Coming this summer apparently.

And for many here, this article will set the right tone.

https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a37220638/westworld-season-4/

Yikes. Flashbacks of how bad and uninteresting season 3 was are coming back.

Recently did a season one rewatch. Just brilliant stuff. And season two was fine. Had some odd set pieces but it was still good.

I'll def watch.

Don't really know where there is to go after season 3. Maybe it was just so bad I forgot how it ended,

Proposition Joe said:

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I mean, I liked Westworld... But best single season of TV of all time?

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There's a lot of tv I haven't seen, so my first line may not be quite as grand as it sounds.

TriAg2010 said:

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Season 2 held its own. The "investor demonstration" scene is one of my favorite moments in the series.

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I love that entire sequence. It starts with the fantastic Kanye cover, which leads to the club/bar, where the two hosts eventually show up to take Logan to the hotel room/demonstration. And then, yeah, here's scene/the demonstration itself, which is so damn clever, and so well-written...

If I remember correctly, season three ends with...

- Delores dead, sacrificing herself to destroy Rehoboam. I think she or Maeve kills Serac (Vincent Cassel) too, in the same scene/location?

- Maeve and Aaron Paul's character looking out over a rioting/chaotic Los Angeles, framed very much like the last shot of Fight Club, hinting that they'll try and lead this new, Rehoboam-less world?

- Bernard in a hotel room, entering the Sublime via some kind of headset (which we then see him come back from, years later, in the same hotel room, which made no sense to me at all).

- Evil Delores/Charlotte as the new big bad. And she has control over a host version of the Man In Black? I can't even remember how the real Man In Black died, though. I just remember being pissed when they killed him, for seemingly no reason, as his story had just gotten good.

Weird how the start of the pandemic feels so long ago now. I associate S3 of Westworld to the pandemic pretty strongly in my mind, same with BCS.

I'll be honest, as bad as the second half of season three was, I *am* looking forward to revisiting as a refresher. It'll be fun to catchup again and prep for whatever they're planning.

That said, again, I just don't know how any of the above point to any kind of compelling story going forward. We know that a version of Delores is back (there was one Delores pearl left, I think), as there are quite a few season four set pics out there with Evan Rachel Wood in costume, back in the future world. But I just don't really care about the plight of her clones at this point, like, at all. As premature as her death felt, her story should be done. Aaron Paul is back as well, and I guess his story could be interesting, in a post-apocalyptic world of sorts, but I'm not really all that intrigued by any of that. And maybe Bernard in the Sublime could be cool, but what he's even doing there, or why that's of interest to the plot, is beyond me.

One thing that gives me encouragement are the few glimpses of footage we got in that HBO 2022 preview trailer, where it looks like they've maybe kind of hit the reset button in a way, and are moving past some of these plot points? For instance, there's a shot of Aaron Paul in a futuristic city, but it's clean/not rioting, and everyone around him is a frozen host. I have absolutely no idea what that's even about, but maybe they're able to retool some of this in cool and interesting ways?

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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Weird how the start of the pandemic feels so long ago now. I associate S3 of Westworld to the pandemic pretty strongly in my mind, same with BCS.

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Same. We somehow got an entire season of this show on air, plus they wrote, filmed, and edited an entire new season, all during the pandemic.

Man, I forgot how incredible all of the season three trailers were. The "Sweet Child O' Mine" cover in the last one is just so good...

Agreed.

At the very least, it's never not interesting.

As a primer for next season, I rewatched the season three finale the other night, and it honestly wasn't as bad as I remember. It's still not *great*, but it's handled well enough, and the threads left dangling for season four are a bit more intriguing than I initially thought. Maybe it was just a lack of expectations this go around, but they at least left the opportunity for a good show to still potentially emerge. We shall see.

As for when season four might debut, as of now all we know is "summer," but I just checked the calendar, and there are exactly eight weeks between the end of HBO's next drama series The Time Traveler's Wife on June 19th, and the premiere of House of the Dragon on August 21. So my bet would be a June 26 premiere for Westworld season four, consisting of eight episodes, with a trailer hopefully here in the next couple of weeks (possibly ahead of the season finale of Winning Time at some point next week).

Man, I've got so much tv to catch up on that it's almost overwhelming.

Still gotta finish Winning Time, all of Ozark S4, Peacemaker (only seen the first episode), currently watching BCS, Barry, Moon Knight, and we'll have Obi-Wan and Stranger Things in less than a month.

And Tokyo Vice is another one I want to watch.

It's impossible to keep up these days.

While I still love season two, you're probably right. The filmmakers straight up admitted that they were so disappointed reddit and the like discovered the season one twist so early, they tried to make season two prediction-proof, and of course ended up overcomplicating it. The lesson? Never, ever write to try and outsmart reddit. If only because that's such a tiny portion of the viewing audience, so who gives a sh*t if they figure any of it out first?

Following S2 was such a headache. Still enjoyed the season, but damn.

Seriously, this looks wild. And I have absolutely no clue what's going on in any of it.

I'm just glad to finally have *something* after all this time, along with an official premiere date.

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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Following S2 was such a headache. Still enjoyed the season, but damn.

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It was so complicated that I had to listen to a podcast after just to understand what the hell I was watching. Bernard's face of constant confusion perfectly summed up that season.

Agree with all of this

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If I remember correctly, season three ends with...

- Delores dead, sacrificing herself to destroy Rehoboam. I think she or Maeve kills Serac (Vincent Cassel) too, in the same scene/location?

- Maeve and Aaron Paul's character looking out over a rioting/chaotic Los Angeles, framed very much like the last shot of Fight Club, hinting that they'll try and lead this new, Rehoboam-less world?

- Bernard in a hotel room, entering the Sublime via some kind of headset (which we then see him come back from, years later, in the same hotel room, which made no sense to me at all).

- Evil Delores/Charlotte as the new big bad. And she has control over a host version of the Man In Black? I can't even remember how the real Man In Black died, though. I just remember being pissed when they killed him, for seemingly no reason, as his story had just gotten good.

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Wasn't he killed in the post credits scene by his own robot? Something stupid like that that made me mad. How do you kill off one the main characters like that?

I've since rewatched the S3 finale, and yes, that's essentially what happens, but with a caveat. In the mid-credits scene, William visits the Dubai branch of Westworld HQ, where it's revealed that Charlores is essentially about to mass produce hosts in the real world, which will almost assuredly be under her control. But first, she reveals host William to real William, and host William slits real William's throat. However, I remembered reading an interview or something where the filmmakers hinted that real William might not be dead, and sure enough, watching this go around, we don't actually see real William die. He's just holding his neck as blood seeps out and they cut away. Granted, that would obviously be the end of most people, but for all we know Charlores ends up patching his neck with some kind of future healing glue or whatever, and real William is back this season in some capacity. I too was super pissed at that moment initially, but it sounds like everything might not be as it seems. We'll see…

So Barry leads to Westworld which leads to House of Dragons. Just need a Silicon Valley and VEEP equivalent next