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***Metroplex Fall/Winter Storms 2025***

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FTAG 2000 said:

All the model runs overnight coming in with a 2021 like event for much of the state.

For us, showing up to a foot of snow Saturday, low of 0 / high of 8 for Sunday, temps below freezing through the following Thursday, with another round of wintry precip in the Tues / Wed time frame.

Also possible is an ice with accumulation event on Friday preceding the snow, which would be problematic.

The last time the models across the board all locked in the same was the 2022 icemageddon. National Weather Service Fort Worth also put out an advance forecast this morning calling things out. They are on board with winter impacts as early as daytime Friday, and even mention the possibility of having to dismiss school early Friday to get people home before the precip starts.



Dude. Overreact much? All weather models are calling for cold, but none of them except for maybe one or two outliers are calling for 0 or highs in the single digits.
Temps below freezing through Thursday? Again most models are calling for it to warm back into the 40s by Tuesday and lows in the low 20s. Saturday & Sunday are for sure below freezing, but let's tap the brakes a bit on comparing this to 2021.
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CoppellAg93 said:

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Not sure why so many actively root for events like this to happen. They always back pedal as if they aren't rooting for it, but let's be honest. It's a total pain in the ass for everyone...seems like the only answer I hear is some form of "snow is cool to look at"


The kid in me always roots for one good snowfall each winter. Certainly don't care for the "Icemaeggedon" scenarios though.

No offense, but if I wanted snow in the winter I'd move to one of those god-awful states like Michigan. Nearly every time we get a winter storm, it's a slushy, icy bunch of BS. That's what happens when you're at the southern boundary of the plains like DFW is. Dry snow that we can all frolic in doesn't happen very often. Plus, for many years I worked in an industry that didn't shut down when we had ice everywhere -- in some cases it made my job even harder, so I'm extra sensitive.
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Spaceship said:

Ponder…the biggest hype man in social media weather coverage.

I like Reimer. He does not hype like others Ive watched. Good for all seasons too. Really good when we get into twister season.


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TSUAggie said:

FTAG 2000 said:

All the model runs overnight coming in with a 2021 like event for much of the state.

For us, showing up to a foot of snow Saturday, low of 0 / high of 8 for Sunday, temps below freezing through the following Thursday, with another round of wintry precip in the Tues / Wed time frame.

Also possible is an ice with accumulation event on Friday preceding the snow, which would be problematic.

The last time the models across the board all locked in the same was the 2022 icemageddon. National Weather Service Fort Worth also put out an advance forecast this morning calling things out. They are on board with winter impacts as early as daytime Friday, and even mention the possibility of having to dismiss school early Friday to get people home before the precip starts.



Dude. Overreact much? All weather models are calling for cold, but none of them except for maybe one or two outliers are calling for 0 or highs in the single digits.
Temps below freezing through Thursday? Again most models are calling for it to warm back into the 40s by Tuesday and lows in the low 20s. Saturday & Sunday are for sure below freezing, but let's tap the brakes a bit on comparing this to 2021.


Not overreacting. Just stating what the models show.
If we get precip like forecast on Saturday, and are overcast Sunday - Tuesday, it doesn't take a model to realize it won't warm back up very much. And models show another round of wintry precip on Tuesday.

Again, it's early and much can change. Just stating what's shown. All the local Mets are on board with this system, though cautioning extent (which is fair this far out). Odds are things will change but it doesn't hurt to talk about possible outcomes.

As you can see on this thread there are those with travel that don't have much chance to prep. I think they'd welcome the chance to do so before heading out of town.

