Is Greenland next?

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Do y'all think Trump is making the world safer/more stable? I'm curious what the responses will be.
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Buttermaker said:

Do y'all think Trump is making the world safer/more stable? I'm curious what the responses will be.


Historical fact that he's made it safer. He has 9 different peace agreements. Destroyed the ISIS Caliphate in mere months once Obama's ROE were lifted.

Pretty much destroyed Iran's ability to wage global terrorism and particularly in the Mideast for the time being and potentially forever if their collapse keeps up.

This isn't even debatable.
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Buttermaker said:

Do y'all think Trump is making the world safer/more stable? I'm curious what the responses will be.

Vastly. He's had a cleanup on virtually every aisle thanks to Peepaw-Biden mainly.

What has he done that has made the world less safe? Arrest Maduro? Angle for a comprehensive peace plan in Gaza? Cause the pending bankruptcy of the mullah's bank? Set the Cuban regime on the brink of collapse? Cut terrorist funding via the UN and USAID? Made the Euroweenies wet their pants? Gutted Russian oil revenue?

Sophomoric claims of stability from 'deals' like this are what put us in this situation:
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Buttermaker said:

Do y'all think Trump is making the world safer/more stable? I'm curious what the responses will be.


Oil price is down.

Usually with the world in conflict oil price is elevated.

Democrats love high price of oil.

Some with oil income love them some Democrats.
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Ramdiesel said:

Deputy Travis Junior said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

It must be nice for the EU that they have a bunch of mouth breathers here in the US that take their side over our own countries interests. All of this stuff started when Trump started demanding fair trade deals with our supposed allies like Canada and the European countries. The TDS riddled mouth breathers couldn't believe that Trump would dare try to get us more fair trade deals than the garbage deals that were in place before.


How is it in our interest to annex Greenland? We have a military base there where we already have free rein to do just about whatever we want (why literally tried to dig nuclear missile silos under ice sheets during the Cold War and hid a lot of the details from Denmark) and Denmark knows where their bread is buttered so they follow our lead on just about everything related to national security. This is pointless. We already have the benefits while Denmark does all the administrative work. What are we getting that we don't already have?

Also, I have a very low opinion of the European Union, but antagonizing them for the lulz is stupid. A meh ally is better than no ally.


You answered your own question. More and more of the European countries are "meh" allies now. They used to be pretty solid unquestionable allies..What will they be in the future as they grow into more and more Muslim like territories? Buying Greenland now is a play for what is pretty easy to predict is coming in the future. I mean you can already see which direction their loyalties are headed, they've gone from solid to "meh"... We don't want to just be "renting" Greenland when/if the day comes they decide they have no loyalty to us.



I don't find this compelling at all. There are <60k people in Greenland and we already have a military base there. If we ever find ourselves in a position where we have to take it for national security purposes, we can do so in 24 hours.

Nobody has articulated why the status quo (military base in a country run by a staunch ally) is inadequate. This looks like a solution in search of a problem.
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Invading NATO and destroying the NATO alliance is bad for America. Horrible for America.

All because he didn't get the peace prize.

When did "no new wars" turn into "invade NATO"?

Do you guys flip on every single issue, just because Trump says so? This is madness.

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I mean that letter is pretty embarrassing but I've learned you cannot argue with ignorance or success. And Trump, so far, has been pretty damn successful with foreign diplomacy.

In all honesty I love his motivations and ideas, I just hate the way he goes about it. And that's not to say it doesn't work, but I feel it could be much more efficient and smooth if he was a little more diplomatic. Give the Danes and EU an easy out. Don't smother their face in it before trying to negotiate.
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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

Why does this whole Greenland thing rile up so many average Americans? Is it just TDS? If Trump somehow ended up getting us Greenland(I don't think it will happen), are these people going to lose their minds over it?

It's literally an 80-20 issue.

Blowing up NATO, destroying our economic relationship with Europe, which would tank the market...because...

(checks notes)

Someone didn't get the Nobel Peace Prize.
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Never become a knob slobbler for any Govt official. When you do you just took the last drop.

Common sense says dont do it but people are insecure to make their own decisions on both sides of the aisle
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Greenland is the primary land defense area against any missile attacks from Russia and China.

Currently, the nations taking the lead for Greenland defense cannot even provide adequate defense for their homelands much less for a remote land mass.

