1979: El banishes Vecna and [possibly] creates the upside down?

Unknown year in between: El touches the Demogorgon and opens up the gate for the first time.

1983: Demogorgon breaches the gate and attacks the lab. El escapes.

I think that's all we know for now?

Did not mean to hit the sad face.

redline248 said:

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Yeah but her diary was all about dating Steve

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The Diary's last entry was specifically Nov 6, 1983 - I just finished the show last night and that date stuck out to me.

Nov 6 is the day of Will's disappearance in Episode 1, right?

nosoupforyou said:

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How about the comment from Vecna to Nancy in the swimming pool that he killed Barb -"when I kill someone I never forget" - that's a big clue I think

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he didnt say he killed her, that was just his way of reminding nancy about her unintentionally getting barb killed by making her wait outside with the demogorgan, while she was busy getting it on with steve.

Urban Ag said:

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I know this season is not technically over but it was my favorite so far. Outstanding.

I think the production did a very good job in downplaying certain characters who's shelf lifes have essentially expired and playing up those characters who have evolved to the ones the fans really want to see lead this thing through to a great ending. Very on point with the audience.

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I thought the first 2 episodes really dragged, especially Jonathan crying about Nancy to Generic Stoner Character.

3-7 were outstanding, although my wife and I both find Mike's character to be kind of the worst. The sleuthing team that doesn't include him and Will trying desperately to not use his deepening voice is a lot more fun and democratic.

I really don't think Eleven created the upside down. If she did, they should probably kill her because that is some god-awful power to have.

If Murray taking down Yuri in the plane doesn't win some sort of award, there is no justice in Hollywood.

I would totally take a spinoff series that is Hopper, Murray, Dustin, and Steve doing pretty much whatever.

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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Generic Stoner Character.

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You mean the best new character of the show?

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I find him very much a typecast. I like Eddie a whole lot better.

helloimustbegoing said:

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Brian Earl Spilner said:

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Generic Stoner Character.

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You mean the best new character of the show?

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I find him very much a typecast. I like Eddie a whole lot better.

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The entire show is built around 80's typecasts/stereotypes. It's kind of a staple of the show.

helloimustbegoing said:

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Urban Ag said:

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I know this season is not technically over but it was my favorite so far. Outstanding.

I think the production did a very good job in downplaying certain characters who's shelf lifes have essentially expired and playing up those characters who have evolved to the ones the fans really want to see lead this thing through to a great ending. Very on point with the audience.

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I thought the first 2 episodes really dragged, especially Jonathan crying about Nancy to Generic Stoner Character.

3-7 were outstanding, although my wife and I both find Mike's character to be kind of the worst. The sleuthing team that doesn't include him and Will trying desperately to not use his deepening voice is a lot more fun and democratic.

I really don't think Eleven created the upside down. If she did, they should probably kill her because that is some god-awful power to have.

If Murray taking down Yuri in the plane doesn't win some sort of award, there is no justice in Hollywood.

I would totally take a spinoff series that is Hopper, Murray, Dustin, and Steve doing pretty much whatever.

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Agreed across the board. Jonathan outlived his utility and let's be real, him with Nancy just doesn't fly anymore. Will and Mike were endearing - kids. They don't really make the grade as teens. These things happen. Relegating all three to the California nothing burger side plot was a great idea. I will say though, the shootout in the house in CA was badass. Top notch filming.

Hopper, Murray, Dustin, and Steve spinoff, yeah I'd watch that with a few appearances by Robin and Joyce. Not sorry, I really like the Robin character and I've had crush on Winona since high school.

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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helloimustbegoing said:

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Brian Earl Spilner said:

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Generic Stoner Character.

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You mean the best new character of the show?

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I find him very much a typecast. I like Eddie a whole lot better.

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The entire show is built around 80's typecasts/stereotypes. It's kind of a staple of the show.

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I went to high school on the west coast between 1988 and 1992. 18.5% of the male students looked like Eddie Munson. It's science.

I'm not sure if my wife's opinion of me has lowered or increased based on my ability to answer all of her D&D questions thus far.

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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Official character power rankings:

1. Hopper
2. Steve
3. Argyle
4. Murray

Everyone else.

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The correct order is
1. Nancy
2. Nancy
3. Nancy
4. Nancy
5. Nancy
6. Steve+Robin

she's cute

but good god she needs to eat something

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I really don't think Eleven created the upside down. If she did, they should probably kill her because that is some god-awful power to have.

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My take is that the upside-down was always there & Eleven's super powers tore open the boundary between worlds.

001 was sucked into that world & became Vecma. This begs the question: Why did 001 get turned into an upside-down being immediately upon entry & the Hawkins kids can enter with no ill effects?
Perhaps punching through the wall causes a change, whereas entering an already open portal causes no change?

Side note: I'm surprised no one has mentioned the obvious call out to Poltergeist scene when they throw the rope into the closet & it passes through the other dimension.

The real tragedy of this season is Steve not getting to wear the Scoops Ahoy costume while fighting Vecna's flying snake bats.

Can't have shirtless Steve if he's in uniform

redline248 said:

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Brian Earl Spilner said:

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Official character power rankings:

1. Hopper
2. Steve
3. Argyle
4. Murray

Everyone else.

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The correct order is
1. Nancy
2. Nancy
3. Nancy
4. Nancy
5. Nancy
6. Steve+Robin

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Huh? Robin >>>> Nancy

Nancy's mom

Yeeeowwwww


/yes, I'm old

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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Official character power rankings:

1. Hopper
2. Steve
3. Argyle
4. Murray

Everyone else.

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hmmmm....

1. Steve
2. Dustin
3. Hopper
4. Murray (Bret Gelman reminds me ALOT of Paul Giamatti)
5. Eddie - I like him more than Argyle...

but I also have the weird hots / crush for Nancy... she's on the painfully skinny side but damn cute.

Best Character List

1. Steve - the most believable character, a good-looking doofus who occasionally does something right.
2. Dustin - He could kill the rest of the characters and I would still love him for the song to end Season 3
3. Murray - his performance this year has moved him past Hopper, but I'm sure Hopper will regain a top spot as we progress.
4. Hopper - no explanation needed.
5. Max - Was lukewarm on her before this year, but her portrayal of post-trauma emotions was really spot on for me. You don't want to talk about it, you don't want other people to help you do fun things and get back to normal, you just want everyone to leave you the eff alone until you sort it all out yourself.