As someone who had to try and talk a neighbor through finding all the plugs on my pool equipment and draining them because I was out of town when we got nailed with a pretty massive cold system and power outage, I sure would've appreciated the heads up with that event. My neighbor who got to drain pool equipment in sub-30 temps too.
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The very first sentence of your original post is a clear over reaction. That or you're really forgetting just how rare and extreme of an event we had in 2021
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TSUAggie said:

The very first sentence of your original post is a clear over reaction. That or you're really forgetting just how rare and extreme of an event we had in 2021


Seriously…there's a Grand Canyon sized gulf between wanting to take precautions and "it's a 2021 event all over again!!!1!1!1"
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TSUAggie said:

The very first sentence of your original post is a clear over reaction. That or you're really forgetting just how rare and extreme of an event we had in 2021


Not forgetting. This is also shaping up as a much different event with training precip courtesy of a moisture plume coming out of Mexico and the equator. That's pretty rare also.

NWS ft worth just announced likely winter storm watch coming on Wednesday with an upgrade to a warning expected on Thursday. With precip as early as noon Friday.

Plan accordingly. Or not.
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TSUAggie said:

FTAG 2000 said:

All the model runs overnight coming in with a 2021 like event for much of the state.

For us, showing up to a foot of snow Saturday, low of 0 / high of 8 for Sunday, temps below freezing through the following Thursday, with another round of wintry precip in the Tues / Wed time frame.

Also possible is an ice with accumulation event on Friday preceding the snow, which would be problematic.

The last time the models across the board all locked in the same was the 2022 icemageddon. National Weather Service Fort Worth also put out an advance forecast this morning calling things out. They are on board with winter impacts as early as daytime Friday, and even mention the possibility of having to dismiss school early Friday to get people home before the precip starts.



Dude. Overreact much? All weather models are calling for cold, but none of them except for maybe one or two outliers are calling for 0 or highs in the single digits.
Temps below freezing through Thursday? Again most models are calling for it to warm back into the 40s by Tuesday and lows in the low 20s. Saturday & Sunday are for sure below freezing, but let's tap the brakes a bit on comparing this to 2021.


Its their thing
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Serious change on Monday forecast this morning on my weather app. Leaning toward shutting my pool down now. That is three consecutive days below freezing? I wasn't going to go that route until another below freezing day was added the forecast this morning:

ETA: seeing a lot of variability on different forecasts for Monday. Really need to know as that is a tipping point for me vis a vis the pool
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2wealfth Man said:

Serious change on Monday forecast this morning on my weather app. Leaning toward shutting my pool down now. That is three consecutive days below freezing? I wasn't going to go that route until another below freezing day was added the forecast this morning:

ETA: seeing a lot of variability on different forecasts for Monday. Really need to know as that is a tipping point for me vis a vis the pool


If ya'll are looking at 3 days below freezing, then I would drain. I did so with our equipment during 2021 and was glad I did. Our pool guy told me that half his clients had total equipment loss with some of them exploding. They were the ones who didn't drain.

And it's not hard to drain it once you watch a video or two on YT, or have your pool guy show you if you use one. You probably know all of this.

We no longer live up there. Moved 7 hours south but we are now showing 29 for two days which will kill everything down here. So, my weekend project will be covering all of the plants. Much more of a PITA than draining pool equipment. It's pretty maddening because this will be 3 out of 5 years on the coast that we had to cover the landscape with mixed results. I thought we were mostly getting away from this.
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2wealfth Man said:

Serious change on Monday forecast this morning on my weather app. Leaning toward shutting my pool down now. That is three consecutive days below freezing? I wasn't going to go that route until another below freezing day was added the forecast this morning:

ETA: seeing a lot of variability on different forecasts for Monday. Really need to know as that is a tipping point for me vis a vis the pool


I plan to let run....i think the biggest variable for me might be a SIGNIFICANT freezing rain / snow forecast b/c then I might prefer to drain and just cover and protect from direct freezing rain. We are now in a new world of annually having to think about what to do and honestly I have had issues shutting down and I have had issue running. None major but always a little something here or there....
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I was going to let it run but now I'll drain. It takes 10 minutes to do and then I don't have to worry.

Back in 2010, I was outside in 20 F sleet at 10 PM trying to drain equipment when the power went out. Never again.
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I am considering draining which I have not done before - I have pentair products (pump, heater, de filter, booster pump for cleaner). Anyone have a solid video? Mainly nervous about missing something and creating a problem.

