***** Official 2025 Dallas Cowboys Season Thread *****[Staff Warning]

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I'd take Bain at #12, no question. I don't care how long his arms are.

Pretty sure he'll be long gone... Guy has gone full beast mode in the playoffs.
Tksymm7
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Dude looks like a multiple time NFL All Pro. He's got ELITE size, great speed, moves and the whole package.
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No complaints about the way D-Ware and Micah played for us... Great players.

But Bain is a different type of beast. He's Charles Hailey... Probably a bit crazy, wants to hurt you, and just doesn't stop.
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I'll take him bc I think he's really good. We just already have the base of a good 3 man front with Osa, Williams, and Clark. I'd like to add a speed guy we can rush from either side.

Cassius Howell type. Bailey. But I would be excited as hell and th cowboys can figure out how to maximize Bain. Let him wreck
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I would take Bain and never look back. However, after his performance in the CFP on the biggest stage, not sure he makes it out of the top 5.
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Oh yeah there's zero chance he's making it out of the top five unless he shockingly tests really poorly, which I highly doubt happens. You'd have to trade up to get him if you're the Cowboys and we all know that is absolutely not happening.

They just do not make DEs like Bain that often. A legit 6'3"+, 270-275 lb DE that has good speed, elite power and use of his hands, etc. If he was two inches taller and had longer arms he's the undisputed No. 1 overall and I don't think it's close.

Also, as long as he's a hard worker, which I believe he is, he's going to continue to lean out in the NFL.
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Tksymm7 said:



Also, as long as he's a hard worker, which I believe he is, he's going to continue to lean out in the NFL.


Idk man… that lower body is THICK. He's built like a tree trunk.

Edit: to back up my post I submit these girls. They are as fit as humanly possible but they ain't leaning out any more than they are when they got that lower half.






Tksymm7
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I meant more around the torso and midsection. Yeah his lower half isn't changing. Dudes built like a brick ****house.
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The only knock on Bain's production is that he disappeared middle of the season. In his defense, the whole team was slumping so who knows. How in the hell did they lose to Louisville and SMU!!!
Woods Ag
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Yall see him chuck that lineman trying to wall him off on a run last night… want to say it was in 3rd/4th.. it looked like what I could do to my wife.. not what a 275lb dude could do to a 300+ lineman.
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Woods Ag said:

Tksymm7 said:



Also, as long as he's a hard worker, which I believe he is, he's going to continue to lean out in the NFL.


Idk man… that lower body is THICK. He's built like a tree trunk.

Edit: to back up my post I submit these girls. They are as fit as humanly possible but they ain't leaning out any more than they are when they got that lower half.









Wood….i think?

Also, reminds me of this fantastic tweet I saw recently


Woods Ag
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Laughed my ass off!
Vince Blake
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That didn't take long.
FireAg
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Vince Blake said:

That didn't take long.


Something ain't right with that dude…
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Would the Cowboys consider trading our two firsts this year to get Bain?

Say he falls out of the top 5, and falls to say 6/7, would the Cowboys trade up? I certainly would
Danny Vermin
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No way. We need more than one player.
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Probably not unless they feel that by 12 there simply won't be a potential game changing type of defensive player on the board, and even then I doubt it.

What will be super important before the draft is the top tier offensive guys putting up freakish numbers at pro days, at the combine etc. Maybe a few more offensive guys can squeeze their way into that top 11 than are currently projected, because right now I think there's a legit chance five or even six of the top ten are defensive guys. Just absolutely blows that this is the worst QB class in 20 years.

The guys I am watching hard are Sonny Styles (most likely), Mansoor Delane (idk if we need a CB that high), Caleb Downs (some think he's a lock top 6-7 pick and others think he might slip just because of position), and the guy I like the most that could be there in Keldric Faulk.

If Faulk is there you sprint to the podium as fast as possible.
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They don't have any 2nd/3rd round picks right? Trading back much more likely than trading up.
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Correct, but with just how few QBs are going to get taken before us I think there's a real argument that if a guy they believe is a game changer on defense is available at 8-9, and they don't like many of the guys after him, to pull the trigger.

We do need bodies, but we need game changers just as much as we do bodies.

Again I don't think that's the case because I think at least one really good defensive player will be available at 12, but there's an argument to be made I think. It's just such a garbage QB draft, and tbh a top end offensive draft out of maybe a few dudes.
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Agreed. I was probably talking more about not trading both 1sts. They can use their own first like you said (if the player is there) and then maybe use GB's 1st to trade back for extra picks.
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Because I'm bored as all get out, here are teams before us that I think will or at least should seriously consider offensive players:

1) Las Vegas - Mendoza (ain't close)
4) Tennessee - OT or WR (young, good QB you need to help anyway you can)
5) New York - OT, WR or RB (same as above, and I'm talking about Love only)
7) Washington - OT, WR or RB (same as above)
8) New Orleans - OT, WR or RB (same as above, but I could also see them going best available because they need so much)

After those five, I think the rest are probably defensive or best available. Issue is there really only two OTs that have a chance to get taken in the top 11 and that's Mauigoa and Fano.
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FireAg said:

Vince Blake said:

That didn't take long.


