***** Official Trump 47 Admin Court Battles *****

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Welcome news. The more these guys push, the stronger they make the executive. Giving Trump more authority to do what's right for the next 3+ years.
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flown-the-coop said:

Welcome news. The more these guys push, the stronger they make the executive. Giving Trump more authority to do what's right for the next 3+ years.


It all depends on the midterms. Trump won't get a thing done if the Republicans lose the House in 2026.
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AlexNguyen said:

flown-the-coop said:

Welcome news. The more these guys push, the stronger they make the executive. Giving Trump more authority to do what's right for the next 3+ years.


It all depends on the midterms. Trump won't get a thing done if the Republicans lose the House in 2026.

Why? He doesn't need the house for a damn thing.

And they can investigate and impeach away. Simply ignore them.
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aggiehawg said:

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I suspect any judge he appoints to any court in any state with any democratic senator will get blue slipped and will be DOA.

That tradition needs to end. One Senator should not have veto power like that.

Agree. Even with Harry Reid ending the filibuster for inferior court judges, the blue slip is just stupid. Majority Leader should just ignore them and call for a vote on nominees anyway.


Thune has been a happy RINO. He won't do ***** F that guy.

It's clear the swamp, rinos in particular, has chosen to just run out the clock legislatively, judicial appointments, etc against Trump.

They all deserve to hang.
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aggiehawg said:

Trump needs to pack the court, in this case the federal district courts in DC. (half-joking)

But all of the federal district court judges in DC are corrupt to the core.

I disagree. He needs Congress to eliminate certain courts by enacting legislation that allows Trump to renominate judges from those courts to others without further approval and if a judge from an eliminated court isn't renominated within 6 months they have to go through the whole process again. You can't just leave these judges in there anymore. You need to really get rid a lot of these terrible judges. You can't do that through impeachment. But you could with structural reform.

Because the lower courts are established by Congress, that's a Constitutionally delegated power. Yes it does set a horrible precedent. But that doesn't mean that if the shoe was on the other foot that the left wouldn't do something similar. We all know they would.

However because of Mitch and Co. we probably don't have enough Senators to get it through. And the GOP in Congress in both houses is one of the absolute worst, most disunited, feckless groups. They are singularly incapable of wielding real authority. So I don't expect anything substantive to happen.
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flown-the-coop said:

AlexNguyen said:

flown-the-coop said:

Welcome news. The more these guys push, the stronger they make the executive. Giving Trump more authority to do what's right for the next 3+ years.


It all depends on the midterms. Trump won't get a thing done if the Republicans lose the House in 2026.

Why? He doesn't need the house for a damn thing.

And they can investigate and impeach away. Simply ignore them.


Except that has not been the mo of the Trump administration in my opinion. They don't ignore court injunctions for example. They appeal rulings but definitely stop their activities pending in the meantime.
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If that needs to change, he will change.

As a lame duck with a hostile congress, he will just do what he wants.

With how the Dems have behaved, they will never get enough senators to vote to convict and remove Trump.

God bless him as he is doing what this Country needs despite the fight he has to put up with from the media, the Dems, the judiciary and dolts like Massie and Paul in his own flippin party.
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I still say have congress create a district for Boasberg that is one square yard in Alaska, and send him there to judge cases within that jurisdiction. The constitution absolutely gives congress that power.
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Real estate is reasonable in American Samoa as well. Can't have enough justice there.
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MouthBQ98 said:

I still say have congress create a district for Boasberg that is one square yard in Alaska, and send him there to judge cases within that jurisdiction. The constitution absolutely gives congress that power.

Better yet, there is a small sliver of Yellowstone Park that is it's own federal district...and is completely uninhabited. Meaning there is no jury pool to pull from. No trials.
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Is that the "train station" ?
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aggiehawg said:

MouthBQ98 said:

I still say have congress create a district for Boasberg that is one square yard in Alaska, and send him there to judge cases within that jurisdiction. The constitution absolutely gives congress that power.

Better yet, there is a small sliver of Yellowstone Park that is it's own federal district...and is completely uninhabited. Meaning there is no jury pool to pull from. No trials.

Nice Hawg. We were just up in Big Sky and the wife was being belligerent. Could have used this info.

(for the overly serious post, the above is a joke... I was nowhere near Big Sky last week)

https://www.sfgate.com/national-parks/article/yellowstone-zone-of-death-legal-loophole-21143937.php

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The idea of a "Zone of Death" inside Yellowstone first surfaced back in 2005, when Kalt published an article titled "The Perfect Crime" in the Georgetown Law Journal. His article argued that "one might be able to commit felonies with impunity" here, not because of the lack of witnesses, but instead thanks to a legal loophole.

Yellowstone National Park is federal land, so crimes committed inside the park fall under federal, not state, jurisdiction. Yellowstone became a national park in 1872 before any of the surrounding states even existed. According to United States Code, all of Yellowstone including parts of the park in Idaho and Montana fall under the jurisdiction of the U.S. District Court of the District of Wyoming, where most of the park is situated. The District of Wyoming is the only district court that includes land in multiple states, something Kalt described as "sloppy" in his article.

But the Constitution's Sixth Amendment guarantees defendants the right to be tried by a jury from the same state and district where the crime allegedly happened. Upholding that right for a defendant who allegedly committed a crime in this swath of Yellowstone, population zero, would be impossible. There would be no one to fill out a jury.

