***** Official Trump 47 Admin Court Battles *****

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4stringAg said:

Judge stops Trump admin from removing protections from 1M Haitian and Venezuelan immigrants

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/05/politics/tps-venezuelans-haitians-noem

Article doesn't say what legal basis for the injunction just that Noem overstepped and that her decision to remove temporary protections that had already been extended three times by Biden was capricious and arbitrary.

Seems to me that if Homeland Security can extend temporary status under one admin then it shouldn't be overstepping for homeland security to remove or not extend it in another admin and shouldn't be up to a judge to interfere


That's because basis or case law to back up the injunction. The judicial branch intervening in immigration courts alone is unprecedented and way out of their lane. Activist Judges are granting rights to illegal immigrants that they have no authority to give and the illegal immigrants have no legal right to have. Immigration courts fall under the executive branch jurisdiction and there is only limited due process rights available for people who sneak in our country. All these left is doing is throwing sand in the gears to slow things down and burn taxpayers money


All these bogus asylum claims and extensions that are granted by the executive branch are fully under the jurisdiction of the executive branch and the judicial is encroaching on the executive branch authority
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Appeal, ignore, or thwart.

It's crazy to think what one administration does the next cannot undo. You can bet they'll flip that script next Dem who takes the presidency and starts undoing what Trump has done.
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Yea I don't get this. Biden granted temp asylum and then extended it. Trump just not extending
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Deerdude said:

Yea I don't get this. Biden granted temp asylum and then extended it. Trump just not extending

They will lose
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Dirty_Mike&the_boys said:

4stringAg said:

Judge stops Trump admin from removing protections from 1M Haitian and Venezuelan immigrants

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/05/politics/tps-venezuelans-haitians-noem

Article doesn't say what legal basis for the injunction just that Noem overstepped and that her decision to remove temporary protections that had already been extended three times by Biden was capricious and arbitrary.

Seems to me that if Homeland Security can extend temporary status under one admin then it shouldn't be overstepping for homeland security to remove or not extend it in another admin and shouldn't be up to a judge to interfere


That's because basis or case law to back up the injunction. The judicial branch intervening in immigration courts alone is unprecedented and way out of their lane. Activist Judges are granting rights to illegal immigrants that they have no authority to give and the illegal immigrants have no legal right to have. Immigration courts fall under the executive branch jurisdiction and there is only limited due process rights available for people who sneak in our country. All these left is doing is throwing sand in the gears to slow things down and burn taxpayers money


All these bogus asylum claims and extensions that are granted by the executive branch are fully under the jurisdiction of the executive branch and the judicial is encroaching on the executive branch authority

The only way this will stop is if SCOTUS sanctions (or whatever their worst penalty is) the lower courts for allowing this...
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I put this on the separate thread (started back when he issued his TRO in March, which then got slapped down in May by SCOTUS, and now he has issued a final ruling that claims the termination of TPS was arbitrary and capricious, so it's invalid.).


Edward Chen is a horrible communist to have a federal judgeship, possibly the single worst of the lot of the Obama judges, and it's notable that communist spy-employing DiFi was responsible for his nomination. This will likely get reversed at the 9th before it makes it to SCOTUS, imho.

He's essentially said in his ruling 'SCOTUS didn't stop me from further adjudicating this, and the government hasn't proven that there is any harm to my taking this action because I disagree with Sec. Noem's decision.'
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Awesome win over another POTUS-wannabe judge, for the administration/Republic enabling ICE to hunt in Home Depot's etc. again. 9th Circus 6-3.
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AND, well what do you know, standing matters. Trump can fire probationary employees despite leftist states thinking it is mean.
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nortex97 said:

AND, well what do you know, standing matters. Trump can fire probationary employees despite leftist states thinking it is mean.


Who'd have thunk it? The Chief Executive actually has power over the Executive Branch!
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In lib world, a Republican POTUS needs 2/3rds of the house and senate plus a formal blessing by a unanimous SCOTUS before any action can be officially taken.

Evidently this is coequal branches of government to them. Check with us first, follow all judges orders, if not then we will tell the crazies you are Hitler and will exterminate gays and liberals. But if D potus, you cheer when they call for stacking the courts, killing children and using f15s on folks standing up for the 2nd Amendment. Oh and speaking of amendments, the 1st needs to be government by their Ministry of Truth.
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flown-the-coop said:

In lib world, a Republican POTUS needs 2/3rds of the house and senate plus a formal blessing by a unanimous SCOTUS some random district court judge in Hawaii before any action can be officially taken.