Something ain't right with that dude…

Runs in the family.
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I still have no idea how stefon diggs is playing in the playoffs. Zeke got suspended 6 games bc of a pissed off ex blaming him for **** that was debunked as revenge. Meanwhile, diggs is playing in the playoffs bc his arraignment was allowed to be moved to after the Superbowl.
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I really would like a trade down w one of those picks so we can pick up something in the 2nd and 3rd.
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Tksymm7 said:

If Faulk is there you sprint to the podium as fast as possible.


Faulk is probably best suited for a 5 tech at that size. He has had one good season rushing the passer and he's coming off his least productive season in college. He's also only forced one fumble in his career.

Gives me Shemar Stewart vibes. I'm not sure a guy like that should be taken in the top 20. I think we should be shooting for more of a true pass rusher.
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He's better than Shemar and was coached by an infinitely worse coach. The Cowboys need game changing talents on defense he has that in spades. He's also still incredibly young and learning. I like some of the guys they've taken in recent drafts, but I think they're of the high floor caliber and not necessarily of the high ceiling caliber. We need a high ceiling guy now.
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Nope Keldric Faulk is essentially Shemar 2.0 unfortunately. At his absolute best he'll become Tank Lawrence and that's not worth a top-15 pick.
Woods Ag
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Taco vibes
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Macarthur said:

I really would like a trade down w one of those picks so we can pick up something in the 2nd and 3rd.

I would be very reluctant to trade down from 12 just because I think there is going to be a Day 1 starter on defense there. 20 is prime for a potential trade down. That might be Ty Simpson territory. Cowboys pick before the Steelers so someone may want to jump them to get Simpson.
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One of the more common theories right now is that we get lucky and get one of the top DE, CBs, or the OSU safety at 12 and then get a day 1 starting LB at 20. Styles or the kid from Georgia are both considered guys that could be there since LB is not usually prioritized.

But, as always, it appears the Cowboys won 1 or 2 more games than necessary so we'll have to sweat it out. Being at 7 or 8 would be a much better position.
Woods Ag
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Simpson will rise to a top 10, probably too 5 pick.

Just wait… "he carried the offense in the SEC with absolutely no run game"

There will be 2 starters that we can plug in at those 2 picks that will be upgrades over what we got. Every year there are studs at the end of the 1st round. We just need to be patient. The cowboys don't need a ton of players. They need a couple of good players and we'll round into shape quickly.
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Bain is maybe the only DE/Edge player that could truly fall anywhere near us imo, and I still highly doubt that. Arvell Reese and David Bailey will likely test off the charts so I don't see them making it past pick six in all honesty. Bain might not flash quite like Reese or Bailey, so he could looked over a bit, but he's still so good I don't' see ANY chance Washington, New Orleans, KC, Cincy and Miami ALL pass on him. The next edge player that could be available is Faulk imo, whether you like him or hate him.

Downs is the interesting one. Again, I highly doubt he's available at 12 because without a doubt one of the four to five best players in this draft, but could see him get to 10 just because he's a safety and some of those teams probably don't need a safety that high.

Realistically I think we will have our choice of CBs, maybe one DE and Sonny Styles, and personally don't think we should be spending a top 12 pick on a CB when I think our biggest need is a playmaker in the front seven. We could be a little hampered at 12 is all I am trying to say. One of my arguments for Faulk is not only that he's a high ceiling player and young, but also because you have the 20th pick as well. It allows you to take that massive swing.
jr15aggie
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Woods Ag said:

The cowboys don't need a ton of players. They need a couple of good players and we'll round into shape quickly.


I agree, as far as rookies go, that we really just need to hit on our 1st two picks (starters and hopefully GOOD ones) and then we'll see what roll players we can add in rounds 4+.

But this is going to rely on Jerry being aggressive in free agency because we can't go into the draft reaching for positions. As you said, there will be studs available, but we can't control which ones.

We need to add a S, LB, and CB that can play at the very least. They don't have to be game changers, but we need to spend money to upgrade those spots immediately.

If we can add all of that, our new D coordinator is gonna have to figure out the rest. I seriously doubt we have money to add a "good" edge guy cause those guy are always overpriced in FA. It's an uphill battle but 1 year turnarounds are common in the NFL, it can be done.
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I think, right now, Caleb Downs (S) and either Styles (LB) or CJ Allen (LB - rising up boards fast) would be ideal for our #12. Not because of their draft grade, none of us have any idea about that at this point, but because of their positions.

CB and DE sometimes take a year or two to figure out the NFL. We really need an instant impact guy at #12 and right now, those are my top 3 for Dallas.
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We should have lost more games
 
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