This is Trump attempting to build a defensive perimeter for the inevitable resources wars that are building up, i.e, Taiwan, Middle East, etc.
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Deputy Travis Junior said:

Ramdiesel said:

Deputy Travis Junior said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

It must be nice for the EU that they have a bunch of mouth breathers here in the US that take their side over our own countries interests. All of this stuff started when Trump started demanding fair trade deals with our supposed allies like Canada and the European countries. The TDS riddled mouth breathers couldn't believe that Trump would dare try to get us more fair trade deals than the garbage deals that were in place before.


How is it in our interest to annex Greenland? We have a military base there where we already have free rein to do just about whatever we want (why literally tried to dig nuclear missile silos under ice sheets during the Cold War and hid a lot of the details from Denmark) and Denmark knows where their bread is buttered so they follow our lead on just about everything related to national security. This is pointless. We already have the benefits while Denmark does all the administrative work. What are we getting that we don't already have?

Also, I have a very low opinion of the European Union, but antagonizing them for the lulz is stupid. A meh ally is better than no ally.


You answered your own question. More and more of the European countries are "meh" allies now. They used to be pretty solid unquestionable allies..What will they be in the future as they grow into more and more Muslim like territories? Buying Greenland now is a play for what is pretty easy to predict is coming in the future. I mean you can already see which direction their loyalties are headed, they've gone from solid to "meh"... We don't want to just be "renting" Greenland when/if the day comes they decide they have no loyalty to us.



I don't find this compelling at all. There are <60k people in Greenland and we already have a military base there. If we ever find ourselves in a position where we have to take it for national security purposes, we can do so in 24 hours.

Nobody has articulated why the status quo (military base in a country run by a staunch ally) is inadequate. This looks like a solution in search of a problem.


It's the raw resources + full ownership of military activities. Two-pronged here.
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nortex97 said:


Will see if that is true.

Why does that x post sound exactly like it was written by ChatGPT?
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Buttermaker said:

Trump is unhinged, if any of you think he cares about anyone but himself, give me a break.

Which is obviously why he put his life in danger to run for office again
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Well said
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YouBet said:

Deputy Travis Junior said:

Ramdiesel said:

Deputy Travis Junior said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

It must be nice for the EU that they have a bunch of mouth breathers here in the US that take their side over our own countries interests. All of this stuff started when Trump started demanding fair trade deals with our supposed allies like Canada and the European countries. The TDS riddled mouth breathers couldn't believe that Trump would dare try to get us more fair trade deals than the garbage deals that were in place before.


How is it in our interest to annex Greenland? We have a military base there where we already have free rein to do just about whatever we want (why literally tried to dig nuclear missile silos under ice sheets during the Cold War and hid a lot of the details from Denmark) and Denmark knows where their bread is buttered so they follow our lead on just about everything related to national security. This is pointless. We already have the benefits while Denmark does all the administrative work. What are we getting that we don't already have?

Also, I have a very low opinion of the European Union, but antagonizing them for the lulz is stupid. A meh ally is better than no ally.


You answered your own question. More and more of the European countries are "meh" allies now. They used to be pretty solid unquestionable allies..What will they be in the future as they grow into more and more Muslim like territories? Buying Greenland now is a play for what is pretty easy to predict is coming in the future. I mean you can already see which direction their loyalties are headed, they've gone from solid to "meh"... We don't want to just be "renting" Greenland when/if the day comes they decide they have no loyalty to us.



I don't find this compelling at all. There are <60k people in Greenland and we already have a military base there. If we ever find ourselves in a position where we have to take it for national security purposes, we can do so in 24 hours.

Nobody has articulated why the status quo (military base in a country run by a staunch ally) is inadequate. This looks like a solution in search of a problem.


It's the raw resources + full ownership of military activities. Two-pronged here.

We already have ownership of military activities...

...but per Trump's own words the reason he's doing this is because he didn't get the Nobel Peace Prize.

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Buttermaker said:

Do y'all think Trump is making the world safer/more stable? I'm curious what the responses will be.


Absolutely the world is safer and more stable.

Lets compare to Obama. Obama undermined Mubarak in Egypt which led to his ouster and take over by the Muslim Brotherhood, a terrorist organization. He then took military action against Libya which has essentially destroyed that country. It's a complete mess. He then started the Syrian civil war which killed around 700,000 people. He allowed Iran to enrich uranium and build it's nuclear capability. ISIS had almost complete control of Iraq during his tenure.