Evidently this is coequal branches of government to them. Check with us first, follow all judges orders, if not then we will tell the crazies you are Hitler and will exterminate gays and liberals. But if D potus, you cheer when they call for stacking the courts, killing children and using f15s on folks standing up for the 2nd Amendment. Oh and speaking of amendments, the 1st needs to be government by their Ministry of Truth.

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flown-the-coop said:

In lib world, a Republican POTUS needs 2/3rds of the house and senate plus a formal blessing by a unanimous SCOTUS before any action can be officially taken.

Evidently this is coequal branches of government to them. Check with us first, follow all judges orders, if not then we will tell the crazies you are Hitler and will exterminate gays and liberals. But if D potus, you cheer when they call for stacking the courts, killing children and using f15s on folks standing up for the 2nd Amendment. Oh and speaking of amendments, the 1st needs to be government by their Ministry of Truth.

Not only that but censuses have to be miscounted and southern states restricted on their gerrymandering to ensure more heavily weighted D representation in government than actually exists.
The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
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Preach.
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Dissension within the ranks of SCOTUS.
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Kavanaugh's concurrence is 10 pages long.

I haven't thoroughy read each at this point, so I don't know the extent to which Kavanaugh is directly addressing the dissenters.

But it is quite unusual to me for a Justice who is not dissenting to write in advance where he/she is likely to come out if/when the case reaches the court. I suspect this is why none of the other Justices joined his opinion.

It might just be that he has grown tired of the dissenters writing lengthy opinions on the shadow document condemning the majority, where the dissent presents arguments that are not consistent with current SCOTUS precedent.


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aggiehawg said:

Dissension within the ranks of SCOTUS.
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Kavanaugh's concurrence is 10 pages long.

I haven't thoroughy read each at this point, so I don't know the extent to which Kavanaugh is directly addressing the dissenters.

But it is quite unusual to me for a Justice who is not dissenting to write in advance where he/she is likely to come out if/when the case reaches the court. I suspect this is why none of the other Justices joined his opinion.

It might just be that he has grown tired of the dissenters writing lengthy opinions on the shadow document condemning the majority, where the dissent presents arguments that are not consistent with current SCOTUS precedent.




Well, it has gotten ridiculous.

When the lower courts are openly defying SCOTUS, something needs to happen.
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techno-ag said:

aggiehawg said:

Dissension within the ranks of SCOTUS.
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Kavanaugh's concurrence is 10 pages long.

I haven't thoroughy read each at this point, so I don't know the extent to which Kavanaugh is directly addressing the dissenters.

But it is quite unusual to me for a Justice who is not dissenting to write in advance where he/she is likely to come out if/when the case reaches the court. I suspect this is why none of the other Justices joined his opinion.

It might just be that he has grown tired of the dissenters writing lengthy opinions on the shadow document condemning the majority, where the dissent presents arguments that are not consistent with current SCOTUS precedent.




Well, it has gotten ridiculous.

When the lower courts are openly defying SCOTUS, something needs to happen.

Especially when they are citing SCOTUS dissents as part of their rationale...
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shipwreckedcrew said:

I think the horse is out of the barn.

I don't have any confidence that the current tactics will "succeed" or "fail" by the Admin. in altering the landscape in the future. They are fighting on the ground that was prepared by others.

These are the rules of the game now in how policy gets made, unmade, remade (?) in an era where Congress won't find its voice and make new rules. If anything, the more extreme views of each side are the only voices now heard in Congress.

Executive Orders, challenged via lawfare, in a court system rigged by both sides to reflect the extremes of each in the trial courts. That norm has been developing for 30 years -- it didn't happen overnight.

What the Trump Admin is seeking to accomplish -- in my opinion -- is to do lasting damage to some of the foundations upon which the Admin State and permanent bureaucracy has been built, and using an "energetic Executive" to swing that hammer.

It must seize for itself both the energy and the hammer to do so.

Would it be better if it was in bipartisan? Sure, but he's challenging orthodoxies about how the federal government is expected to function in ways that are unacceptable to the left because the left relies on the functionality being destroyed to accomplish its goals when in power.

This is transformational. It was always going to be ugly and the reaction was easily predictable.

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More:
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These are the rules of the game now in how policy gets made, unmade, remade (?) in an era where Congress won't find its voice and make new rules. If anything, the more extreme views of each side are the only voices now heard in Congress.