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The Collective said:

I am considering draining which I have not done before - I have pentair products (pump, heater, de filter, booster pump for cleaner). Anyone have a solid video? Mainly nervous about missing something and creating a problem.




Easy to miss some of the 3-5 drains on the pump. I missed one because it's on the underside of the pump near ground so I couldn't see it. Filter should be easy. One big drain on the bottom.
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Do you drain pool below skimmers first?
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Uh oh, I guess it's officially happening

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The Shank Ag said:

Uh oh, I guess it's officially happening




What a ****ing chode
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Teslag said:

Do you drain pool below skimmers first?


My dad always put part of a pool noodle in his skimmers but kept the water level the same.
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Also, what position do you place valves in after draining everything?
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Teslag said:

Do you drain pool below skimmers first?


I do not recall if I did that for the one time I drained the equipment. I will say I did suffer a cracked/broken PVC pipe to one of our fountains during that same storm. So, I was not able to run the fountains without watering jetting out of the back of fence down the driveway and into the alley. We had multiple fountains that were built into the side of the pool but sat up higher than the skimmers, obviously. The PVC to those fountains ran through a raised garden bed that was built along the back of the pool so those pipes were closer to the surface, if you will, than any of the pipe running to/from skimmers and pool drains.
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I believe draining below tile line is important if we are expecting hard freeze like 2021 where pools froze, ice expanded, and then tile cracked. Otherwise, I don't know the point of draining. Can do the water bottle in skimmer trick to compensate for expansion.
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I much prefer Jesse Hawila to Pete Doofus, I mean Delkus.
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FTAG 2000 said:

rsf0626 said:

Big nothing burger on its way


Thanks for your compelling contribution Eeyore.

He's the opposite of Eeyore as far as I'm concerned: an optimist. I have to drive in the s*** if it comes.
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Delkus would be a better fit as a salesman in a used car lot, dressed in a lime green leisure suit.
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Can we have a separate pool thread and leave this one for actual weather?
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I prefer to just let the pump run for the 60 hours of freezing temps.

I assume we don't have to worry about long electricity outages like we did last time?
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PlanoAg98 said:

I prefer to just let the pump run for the 60 hours of freezing temps.

I assume we don't have to worry about long electricity outages like we did last time?

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PlanoAg98 said:

I prefer to just let the pump run for the 60 hours of freezing temps.

I assume we don't have to worry about long electricity outages like we did last time?

Provided the natural gas wells are all properly listed as critical infrastructure, which thousands weren't in 2021 that led to them inadvertently having power cut off during load shedding, there shouldn't be any issues besides localized outages due to ice/trees.
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PlanoAg98 said:

I prefer to just let the pump run for the 60 hours of freezing temps.

I assume we don't have to worry about long electricity outages like we did last time?


with 5 to 8 inches of ice/snow predicted that's a lot of weight on trees and powerlines
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PlanoAg98 said:

I prefer to just let the pump run for the 60 hours of freezing temps.

I assume we don't have to worry about long electricity outages like we did last time?


Ercot should be better prepared, but the wildcard this time will be localized outages where ice on tree limbs fall on powerlines. No way to compensate for that. Also I wonder about data center loads. They can't exactly shut those locations off, so if you're near one, you should probably plan for potential risk of outages
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Only changes in the models since yesterday have been that they are bringing in more ice for us on Friday, and keeping us below freezing longer into Monday. We could be looking at over 72 hours below freezing from Friday into Monday, including single digits on Sunday morning.

Not everyone is going to get a crazy amount of precipitation, but everyone's going to get some. The models are all over the place on precipitation, totals, with anywhere from 1 inch to 1 foot of precip from Friday through Sunday. But that one inch could all be sleet and ice, which would suck.

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Just please no freezing rain.
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The Collective said:

Just please no freezing rain.

Ice and car wrecks all over the metroplex.
 
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