***** Official Trump 47 Admin Court Battles *****

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will25u
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10:54a, 8/21/25
I guess saying it is moot now?

"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

- Abraham Lincoln
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11:55a, 8/21/25
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NY appeals court throws out $500M penalty against Trump in Letitia James civil case

Looks like that ridiculous civil fine that Ergeron imposed on Trump is gone now...

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An appellate court has thrown out the $500 million civil fraud penalty against former President Donald Trump in the high-profile case brought by New York Attorney General Letitia James.
The New York Appellate Division overturned the penalty, ruling the disgorgement was an excessive fine that violates the Eighth Amendment.

The five-member panel all upheld findings that Trump and his company were liable, affirming that James acted within her authority and that injunctive relief to curb Trump Organization practices was appropriate.

The ruling leaves liability intact but eliminates the massive financial penalty of $364 million plus interest, which rises to around $500 million.

But this is odd...

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He also blasted the case as election interference, saying it was tried during his 2024 presidential campaign, while praising Justice David Friedman, who issued a partial dissent.
Friedman wrote that James' true aim was political and argued the entire case should be dismissed.


If they all said Trump was liable, then how did one judge dissent and say case should be dismissed?
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Im Gipper
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In reply to Ag with kids • 11:55a, 8/21/25
All explained in the other thread.

I'm Gipper
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In reply to Im Gipper • 12:15p, 8/21/25
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Im Gipper said:
All explained in the other thread.

Ah...didn't see it...

Mea culpa. Figured this was the place to put it.
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12:51p, 8/21/25
"We're going to turn this red Prius into a soup kitchen!"
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6:47p, 8/21/25
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What is this from?
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6:58p, 8/21/25
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This is nice though;

Roberts and the other leftists, ACB as the swing vote.
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In reply to nortex97 • 6:59p, 8/21/25
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nortex97 said:
What is this from?

IDK...

But that is a complete dressing down of the lower court...
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In reply to nortex97 • 7:00p, 8/21/25
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nortex97 said:
What is this from?


That's going to leave a mark.
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In reply to Mathguy64 • 7:10p, 8/21/25
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Mathguy64 said:
nortex97 said:
What is this from?


That's going to leave a mark.



Finally someone steps up and says it.

It would be nice if it was the Chief Justice but, well, he is leaving his mark on the Court…


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In reply to rausr • 7:35p, 8/21/25
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rausr said:
Mathguy64 said:
nortex97 said:
What is this from?


That's going to leave a mark.



Finally someone steps up and says it.

It would be nice if it was the Chief Justice but, well, he is leaving his mark on the Court…



You spelled stain wrong.
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8:49p, 8/21/25
"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

- Abraham Lincoln
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In reply to will25u • 8:51p, 8/21/25
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She is the very definition of MORON.
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In reply to will25u • 8:51p, 8/21/25
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will25u said:

There is no true Scot.
The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
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8:53p, 8/21/25
"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

- Abraham Lincoln
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In reply to will25u • 8:54p, 8/21/25
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will25u said:

Stupid theater kid is stupid.
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In reply to will25u • 8:56p, 8/21/25
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will25u said:

Yeah that isn't going to happen. It's a state facility, IIUC.
The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
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In reply to will25u • 8:58p, 8/21/25
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will25u said:

Somebody didn't read Gorsuch's opinion. That is ridiculous. Who TF does she think she is to tell them they can't send anybody there and have to tear it down? Just ridiculous overreach that Roberts is encouraging by not cracking down on this stuff.
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In reply to will25u • 10:13p, 8/21/25
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will25u said:

WOW....

That is completely off the reservation for a SCOTUS "Justice"....
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In reply to will25u • 10:17p, 8/21/25
Dumb *****. They should lock her in a broom closet.
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In reply to Ag with kids • 10:49p, 8/21/25
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Not sure off the reservation is the appropriate appropriation here. Maybe village idiot or takes a village of idiots to raise more idiots?
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In reply to Ag with kids • 3:31a, 8/22/25
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LOL, this is great.


She is never going to be taken seriously, at this point.
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"Stated simply: With potentially life-saving scientific advancements on the line, the court turns a nearly century-old statute aimed at remedying unreasoned agency decision-making into a gauntlet rather than a refuge," Jackson wrote in a solo opinion.
Instead of doing whatever they can to uphold the law's constraints, Jackson said that her colleagues had made vindicating the rule of law as difficult as possible.
"This is Calvinball jurisprudence with a twist," Jackson wrote. "Calvinball has only one rule: There are no fixed rules. We seem to have two: that one, and this administration always wins."
Jackson said that her colleagues' quest to rule for the Trump administration had real consequences for law and the public.
"For the government, the incremental expenditure of money is at stake," Jackson wrote. "For the plaintiffs and the public, scientific progress itself hangs in the balance along with the lives that progress saves."

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In reply to nortex97 • 3:57a, 8/22/25
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I'm struggling to understand how this is something an SCJ should document?
It's apparent she is incompetent and seems to have no filter. Putting something like that in writing is about as dumb as it gets.

