obama judge micro manages trump to return illegal abrego garcia

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I suspect we will see them quadruple down on this dude as word of disagreement in deportation approach now circles around ICE / BP (Fox had an alert on this last night).

Surely they could find a more useful idiot at this point but Abrego has name recognition now so it's more of a challenge to replace him at martyr.
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Maryland Dad is the California High Speed Rail of illegals. Black hole where money goes in and nothing happens.

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Whatever Trumps DOJ has spent ferrying Abrego around pails in comparison to what it would costs to run ads on Trumps deportation progress.

Dems are doing a lot of the hard work to come up with campaign clips and ads.
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As I've said before, this guy will never be deported, and will likely be granted legal status or citizenship by some federal judge when all is said an done.
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Another Elian Gonzalez episode on the way. Whatever his ultimate disposition, it will include lights, cameras, pressers and maybe an ICE raid or two.

BTW, you Elin after being kidnapped by INS (I kid I kid) and returned to his father in Cuba, went on to earn an engineering degree and is a member of the Cuba parliament.

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I suspect Team Trump is happy to let this drag on and on.

If Maryland Dad is around for the mid-terms, its a win for Trump.

Hell, some idiot lib will invite him to attend the next SOTU.
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Why are the dems still trying to squeeze juice out of this, and why is he not gone yet? The criminal has had more than enough "due process".
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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

Why are the dems still trying to squeeze juice out of this, and why is he not gone yet? The criminal has had more than enough "due process".

Once the Democrats/leftists lock onto something, especially when it comes to Trump, they are incapable of letting it go. They will fight to the bitter end, and even if they lose, they will try to find a new way to start it all over again.
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Someone alluded to it above, but I fully believe they intend to bring him to the SOTU address as a badge of their welcoming to immigrants.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

Someone alluded to it above, but I fully believe they intend to bring him to the SOTU address as a badge of their welcoming to immigrants.


Hell, I will pay for his airfare and accommodations.

And yes, the Dems are this Delusioned.
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A lot seems to have happened since last time someone posted here.

"We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution."

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I am afraid if I roll my eyes anymore than I have already, they will get stuck. Just like Mom warned me about crossing my eyes.
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How is this human trafficker not drinking goat urine in the Sudan already?




This is the weirdest hill the Democrats have chosen to die on.
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aggiehawg said:

I am afraid if I roll my eyes anymore than I have already, they will get stuck. Just like Mom warned me about crossing my eyes.

The SCOTUS needs to let the lower courts know that immigration is within the purview of the executive and legislative branches.

And the legislative branch delegated MOST powers to the executive branch.

This micromanaging by district judges is getting ridiculous....
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And he's been ordered a released again. Never stop Dems, never stop.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-orders-immediate-release-kilmar-abrego-garcia-immigration/story?id=126511576
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A federal judge has ordered the immediate release of Kilmar Abrego Garcia from immigration detention.

U.S. District Judge Paula Xinis said in her order Thursday that "since Abrego Garcia's wrongful detention in El Salvador, he has been re-detained, again without lawful authority."

Xinis said that the absence of a removal order prevents the government from removing Abrego Garcia from the United States.

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flown-the-coop said:

And he's been ordered a released again. Never stop Dems, never stop.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-orders-immediate-release-kilmar-abrego-garcia-immigration/story?id=126511576
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A federal judge has ordered the immediate release of Kilmar Abrego Garcia from immigration detention.

U.S. District Judge Paula Xinis said in her order Thursday that "since Abrego Garcia's wrongful detention in El Salvador, he has been re-detained, again without lawful authority."

Xinis said that the absence of a removal order prevents the government from removing Abrego Garcia from the United States.



The Democratic Party leadership has successfully contaminated the Federal Court System with corrupt, dishonest, anti constitutional and dishonorable ideologies. These ideologues are diametrically opposed to the Constitution as written and the laws Congress had passed.
The congress needs to impeach some of these judges but the Democratic Party controls too much of the legislative branch's.
Anyone considering voting for any Democratic candidate should immediately reconsider their voting preferences.
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flown-the-coop said:

And he's been ordered a released again. Never stop Dems, never stop.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-orders-immediate-release-kilmar-abrego-garcia-immigration/story?id=126511576
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A federal judge has ordered the immediate release of Kilmar Abrego Garcia from immigration detention.

U.S. District Judge Paula Xinis said in her order Thursday that "since Abrego Garcia's wrongful detention in El Salvador, he has been re-detained, again without lawful authority."

Xinis said that the absence of a removal order prevents the government from removing Abrego Garcia from the United States.




How the hell is he still here? Deport him already.
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richardag said:


The congress needs to impeach some of these judges but the Democratic Party controls too much of the legislative branch's.
Anyone considering voting for any Democratic candidate should immediately reconsider their voting preferences.
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Not just the Dem party. Trump met with Thune and told him its time to drop the blue slip process. Thune absolutely refused. Nothing but an attempt by Thune to keep a stupid power in the Senate that foils POTUS.

He also said he has moved every Trump judicial nom through in record time. I don't think that is the case.
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The intentional subversion of the judicial system is part of leftist marxist strategic subversion planning. Saul Alinsky and various marxist intellectuals described exactly how it was to be done.
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MouthBQ98 said:

The intentional subversion of the judicial system is part of leftist marxist strategic subversion planning. Saul Alinsky and various marxist intellectuals described exactly how it was to be done.

