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***** ANDOR SEASON 2 (Disney+, April 22 Debut) THREAD *****

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9:58p, 5/14/25
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Just finished episode 11. I could literally feel my heart racing as both Cassian and the isb were arriving to the safe house.

And holy crap I love K2SO….hes my favorite droid in all of Star Wars and he's got to be setup to do something awesome in episode 12….

Friday for the last one! Then rogue one all over again….

I noticed in this episode they made sure to make cassians hair the same way it is in rogue one….think he's even wearing the same dang clothes
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In reply to Fuzzy Dunlop • 10:43p, 5/14/25
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Fuzzy Dunlop said:
Madmarttigan said:
Did they really have to gut punch us with the baby at the end, come on man


I haven't thought of until your comment, and I don't see it mentioned on the thread. But it just struck me that Bix left knowing she was pregnant and knowing that Andor wouldn't continue his mission if he had a kid. She said in episode 9 that she was leaving because of "us" but she wasn't just talking about her and Andor.


Definitely a red rising moment, don't know if they kinda borrowed the idea from that book, except Andor never knows of or sees his kid
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In reply to vmiaptetr • 12:29a, 5/15/25
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vmiaptetr said:
Just realized Partagaz blamed Krennic for his failure to contain the secrecy of the Death Star. Had Krennic finished in time, Partagaz wouldn't have come across as a failure. And Krennic just replies, "I can't protect you, Leo."


Ben Mendelsohn absolutely stole every scene he was in. The sarcasm in his interrogation of Dedra, so great. And with Partagaz he even devolved into excuse-making mode like he did in Rogue One about being behind schedule.
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In reply to dave94 • 5:19a, 5/15/25
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I don't think he was really interrogating her. More like letting her know how much she screwed up and letting out his frustration.
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6:43a, 5/15/25
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I watched RO immediately after the final show. I noticed that in my mind it had switched from being a movie about Jyn Erso to being a movie about Andor. It was also much more fulfilling even if it was a bit more sad. I don't have the words to describe how awesome I think this show was.
God loves you so much He'll meet you where you are. He also loves you too much to allow to stay where you are.

We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
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8:06a, 5/15/25
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We re-watched Rogue One last weekend and something that jumped out at me was cassian was introduced to Jyn as "head of Rebel Intelligence." I'm curious if he got that title after Luthen's death and after Cass confirmed the intel from the guy on Kafrene.

How did they find Jyn so quickly - she was under an assumed name and in custody? I suppose while Cass was on Kafrene, Mon had someone run down the Galen Erso name to see who he was and any possible leads about him.
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8:49a, 5/15/25
Well it's sort of an out, but just because Cassian was leaving to meet Tivik at the end of Andor doesn't mean he met him the next day. The guy was super stressed out when they meet. It might have taken he and Cassian two weeks to finally meet safely, during which time the Rebel leaders are running down "Erso" and probably see that Saw had an Erso in his crew at some point and backtrack her from there. Having an alias wouldn't separate you much from your profile and such - especially with all the hologram tech they have.
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9:11a, 5/15/25
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I feel like there's a show every few years that's so good once it's over it just kind of leaves you with an empty feeling because you're not getting any more of it. Andor might be the only show that was this short, but feels that way. It was just so damn good. Part of it might be that so much of the recent Star Wars material, sans Skeleton Crew, is so lacking that it just elevates Andor even higher. I'll probably do a full rewatch all the way back to season one soon, I want to run it back again immediately.

I loved season one. With how slow season two started I was concerned that they lost the magic, but I was so wrong about that. This show just kept getting better as it went on. Hell of a run.
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9:21a, 5/15/25
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Oh yeah, forgot to mention in my review that I loved seeing B at the end. Running around like a dog on the farm.

Heartwarming.
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In reply to Brian Earl Spilner • 9:26a, 5/15/25
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And yet heartbreaking that he never saw Cassian again during those last 4 years
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In reply to Brian Earl Spilner • 9:39a, 5/15/25
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Brian Earl Spilner said:
LB12Diamond said:
Quick question guys. What did the BBY1 mean at the start last night? I thought it meant 1 year prior to Rougue One but this show ends with start of R1, and Star Wars starts right at the end of R1 so not sure what it means.


I was confused about this too at first but since the Battle of Yavin is days away, that's when it would be become "year 0".

It's like a few days before New Years in the Star Wars calendar. Or a few days before the birth of Christ, more accurately.
Is it days away, we do not know how long between meeting with Yarik and Jen being rescued for instance. The pacing of Andor and Rogue 1 make it feel like days but it could be weeks or months. Even a ANH it could take place over several weeks. Star wars as a whole does not give a sense of how long hyperspace travel takes (though rogue 1 makes it feel really fast unless Yavin is just a very short jump to scarif/edu).

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9:40a, 5/15/25
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Just told someone at my office that I believe Andor, both seasons, is quite likely the best TV series I have ever watched. Regardless if that's true or not for anyone else, I just felt like they nailed it from start to end. We all know what is going to happen, and yet they still managed to invest us in the characters to the point that we want to yell at them not to do X because that will lead to the Y we know is coming.