"For the government, the incremental expenditure of money is at stake," Jackson wrote. "For the plaintiffs and the public, scientific progress itself hangs in the balance along with the lives that progress saves."
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In reply to CatD11Ag • 4:26a, 8/22/25
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It's really quite amazing. And, it's not as though this spending was geared to…something akin to curing cancer. This was DEI garbage. "Oh no we are all gonna die!"
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NIH ended hundreds of grants it linked to DEI-related studies in response to a series of executive orders issued by President Donald Trump after his inauguration in January. The first order, titled "Ending Radical and Wasteful Government DEI Programs and Preferencing," instructed the director of the Office of Management and Budget, assisted by the attorney general and the director of the Office of Personnel Management, to work to end "discriminatory programs, including illegal DEI" programs in the federal government. It was followed by two other executive orders, titled "Defending Women from Gender Ideology Extremism and Restoring Biological Truth to the Federal Government" and "Ending Illegal Discrimination and Restoring Merit-Based Opportunity."

Note that the TC judge referenced her oral argument question (page 87) about arbitrary and capricious decision making in another case, a few months before issuing his voluminous opinion. She loved that, imho.
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6:32a, 8/22/25
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She is such an utter embarrassment on the Court. She doesn't get to make policy - and all of her opinion is just that - disagreeing with Administration policy. Too bad you ignorant waste of air - you weren't elected. You only get to opine about whether the Executive's implementation of policy fits within the confines of federal law and the framework of the Constitution - nothing more.

Years ago an attorney was transferred to my area with the understanding I would eventually have to let him go. He didn't disappoint - I managed his performance for a few months and then we parted company. When I cleared out his office I found "Employment Law for Dummies" in his desk. She must have a signed copy of Constitutional Law According to Calvin & Hobbes.
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7:21a, 8/22/25
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Starting to think Team Biden did the Kamala / KBJ / KJP tri fact on purpose. Other than the obvious alliteration, they seemed to have gone out of their way to pick the absolute dumbest, most incompetent, simply unqualified person for VP, justice and WH press secretary, then ensured they were a black female.

Intelligent women, intelligent blacks, and all libs should be disgusted at what Biden has done. They didn't go out and find a qualified black woman for these positions, they quite literally found the most incompetent then shoved it down everyone's throats knowing you cannot criticize the choice because muh racism.
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In reply to CatD11Ag • 7:45a, 8/22/25
CatD11Ag said:

"For the government, the incremental expenditure of money is at stake," Jackson wrote. "For the plaintiffs and the public, scientific progress itself hangs in the balance along with the lives that progress saves."
She's a dummy. And a political prostitute. Like all good Obamites, she's attacking the legitimacy of the court. Quite ironically.

They're trying to destroy our government. Every branch. From every angle.
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7:46a, 8/22/25
"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

- Abraham Lincoln
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In reply to will25u • 7:48a, 8/22/25
I don't think Roberts believes that. I think he believes this President shouldn't be allowed to control the Executive Branch.
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7:48a, 8/22/25
Wrong Thread.
"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

- Abraham Lincoln
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In reply to Ellis Wyatt • 7:54a, 8/22/25
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Ellis Wyatt said:
I don't think Roberts believes that. I think he believes this President shouldn't be allowed to control the Executive Branch.

Once I realized that Roberts really did spend weeks at Norm Eisen's dacha in Czechoslovakia, his pattern of behavior and 'rule of law' positions all made more sense to me.

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In reply to Ellis Wyatt • 9:27a, 8/22/25
Ellis Wyatt said:
CatD11Ag said:

"For the government, the incremental expenditure of money is at stake," Jackson wrote. "For the plaintiffs and the public, scientific progress itself hangs in the balance along with the lives that progress saves."
She's a dummy. And a political prostitute. Like all good Obamites, she's attacking the legitimacy of the court. Quite ironically.

They're trying to destroy our government. Every branch. From every angle.


The same Obamaites that call MAGA a cult?
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9:37a, 8/22/25
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Gorsuch with the smack down.


SCOTUS precedents mean something. Inferior courts are not free to ignore them willy-nilly.
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In reply to aggiehawg • 10:13a, 8/22/25
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Hawg, the problem is SCOTUS has previously relied on the lower court judges to actually care about the reputation of the federal judiciary writ large. The activists foisted on us by Obama, Biden, and Durbin don't give a flip about reputation - they are about the religion of the left. There is no method for SCOTUS to deliver accountability.
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In reply to Aggie Jurist • 10:22a, 8/22/25
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Aggie Jurist said:
Hawg, the problem is SCOTUS has previously relied on the lower court judges to actually care about the reputation of the federal judiciary writ large. The activists foisted on us by Obama, Biden, and Durbin don't give a flip about reputation - they are about the religion of the left. There is no method for SCOTUS to deliver accountability.

That is indeed a major flaw in the current system. Only path to get rid of very bad judges is to impeach and remove them through the House and Senate. Those bodies are too divided to undertake that.

I suppose SCOTUS could direct that judges ignoring their precedents be removed from a case, or all cases involving the Trump administration?
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