This Trump presidency has really shown how crazy the judicial is now. 1000s of BS liberal decisions we don't know about while AutoPen was in the whitehouse.

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This dude is a monument to the ineffectiveness of the current administration. Just ignore the courts and deport him already.
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Colonel Kurtz said:

This dude is a monument to the ineffectiveness of the current administration. Just ignore the courts and deport him already.

BS. The administration is trying its best to not be a monarchy and is obeying court orders, even court orders that are unlawful. You cannot blame them for leftist lawfare.
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Should have never brought him back from his home country

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Lets all find something negative to say about the Trump administration. He has done many incredible things in less than a year, and he is working on those areas that need work. I think of Mayorkas testifying to Congress and basically saying that there was no such thing as an immigration crisis and contrast that to the things we complain about in the Trump administration. So lets celebrate the success and improvement and give him latitude to continue working on the things that need work. Just remember how fortunate we are to have him and what a disaster it would be to have the dems back in control of things.

This all could be way worse.

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Does he have permission from the Director of Homeland Security or the Secretary of State to be in this country? If not, then whatever a judge says doesn't matter.
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esteban said:

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Star witness has been arrested and imprisoned every year for the past 10 years and was set to be deported for his sixth time. He gets released and can stay in the country for at least a year. Sweet deal for him. Not sure how credible the jury will find him though.
So, we're letting a convicted criminal go free in order to prosecute KAG, when we could just deport KAG and keep this guy in prison? What are we doing here?
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flown-the-coop said:

And he's been ordered a released again. Never stop Dems, never stop.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-orders-immediate-release-kilmar-abrego-garcia-immigration/story?id=126511576
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A federal judge has ordered the immediate release of Kilmar Abrego Garcia from immigration detention.

U.S. District Judge Paula Xinis said in her order Thursday that "since Abrego Garcia's wrongful detention in El Salvador, he has been re-detained, again without lawful authority."

Xinis said that the absence of a removal order prevents the government from removing Abrego Garcia from the United States.



He has HAD a removal order for years...

Apparently the district judge is too stupid to know that...
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Ag with kids said:

flown-the-coop said:

And he's been ordered a released again. Never stop Dems, never stop.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-orders-immediate-release-kilmar-abrego-garcia-immigration/story?id=126511576
Quote:

A federal judge has ordered the immediate release of Kilmar Abrego Garcia from immigration detention.

U.S. District Judge Paula Xinis said in her order Thursday that "since Abrego Garcia's wrongful detention in El Salvador, he has been re-detained, again without lawful authority."

Xinis said that the absence of a removal order prevents the government from removing Abrego Garcia from the United States.



He has HAD a removal order for years...

Apparently the district judge is too stupid to know that...


He has not had a removal order. The order from 2018 did not order him removed, it said that the US could not remove him to El Salvador.

A removal order has to state where he is being removed to, so where does his removal order at he is to be removed?
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Bring him back and put him on house arrest at the marxist judge's place. She loves him so much, shouldn't be an issue.
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I am so sick of hearing about this illegal drug running cartel member wife beating piece of *****

He is not an American citizen, and therefore is not afforded due process. He should've never been brought back.

The Democrats sure do put themselves behind the most vile disgusting human beings.
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jacketman03 said:

Ag with kids said:

flown-the-coop said:

And he's been ordered a released again. Never stop Dems, never stop.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-orders-immediate-release-kilmar-abrego-garcia-immigration/story?id=126511576
Quote:

A federal judge has ordered the immediate release of Kilmar Abrego Garcia from immigration detention.

U.S. District Judge Paula Xinis said in her order Thursday that "since Abrego Garcia's wrongful detention in El Salvador, he has been re-detained, again without lawful authority."

Xinis said that the absence of a removal order prevents the government from removing Abrego Garcia from the United States.



He has HAD a removal order for years...

Apparently the district judge is too stupid to know that...


He has not had a removal order. The order from 2018 did not order him removed, it said that the US could not remove him to El Salvador.

A removal order has to state where he is being removed to, so where does his removal order at he is to be removed?

No...he HAD a removal order. He had a WITHHOLDING order that wouldn't allow that removal to El Salvador.
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Ag with kids said:

jacketman03 said:

Ag with kids said:

flown-the-coop said:

And he's been ordered a released again. Never stop Dems, never stop.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-orders-immediate-release-kilmar-abrego-garcia-immigration/story?id=126511576
Quote:

A federal judge has ordered the immediate release of Kilmar Abrego Garcia from immigration detention.

U.S. District Judge Paula Xinis said in her order Thursday that "since Abrego Garcia's wrongful detention in El Salvador, he has been re-detained, again without lawful authority."

Xinis said that the absence of a removal order prevents the government from removing Abrego Garcia from the United States.



He has HAD a removal order for years...

Apparently the district judge is too stupid to know that...


He has not had a removal order. The order from 2018 did not order him removed, it said that the US could not remove him to El Salvador.

A removal order has to state where he is being removed to, so where does his removal order at he is to be removed?

No...he HAD a removal order. He had a WITHHOLDING order that wouldn't allow that removal to El Salvador.


You're misunderstanding what a withholding of removal order does. A withholding of removal order says that an alien is removable, but there are reasons to not grant a removal order, so there is no removal order issued. Then, if the government can later show that the conditions that led to the withholding order have been alleviated, the government can then get a removal order.

The fact that a withholding of removal order exists is dispositive proof that there is no removal order.
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