Therefore, Kalt posited, the court would have no choice but to let a criminal go free. No jury, no trial, no prosecution. (A defendant could still be punished for related crimes committed elsewhere or lesser crimes that don't require a jury.) In pointing this out, Kalt wanted people to know that he wasn't encouraging anyone to commit a crime. "Crime is bad, after all," he wrote. "But so is violating the Constitution. If the loophole described in this essay does exist it should be closed, not ignored."


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Interesting little quirk in the law there, isn't it?
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aggiehawg said:

Interesting little quirk in the law there, isn't it?


I don't understand why Congress hasn't tucked an amendment into a Dept of the Interior appropriation slicing that section of Yellowstone out of the District of Wyoming and into the District of Idaho. What member of Congress/Senator is overly attached to the zone of death?
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jacketman03 said:

aggiehawg said:

Interesting little quirk in the law there, isn't it?


I don't understand why Congress hasn't tucked an amendment into a Dept of the Interior appropriation slicing that section of Yellowstone out of the District of Wyoming and into the District of Idaho. What member of Congress/Senator is overly attached to the zone of death?

Hillary for one...
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"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

- Abraham Lincoln
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will25u said:





Wait!

What refund would CostCo need? I've been told that all tariffs are passed through to the consumer.

So, why would the consumer's extra tariff bill be refunded to CostCo?
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Shoosh!

One is not to question anti-Trump talking points. Remember that whatever Trump says, does or enacts must be assumed to be terrible for Americans, a Trump org / family graft, and will only result in chaos, losses and destruction.

It can never be that Trump had a great idea that takes some time to implement and see the results.
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Right there in the article.
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Millerchip said that while Costco was seeing a direct impact from tariffs on imports of some fresh food items from Central and South America, it decided not to increase prices "because they are key staple items" for its customers.
Some of those fresh food items included pineapples and bananas. "We essentially held the price on those to make sure that we're protecting the member," he said.

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Quad Dog said:

Right there in the article.
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Millerchip said that while Costco was seeing a direct impact from tariffs on imports of some fresh food items from Central and South America, it decided not to increase prices "because they are key staple items" for its customers.
Some of those fresh food items included pineapples and bananas. "We essentially held the price on those to make sure that we're protecting the member," he said.



And there is where their case gets blown up. They could have instead decided to seek US suppliers for those foods (if available) or raise the prices. But "they decided" not to, and therefore, the responsibility for the lost revenue was their choice.
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If they had raised prices, then they would probably still sue for loss of revenue if customers weren't willing to pay those prices and therefore cancelled their memberships.
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Quad Dog said:

If they had raised prices, then they would probably still sue for loss of revenue if customers weren't willing to pay those prices and therefore cancelled their memberships.

If the playing field is level, government isn't responsible for changes in spending habits that result from changes in commodity prices.
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Quad Dog said:

If they had raised prices, then they would probably still sue for loss of revenue if customers weren't willing to pay those prices and therefore cancelled their memberships.
this is where their damages model gets speculative (at best). Might could've should've possibly….
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txags92 said:

Quad Dog said:

If they had raised prices, then they would probably still sue for loss of revenue if customers weren't willing to pay those prices and therefore cancelled their memberships.

If the playing field is level, government isn't responsible for changes in spending habits that result from changes in commodity prices.

Which would be the point of the suit: to see if the playing field is level if a President implements tariffs (a power traditionally reserved for Congress) because of trade deficits or whatever other reasons Trump had.
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aggiehawg said:

MouthBQ98 said:

I still say have congress create a district for Boasberg that is one square yard in Alaska, and send him there to judge cases within that jurisdiction. The constitution absolutely gives congress that power.

Better yet, there is a small sliver of Yellowstone Park that is it's own federal district...and is completely uninhabited. Meaning there is no jury pool to pull from. No trials.

Let him preside over the Long Black Train:

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Quad Dog said:

txags92 said:

Quad Dog said:

If they had raised prices, then they would probably still sue for loss of revenue if customers weren't willing to pay those prices and therefore cancelled their memberships.

If the playing field is level, government isn't responsible for changes in spending habits that result from changes in commodity prices.

Which would be the point of the suit: to see if the playing field is level if a President implements tariffs (a power traditionally reserved for Congress) because of trade deficits or whatever other reasons Trump had.

If the playing field is level for all people in the US buying those products from those countries, it doesn't matter why the tariffs were implemented or who implemented them (congress or president). If he has the power to implement them, and did not do so in a punitive fashion (ie only tariffing products being imported for Costco, but not those by Sams Club), then they have no case. If they think he did not have the power to implement the tariffs. then that is a different case.
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"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

- Abraham Lincoln
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Quad Dog said:

Right there in the article.
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Millerchip said that while Costco was seeing a direct impact from tariffs on imports of some fresh food items from Central and South America, it decided not to increase prices "because they are key staple items" for its customers.
Some of those fresh food items included pineapples and bananas. "We essentially held the price on those to make sure that we're protecting the member," he said.



I see someone needs to recalibrate their sarcasmeter...
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Quad Dog said:

If they had raised prices, then they would probably still sue for loss of revenue if customers weren't willing to pay those prices and therefore cancelled their memberships.

I, TOO, want to be able to sue the government if my tax bill goes up and leaves me with less net income.
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"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

- Abraham Lincoln
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"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

- Abraham Lincoln
 
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