Executive Orders, challenged via lawfare, in a court system rigged by both sides to reflect the extremes of each in the trial courts. That norm has been developing for 30 years -- it didn't happen overnight.

What the Trump Admin is seeking to accomplish -- in my opinion -- is to do lasting damage to some of the foundations upon which the Admin State and permanent bureaucracy has been built, and using an "energetic Executive" to swing that hammer.


Reversing Chevron was a shot across the bow of the administrative state and they are not taking it well.
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I love the courts explicit instructions here:

We return this to the DCT with instructions to dismiss the case.

No leaving any room for the DCT to ignore the ruling.
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Yep, only other thing they could have added would have been 'without pouting about it.'
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aggiehawg said:

Dissension within the ranks of SCOTUS.
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Kavanaugh's concurrence is 10 pages long.

I haven't thoroughy read each at this point, so I don't know the extent to which Kavanaugh is directly addressing the dissenters.

But it is quite unusual to me for a Justice who is not dissenting to write in advance where he/she is likely to come out if/when the case reaches the court. I suspect this is why none of the other Justices joined his opinion.

It might just be that he has grown tired of the dissenters writing lengthy opinions on the shadow document condemning the majority, where the dissent presents arguments that are not consistent with current SCOTUS precedent.




What do you think about the argument that this is a new tactic by SCOTUS to address inferior judges citing to brain-dead dissents by the not-so-smart SCOTUS justices?

I have been involved in something like 100 civil litigations that were appealed, and only recall one legal argument that relied on a dissent issued by an appeals court judge. And, the petitioner in that case got drop-kicked straight to the moon. So, my understanding is that widespread use of that tactic is fairly new, but, again, all my knowledge of law is within a very small segment of civil litigation.
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Interesting (and long, 14 part) analyses of Sauer's brief re: USAID NGO litigants claiming they have to be paid for more work.


He's right. Trump Admin will easily win on this one too. More at the link.
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What do you think about the argument that this is a new tactic by SCOTUS to address inferior judges citing to brain-dead dissents by the not-so-smart SCOTUS justices?

I have been involved in something like 100 civil litigations that were appealed, and only recall one legal argument that relied on a dissent issued by an appeals court judge. And, the petitioner in that case got drop-kicked straight to the moon. So, my understanding is that widespread use of that tactic is fairly new, but, again, all my knowledge of law is within a very small segment of civil litigation.

One of the things I disliked about Rehnquist was his tendency to cite his own dissents. I mean, what does that have to do with the case at bar? It is not controlling. But that was at SCOTUS level not district court level.

And therein lies the difference. Federal district court judges have always had a God complex but they also used to care about their reputations as a solid jurist and not a laughingstock or subject to ridicule.

They no longer have that sense of pride, nor shame.
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aggiehawg said:

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What do you think about the argument that this is a new tactic by SCOTUS to address inferior judges citing to brain-dead dissents by the not-so-smart SCOTUS justices?

I have been involved in something like 100 civil litigations that were appealed, and only recall one legal argument that relied on a dissent issued by an appeals court judge. And, the petitioner in that case got drop-kicked straight to the moon. So, my understanding is that widespread use of that tactic is fairly new, but, again, all my knowledge of law is within a very small segment of civil litigation.

One of the things I disliked about Rehnquist was his tendency to cite his own dissents. I mean, what does that have to do with the case at bar? It is not controlling. But that was at SCOTUS level not district court level.

And therein lies the difference. Federal district court judges have always had a God complex but they also used to care about their reputations as a solid jurist and not a laughingstock or subject to ridicule.

They no longer have that sense of pride, nor shame.


The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
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Biden said that was George and Uncle Bozey crossing from Scranton to Rohobeth right before they were eating by cannibals.
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It was a really decent interview if you get the chance to watch. She's selling a book which may be a decent read.

She as is known is a student of Scalia which I know most see as a good thing. She also covered the law, moral, religion question very well.
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will25u said:




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"We're not deciding cases just for today. And we're not deciding cases based on the president as in the current occupant of the office. We are deciding cases about the presidency. So we are taking each case and we're looking at the question of presidential power as it comes and the cases that we decide today are going to matter four presidencies from now, six presidents from now…"


She's absolutely right.
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Pretty bad track record for these activist judges.

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nortex97 said:

Yep, only other thing they could have added would have been 'without pouting about it.'

And yet...

I'm sure the lower court will issue a ruling 'pouting about it'....
 
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