Damn you Disney for not doing the sequels right. Andor shows definitively that you are capable of it, but you just can't quit stepping on your own dicks in your quest to agendize Star Wars rather than simply producing great Star Wars movies/shows.
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9:42a, 5/15/25
I got my wife to watch Andor by telling her to forget it's Star Wars or sci/fi and just think about it as a show about a resistance against an occupying force, like anything we've watched about World War II. In that mindframe, she loved it, especially the stuff on Ferrix.
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In reply to Cinco Ranch Aggie • 9:56a, 5/15/25
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Yes

I agree with you for shows that had only a couple of seasons. It's easily the best bc there's nothing to knock it. Try to rank the top three characters/actors is very hard bc there are so many great ones.

I can't compare it to GOT, Sopranos, The Americans, Harry Potter etc bc there were so many seasons they were going to have some missteps.
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In reply to AustinScubaAg • 10:08a, 5/15/25
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AustinScubaAg said:
Brian Earl Spilner said:
LB12Diamond said:
Quick question guys. What did the BBY1 mean at the start last night? I thought it meant 1 year prior to Rougue One but this show ends with start of R1, and Star Wars starts right at the end of R1 so not sure what it means.


I was confused about this too at first but since the Battle of Yavin is days away, that's when it would be become "year 0".

It's like a few days before New Years in the Star Wars calendar. Or a few days before the birth of Christ, more accurately.
Is it days away, we do not know how long between meeting with Yarik and Jen being rescued for instance. The pacing of Andor and Rogue 1 make it feel like days but it could be weeks or months. Even a ANH it could take place over several weeks. Star wars as a whole does not give a sense of how long hyperspace travel takes (though rogue 1 makes it feel really fast unless Yavin is just a very short jump to scarif/edu).
I haven't seen Rogue One in a while but from what I recall it couldn't be more than a few days at most. Jyn gets "rescued", and from there everything has a pretty high sense of urgency.

And then all of ANH takes place over what, 3-4 days?

I think the end of Andor is probably a week or so before the Battle of Yavin. It's for sure not months.
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In reply to Brian Earl Spilner • 10:26a, 5/15/25
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Brian Earl Spilner said:
AustinScubaAg said:
Brian Earl Spilner said:
LB12Diamond said:
Quick question guys. What did the BBY1 mean at the start last night? I thought it meant 1 year prior to Rougue One but this show ends with start of R1, and Star Wars starts right at the end of R1 so not sure what it means.


I was confused about this too at first but since the Battle of Yavin is days away, that's when it would be become "year 0".

It's like a few days before New Years in the Star Wars calendar. Or a few days before the birth of Christ, more accurately.
Is it days away, we do not know how long between meeting with Yarik and Jen being rescued for instance. The pacing of Andor and Rogue 1 make it feel like days but it could be weeks or months. Even a ANH it could take place over several weeks. Star wars as a whole does not give a sense of how long hyperspace travel takes (though rogue 1 makes it feel really fast unless Yavin is just a very short jump to scarif/edu).
I haven't seen Rogue One in a while but from what I recall it couldn't be more than a few days at most. Jyn gets "rescued", and from there everything has a pretty high sense of urgency.

And then all of ANH takes place over what, 3-4 days?

I think the end of Andor is probably a week or so before the Battle of Yavin. It's for sure not months.
The pacing make everything seem urgent if when Andor was over 5 years. We are given no sense of how long it took to find Jen after the meeting with Yarik. Unless the last 3 episodes of Andor took 10 to 11 months the timing does not work. All we know is that this leads into the meeting with Yarik not to total timeline from here to the death star destruction.
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10:44a, 5/15/25
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I think the Death Star was still under construction during one of the last shots in Andor.
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10:52a, 5/15/25
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The firing dish (I don't know my death star anatomy) was installed at the beginning of Rogue one.
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10:58a, 5/15/25
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This is what Google AI spits out:

Quote:
The action in "Rogue One" is compressed into a few days, specifically five days. The events of the film, from the mission to steal the Death Star plans to the final confrontation, take place within this short timeframe. The end of "Andor" Season 2 is only a few days before "Rogue One" begins, with the final scene of the show indicating a delay of one day for a key event.
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11:38a, 5/15/25
I have the Star Wars Timelines book. Rogue One's timeline is shown over five to six pages (180-185), but of course everything is 1 BBY and not broken out in days. It does have a cool breakout of Scarif events over three parallel timelines: main character arc, ground battle, and space battle.
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In reply to Brian Earl Spilner • 11:54a, 5/15/25
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Brian Earl Spilner said:
This is what Google AI spits out:

Quote:
The action in "Rogue One" is compressed into a few days, specifically five days. The events of the film, from the mission to steal the Death Star plans to the final confrontation, take place within this short timeframe. The end of "Andor" Season 2 is only a few days before "Rogue One" begins, with the final scene of the show indicating a delay of one day for a key event.

