Is Greenland next?

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In reply to dds08 • 7:54a, 1/18/26
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I've been wondering about the terrible timing being before the midterms as well. Are the Chinese and/or Russians up to something in Greenland that isn't public knowledge or hasn't been published by the propaganda MSM?
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8:14a, 1/18/26

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8:21a, 1/18/26
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I'd be interested to know what percentage of all EU GDP comes from "procurement" by US companies.

I'd also be interested to see what percentage of Mag7 gross revenue comes from the EU.

My gut reaction is to say that France wants the EU to FAFO but that may not be fair.
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In reply to agent-maroon • 8:26a, 1/18/26
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agent-maroon said:
I've been wondering about the terrible timing being before the midterms as well. Are the Chinese and/or Russians up to something in Greenland that isn't public knowledge or hasn't been published by the propaganda MSM?


If Trump had something, don't you think he would put it out on X? He sure posts a lot of other comments on it.
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In reply to Hubert J. Farnsworth • 8:30a, 1/18/26
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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:
I honestly think this whole Greenland thing is Trump trying to get something else out of it. He's not a genius, but he's gotten pretty good at getting the screeching liberals/dems to zone in on the meat dangling from one of his hands while the other hand is doing something else. The crap he says that enrages them is part of it.


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In reply to will25u • 8:37a, 1/18/26
Why is france and the eu interfering so much with a decision to be made by Greenland and Denmark?

They keep saying its a decision for and by Greenland, Denmark and then hatred states, but their actions clearly show that no eu country had any real sovereignty to make a decision outside the bubble
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In reply to MRB10 • 8:40a, 1/18/26
Dont know but they sure do come up with some fines for us companies when they need to clear rent for the eu
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In reply to agent-maroon • 8:41a, 1/18/26
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agent-maroon said:
I've been wondering about the terrible timing being before the midterms as well. Are the Chinese and/or Russians up to something in Greenland that isn't public knowledge or hasn't been published by the propaganda MSM?


This might be an angle to try to force Russia to accept a Ukraine peace deal.
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8:48a, 1/18/26
Here's the solution


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In reply to ts5641 • 8:52a, 1/18/26
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ts5641 said:
Trump's gonna freaking get Greenland isn't he??


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In reply to TexasAggie73 • 8:58a, 1/18/26
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Yes, the Chinese have been entangling themselves in the politics/business in Denmark as with the EU (and much of the southern hemisphere/our schools/Democrat party etc).

The real threat some understand, especially within the tiny Danish navy, but they like the rest of NATO are just used to outsourcing hard power to us, then demanding an outsized voice in how we use it/when, as with the Qatari's.

I put this earlier in the thread but this very long thread about how Denmark is functionally a government operated on behalf of/for Maersk bears note when trying to understand the Danish aristocracy's reaction to Trump over Greenland (and their CCP interests/alliance).

Denmark, as with NATO itself, is just a veneer on a larger set of geopolitical/trade issues.
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In reply to GAC06 • 9:18a, 1/18/26
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NATO has had only one country invoke article five. That was us. Denmark responded, and 43 Danes died in Afghanistan at our behest.

This is utterly shameful and pathetic. If Trump gave the order to invade Greenland, I honestly wonder if it would be followed.



This post needs to be shared until the isolationists stop spouting nonsense.
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In reply to boulderaggie • 9:29a, 1/18/26
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NATO was very successful and served it's purpose well as a counter to the Soviet Union. The USSR doesn't exist anymore and Europe is basically lost and one generation away from being out-bred into something unrecognizable. I think Trump, right or wrong, is trying to position us for the paradigm that comes next. It sure looks like Trump is thinking in terms of the Western Hemisphere. He's removing the influence of China, Iran, and Russia from Central and South America - first in Panama, then Venezuela, and now applying pressure to Colombia and Cuba. Will we start hearing Brazil getting called out? Then add in Greenland and its strategic importance coupled with Trump's Golden Dome initiative, things start to make a little more sense. I wonder if some type of a new Western Hemispheric Alliance is on the horizon. Whatever is going on, I think we can all agree that we're living in VERY interesting times.


Yeah, it's US strategic doctrine now. It's right there in the public policy paper released by the DOW. Again, most people simply ignore that reality or are still ignorant of it.

On NATO, it should be an extinct arrangement at this point, or at least a highly reformed one. There is zero reason for the US to be the #1 benefactor of NATO. I don't have a problem with us being in it, but we should be a minority contributor and not the primary one.

