fabinho in the back and Milner/Ox/Gini in MF?
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Pickford won't face a retroactive suspension for his challenge on VVD. I think he should - it was reckless and dangerous, which is pretty much what red cards are supposed to punish. That said, I'm more upset with the fact that the league is basically covering up for the game officials and the VAR official who missed a pretty obvious foul in-game. Also, the team was told early the incident wasn't reviewed during the game as VAR had been focusing on the offside call, but now we're being told that yes, VAR reviewed Pickford's tackle in-game and decided not to card him (ridiculous and probably also a lie). Anyway, I don't care if Pickford misses time, that doesn't really affect me or Liverpool one way or another, it just sucks that the league is choosing to back an obvious error instead of enforcing rules designed to keep players safe.
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Yeah, I think we're locked into the roster we submitted earlier - https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/clubs/7889--liverpool/squad/

So we've got Gomez and probably Fab paired up on Wednesday. We also have Very Large Bill (Rhys Williams) but man, he's young and it scares me to see CL-level attackers running at him. Still no word on Thiago (thanks for that also, Everton). So yeah, your midfield prediction is pretty solid.
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Does anyone subscribe to the athletic and can tell.me where the hell to enter a promo code? I've wanted to sign up for months but can find a place to enter a code as I'd just as soon not pay full price?
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I have subscribed since it's launch. If I recall correctly, the promo code was input at time of payment. Their EPL coverage is second to none.
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Yeah for years the ads that pop up in social media look like great articles to read. Bob Sturm from the ticket jn Dallas started covering the Cowboys a few years ago. All of the articles I read (or even just the headlines) look fantastic. I've listened to the red agenda for the last couple of years.
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jeffk said:

Pickford won't face a retroactive suspension for his challenge on VVD. I think he should - it was reckless and dangerous, which is pretty much what red cards are supposed to punish. That said, I'm more upset with the fact that the league is basically covering up for the game officials and the VAR official who missed a pretty obvious foul in-game. Also, the team was told early the incident wasn't reviewed during the game as VAR had been focusing on the offside call, but now we're being told that yes, VAR reviewed Pickford's tackle in-game and decided not to card him (ridiculous and probably also a lie). Anyway, I don't care if Pickford misses time, that doesn't really affect me or Liverpool one way or another, it just sucks that the league is choosing to back an obvious error instead of enforcing rules designed to keep players safe.
I can somewhat understand why the VAR official didn't give a red card, especially if the match official saw the challenge and chose to take no action. The in-game and post-game reaction of pretty much the entire soccer media saying it was a red card challenge is, once again, drawing scrutiny to how poor EPL officiating has been for the last few years.

I'm more perplexed by the off-side call. They showed the image the VAR was looking at during the game. There was no way that was off-side, and the ref made the decision very quickly. Last season, when the super tight off-side decisions were made, they would show a close up image of what lead to the ref's decision. Maybe that policy has changed this year to try to draw attention away from the way the decisions were made.
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Do yourself a favor and listen to the post game podcast on the Blood red channel. Fast forward to about 22min foe th commentary for some wander named Owen who apparently has his own pod ast called Kop On. The guy is obviously doing a bit
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ChipFTAC01 said:

I'm not sure how rosters work for CL. Are we locked into just Gomez, Matip and Virg for the CL this year?

I assume if we're down a CB or two well see more of Fabinho in the back and Milner/Ox/Gini in MF?
I'm pretty sure teams are allowed to add up to three players to their CL squad after the winter window.

But I expressly forbid y'all from taking Upamecano until July.
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Yeah, you can make some changes if you get to the final 16.
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Game on TV English language TV today or will I be Univision ing?
jeffk
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CBS all-access has all the CL games
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jeffk said:




We have to sign at least 1 CB in January and they need to just make it happen. I feel like they need to sell Gini for whatever Barca will spend, get Shaqiri to agree to a transfer, and spend good money on a CB.

Carragher said yesterday that we just need to pay for someone good and not haggle about the price and I fully agree. Just get it done.

Until then, let's hope Gomez can stay healthy and Matip can get there...but I don't have faith that either are long term answers.
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With the signing of Thiago, J really hoped Fabino would be a regular at CB - just paired with VVD
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The Gomez-VVD pairing is excellent and it's amazing to see the difference between Joe with Virgil and Joe with anyone else. I love having Fab in the midfield shielding the CBs... especially when VVD is out. And yeah, having Thiago gave us a bit more flexibility in the midfield. But now we've lost both VVD and Thiago (thanks, Everton, you *******s) and Alisson is also out so that whole spine is shattered. I'm getting some very 2017 vibes this week.
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CBS Sports Network re-airs one CL match at 8pm after each matchday, but they haven't announced which one yet. CBS All-Access doesn't appear to have an a la carte option like B/R Live did where you could purchase a single game for $2.99 instead of signing up for the monthly service. Can't believe I'm saying this, but I wish CL was still on B/R Live & TNT.

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City vs Porto on Galavision instead of us.
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