If Google AI said that then we can know with certainty it is NOT 5 days lol
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In reply to PatAg • 1:35p, 5/15/25
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Ok but I think we can safely rule out "months".
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In reply to Max Power • 2:04p, 5/15/25
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I feel like there's a show every few years that's so good once it's over it just kind of leaves you with an empty feeling because you're not getting any more of it. Andor might be the only show that was this short, but feels that way. It was just so damn good. Part of it might be that so much of the recent Star Wars material, sans Skeleton Crew, is so lacking that it just elevates Andor even higher. I'll probably do a full rewatch all the way back to season one soon, I want to run it back again immediately.

I loved season one. With how slow season two started I was concerned that they lost the magic, but I was so wrong about that. This show just kept getting better as it went on. Hell of a run.
This how i felt after bad batch, even though Andor is better Bad Batch is my favorite.
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In reply to PatAg • 2:25p, 5/15/25
PatAg said:
Brian Earl Spilner said:
This is what Google AI spits out:

Quote:
The action in "Rogue One" is compressed into a few days, specifically five days. The events of the film, from the mission to steal the Death Star plans to the final confrontation, take place within this short timeframe. The end of "Andor" Season 2 is only a few days before "Rogue One" begins, with the final scene of the show indicating a delay of one day for a key event.

If Google AI said that then we can know with certainty it is NOT 5 days lol
Should jus ask IraqVeteranx2 for the answer
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9:13p, 5/15/25
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Little behind because we had family in town.

During the firing squad flashback scene it was nice to see Storm Troopers actually hit something.

Why would Luthen say the word Yavin knowing he was going to kill his ISB mole?The whole thing could have been a set up.

Interesting to think that all these people in Andor and Rogue one put all this effort into the rebellion and Han and Luke stumble in at the last second and get all the glory

Mendelson is so good as Krennick

Young Kleya was a great child actor

No way Dedra ends up in prison. She knows too much. She should end up with a blaster bolt in the head.

I realized one thing that makes this site so good at building tension up and up. It's everyone walking. Waking down the hallways as ISB tracks them, walking Mon out of the Senate, especially K-2SO. So many other shows would rush it have them run in and run out guns blazing.

Ultimately an amazing show presented in a really weird and frustrating format. Releasing three episodes at once on a Tuesday night at 9 ET did the show no favors. Doubt many people stayed up late on a Tuesday to watch all three. It kind of hurt Internet conversation because everyone was behind. Would releasing an episode a week been better? Or one episode Tues, Thur, Sun?
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In reply to Quad Dog • 9:17p, 5/15/25
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Quad Dog said:
No way Dedra ends up in prison. She knows too much. She should end up with a blaster bolt in the head.


I thought it was fitting they way they just willy nilly threw people in jail the first season.

Not to mention, they need help making parts for the 2nd Death Star.
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In reply to Quad Dog • 9:24p, 5/15/25
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I do think spreading the three episodes throughout the week would've been better.
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In reply to Quad Dog • 9:36p, 5/15/25
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Also, the first three episodes were still ultimately inconsiquntial to the following 9. The only thing that mattered in the first three was the Imperial Ghorman meeting.
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10:34p, 5/15/25
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disagree
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11:48p, 5/15/25
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Man, what a great show. We are pumped about watching R1 this weekend.

Does anyone else think it's weird that Kleya looks like Leia? I called her Mean Leia earlier in the thread. She's not as attractive as Leia.

And Kleya even rhymes with Leia.
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In reply to Quad Dog • 12:39a, 5/16/25
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Quad Dog said:
Also, the first three episodes were still ultimately inconsiquntial to the following 9. The only thing that mattered in the first three was the Imperial Ghorman meeting.


Agree, and I was reflecting on this early today. The first 3 episodes allowed for *some* character development, but were largely irrelevant to the larger plot. I kept waiting for that stolen tie fighter to come up again, and then it didn't matter at all. One of my few critiques is that they could have done more with these first few episodes of S2, or at least pulled the threads forward better. Like if the crime lord ever did anything other than host a party, or if the stolen tie was used on a later mission.

As is… I'd be tempted to tell someone to skip the first 3 episodes to avoid them getting bored and giving up on the season.
Thanks and gig'em
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2:46a, 5/16/25
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Did we all know Melshi was in Rogue One?
I guess he didn't have the buzz cut in prison, so it made him look different.
But I didn't remember his character at all from when I first watched Rogue One
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2:48a, 5/16/25
The first three episodes had the payoff of the wedding song being played as elevator music in episode 10

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In reply to Aggie_Journalist • 6:54a, 5/16/25
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The first three episodes set up Ghorman, and also Cassians falling out with Luthen, Bixs "happy" ending and some other stuff. I guess you could skip them if you really wanted but I think some of the emotional beats in the later episodes would be flatter and you wouldn't know why
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PatAg said:
Did we all know Melshi was in Rogue One?
I guess he didn't have the buzz cut in prison, so it made him look different.
But I didn't remember his character at all from when I first watched Rogue One
Yeah most people recognized him in the S1 thread
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