The EU has 3x the population of Russia and 9-10x the GDP of Russia. Yet, they can't muster enough resources and people to defend against the so called Russian threat. This fact alone tells you they aren't worth defending if they can't/won't defend themselves.
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In reply to K2-HMFIC • 9:37a, 1/18/26
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I bet that if there was a need for added US security, Greenland would let us increase our military capacity there without threatening to take it over like a bully. In fact, Greenland has stated so.
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In reply to TexasAggie73 • 10:32a, 1/18/26
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All we have to do is ask Greenland and Denmark. They are more than willing to allow it.
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In reply to K2-HMFIC • 10:35a, 1/18/26
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GAC06 said:
NATO has had only one country invoke article five. That was us. Denmark responded, and 43 Danes died in Afghanistan at our behest.

This is utterly shameful and pathetic. If Trump gave the order to invade Greenland, I honestly wonder if it would be followed.



This post needs to be shared until the isolationists stop spouting nonsense.


It was in the best interest of every NATO country to participate in the effort to eradicate the terrorists and those that harbored them. If AQ could do that to us, it could happen anywhere, and would have.

Stop acting like this was some sacrificial act on the their part for the sake of the US.

Also, if we hadn't protected them since WW2, they'd be speaking Russian right now.

Them being involved was simply self interest and paying part of a debt they can never repay.
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11:31a, 1/18/26



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UN Ambassador Mike Waltz on Greenland:

"Denmark just doesn't have the resources or capacity to do what needs to be done in the northern region. And to the Democrats who say 'they're giving you full access,' everybody knows if you're renting a place you treat it differently than if you own it."


As I said earlier in the thread- while yes we have a partnership with nato, Greenland, and Denmark and could put more resources in Greenland, its apparent that this administration doesnt believe it can be sufficiently done without being 100% under our control.

I tend to agree- Europe brings all sorts of bureaucratic red tape, nato is basically us plus a platoon of some random euro nation and theres no way that Europe or Greenland can be expected to utilize the mineral resources there to our collective advantage.
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In reply to dds08 • 11:41a, 1/18/26
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This is a petulant child that's not getting what he/she wants esque move by Trump unless this is some art of the deal crap.

We have too much to lose with the midterms coming. He cannot wait till after midterms to try and push this through?


I don't think it's a petulant child type thing. I think it's a seeing the writing on the wall type thing. Most of Europe has been invaded by Muslims. We are basically in a big Cold war with China and somewhat Russia. The world is waking up to that and wondering which Super Power to bet on winning this cold war. You see countries like Canada, Australia, and Mexico making deals with other countries to try get away from the tarriffs we are imposing. You also see Europe moving in the direction of trying to make their own weapons (wanting less reliance on the US for their weapons and defense)...And also, seeing some countries in Europe flirting with China.

Basically, we are beginning to find out who are truly our friends and who truly aren't our friends. We are finding out some of these countries we've heavily supported for years were only in it for what they could get from us. As soon as we ask for a little payback (tariffs and NATO payments) they are exploring other options.

So now maybe our strategy should be to pillage and plunder all we can to keep the value of the US dollar up and also become fortress USA before China sinks this ship that is already taking on water given our massive debt..

If we have control of the oil reserves in Venezuela and control of the Rare Earth minerals in Greenland that would hose some of China's goals in this cold war..They want the Yuan to become the reserve currency of the world.
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11:52a, 1/18/26
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In reply to Who?mikejones! • 11:57a, 1/18/26
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Who?mikejones! said:


As I said earlier in the thread- while yes we have a partnership with nato, Greenland, and Denmark and could put more resources in Greenland, its apparent that this administration doesnt believe it can be sufficiently done without being 100% under our control.

I tend to agree- Europe brings all sorts of bureaucratic red tape, nato is basically us plus a platoon of some random euro nation and theres no way that Europe or Greenland can be expected to utilize the mineral resources there to our collective advantage.

Bessent was on MTP this morning and Welker was hammering him on Greenland as she led with the Dem talking points.

He confirms exactly what you indicate. There is no interest by Trump to maintain the status quo and work under some sort of "permission by Denmark and the EU regarding how we protect our homeland.

Greenland is evidently key to the Golden Dome and Trump loves empire building.

Of course Randy was up next with his Dem pal Tim Kaine and saying Trump is wrong on Greenland, wrong on VZ, wrong on tariffs and believes the lege is the superior branch of government. For Randy supporters, realize your buddy is befriending Dems like Tim Rrarrgggh Kaine to oppose Trump.

Dude is a little *****, a traitor.
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In reply to TexasAggie73 • 11:58a, 1/18/26
TexasAggie73 said:
I bet that if there was a need for added US security, Greenland would let us increase our military capacity there without threatening to take it over like a bully. In fact, Greenland has stated so.



Correct…Denmark and Greenland have both stated (and we have a treaty which allows us) to increase our security.


Instead we're acting like a bully.
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In reply to flown-the-coop • 11:59a, 1/18/26
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Who?mikejones! said:


As I said earlier in the thread- while yes we have a partnership with nato, Greenland, and Denmark and could put more resources in Greenland, its apparent that this administration doesnt believe it can be sufficiently done without being 100% under our control.

I tend to agree- Europe brings all sorts of bureaucratic red tape, nato is basically us plus a platoon of some random euro nation and theres no way that Europe or Greenland can be expected to utilize the mineral resources there to our collective advantage.

Bessent was on MTP this morning and Welker was hammering him on Greenland as she led with the Dem talking points.

He confirms exactly what you indicate. There is no interest by Trump to maintain the status quo and work under some sort of "permission by Denmark and the EU regarding how we protect our homeland.

Greenland is evidently key to the Golden Dome and Trump loves empire building.

Of course Randy was up next with his Dem pal Tim Kaine and saying Trump is wrong on Greenland, wrong on VZ, wrong on tariffs and believes the lege is the superior branch of government. For Randy supporters, realize your buddy is befriending Dems like Tim Rrarrgggh Kaine to oppose Trump.

Dude is a little *****, a traitor.



Yes. Greenland is important for Golden Dome…but we can make GD4A work under the current treaty.

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In reply to K2-HMFIC • 12:01p, 1/18/26
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K2-HMFIC said:
TexasAggie73 said:
I bet that if there was a need for added US security, Greenland would let us increase our military capacity there without threatening to take it over like a bully. In fact, Greenland has stated so.



Correct…Denmark and Greenland have both stated (and we have a treaty which allows us) to increase our security.


Instead we're acting like a bully.

We are acting strategically. We don't need to subvert our sovereignty to foreign powers as doing so means you are no longer… sovereign.

It's actually the Danes and the EU being the bullies. They possess zero strategic interest in Greenland. It's part of our area the world and it makes sense we put it under our control permanently.
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In reply to K2-HMFIC • 12:03p, 1/18/26
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No we can't. See previous post.

Americans need to quit being the wusses we have been the past few decades.

If we want something we make a polite offer. If they refuse and we still want it, we will take it.

You really think the US needs to "ask permission" or rely on some treaty? With flippin Denmark?
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12:04p, 1/18/26
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At the end of the day, in spite of all the Trump posturing, all the European "panic", and all the leftist "Reeeeeeing", I suspect the U.S. gets bases there as well as long term mining deals - all the US ultimately wanted in the first place.

Much wailing and gnashing of teeth for nothing.
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In reply to B-1 83 • 12:06p, 1/18/26
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I think most people tend to believe that and I was inclined to as well.

But Bessent was very convicted that permission to build and fortify bases is not what we want. He was very specific that we want total control of the land mass.

Control, not permission.
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12:21p, 1/18/26
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us having control of the land allows us to have access to all the natural resources without eu intervention. it also allows us to build militarily there without any foreign considerations.
we are barreling into a post global environment and the euros are trying desperately to hang onto the post ww2 bretton woods arrangement
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In reply to B-1 83 • 12:26p, 1/18/26
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At the end of the day, in spite of all the Trump posturing, all the European "panic", and all the leftist "Reeeeeeing", I suspect the U.S. gets bases there as well as long term mining deals - all the US ultimately wanted in the first place.

Much wailing and gnashing of teeth for nothing.

All sides are negotiating how they negotiate. Globalist. the EU, NATO, and leftist use the media, fear, and an army of sheep to spread doomsday fear to the public. Trump uses big numbers, take over threats, think Mexico is going to pay for the wall to negotiate getting as much as what he wants as he can. What makes them different is Trump is willing to make a deal where both parties feel like they lost something, which is usually a good sign of a fair deal. Leftist paint themselves in such a small corner with their fear propaganda that making a fair deal would cause their now foaming at the mouth base to come after them.
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12:27p, 1/18/26
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Upside: The number of social science college graduates in this country who can point to Greenland on a map has increased to 26%.
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In reply to Squadron7 • 12:31p, 1/18/26
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Al Roker spent a week up there several years ago, so that may have informed some of those social science grads then. Downside is they all think Roker is an educated meteorologist and climate expert.
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12:56p, 1/18/26
Starmer said, "The future of Greenland is for Greenland themselves."

If a Brit said the same about Britain, Starmer would have them arrested. If Trump said that about America, Starmer would accuse him of racism.

Britain is not an ally anymore. Screw them.
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1:39p, 1/18/26
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Do German troops get frequent flyer miles flying commercial?



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1:42p, 1/18/26
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So what was point of this? As saber rattling goes that was more of baby's rattle.
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1:43p, 1/18/26
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So it looks like Denmark only spends $10 billion on defense.


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