Under Biden, there were hundreds of attacks on US bases by Iranian backed terrorist groups. Hamas killed 32 US citizens during the October 7th attack. The ME was on fire. The disastrous withdrawal from Astan got Americans killed and left that country in chaos. Putin invaded Ukraine, resulting in east Europe destabilization.

The world is much safer and more stable with Trump at the helm. No question.
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Do y'all ever get tired of crashing out over how the news portrays everything? Invade Greenland/NATO? Seriously? You cannot possible believe that right? If NATO countries thought it was even possible they would have sent more than a depleted platoons worth of personnel to "secure" it.
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shiftyandquick said:

Invading NATO and destroying the NATO alliance is bad for America. Horrible for America.

All because he didn't get the peace prize.

When did "no new wars" turn into "invade NATO"?

Do you guys flip on every single issue, just because Trump says so? This is madness.




Says the Reagan Republican who advocates far left wing ideology.

You will note that there is wide mix of opinions on this issue within this very thread.
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Troy91 said:

Greenland is the primary land defense area against any missile attacks from Russia and China.

Currently, the nations taking the lead for Greenland defense cannot even provide adequate defense for their homelands much less for a remote land mass.

This is Trump attempting to build a defensive perimeter for the inevitable resources wars that are building up, i.e, Taiwan, Middle East, etc.

You mean this missile defense base?

The one that's already there?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pituffik_Space_Base
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Buttermaker said:

Do y'all think Trump is making the world safer/more stable? I'm curious what the responses will be.

Let's wait and see, no one on this board knows what's going on, bunch of wild guesses and opinions, time is going to tell where this all goes. A bunch of keyboard warriors YELLING at one another doesn't prove anything. The US may have intel showing enemies have plans to come after Greenland .. no one on this board would know any of that. Let's ride this one out, keep the opinions down to a civil level and see where this goes. There is zero chance our military goes into Greenland just to appease Trumps ego, they would go in to establish a safety barrier for the US and the EU if it is now needed. Patience will tell us what really is going on with Greenland
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No, we need much more than that.
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Ramdiesel said:

Deputy Travis Junior said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

It must be nice for the EU that they have a bunch of mouth breathers here in the US that take their side over our own countries interests. All of this stuff started when Trump started demanding fair trade deals with our supposed allies like Canada and the European countries. The TDS riddled mouth breathers couldn't believe that Trump would dare try to get us more fair trade deals than the garbage deals that were in place before.


How is it in our interest to annex Greenland? We have a military base there where we already have free rein to do just about whatever we want (why literally tried to dig nuclear missile silos under ice sheets during the Cold War and hid a lot of the details from Denmark) and Denmark knows where their bread is buttered so they follow our lead on just about everything related to national security. This is pointless. We already have the benefits while Denmark does all the administrative work. What are we getting that we don't already have?

Also, I have a very low opinion of the European Union, but antagonizing them for the lulz is stupid. A meh ally is better than no ally.


You answered your own question. More and more of the European countries are "meh" allies now. They used to be pretty solid unquestionable allies. What will they be in the future as they grow into more and more Muslim like territories? Buying Greenland now is a play for what is pretty easy to predict is coming in the future. I mean you can already see which direction their loyalties are headed, they've gone from solid to "meh"... We don't want to just be "renting" Greenland when/if the day comes they decide they have no loyalty to us.

This is actually a pretty good point
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Deputy Travis Junior said:

Ramdiesel said:

Deputy Travis Junior said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

It must be nice for the EU that they have a bunch of mouth breathers here in the US that take their side over our own countries interests. All of this stuff started when Trump started demanding fair trade deals with our supposed allies like Canada and the European countries. The TDS riddled mouth breathers couldn't believe that Trump would dare try to get us more fair trade deals than the garbage deals that were in place before.


How is it in our interest to annex Greenland? We have a military base there where we already have free rein to do just about whatever we want (why literally tried to dig nuclear missile silos under ice sheets during the Cold War and hid a lot of the details from Denmark) and Denmark knows where their bread is buttered so they follow our lead on just about everything related to national security. This is pointless. We already have the benefits while Denmark does all the administrative work. What are we getting that we don't already have?

Also, I have a very low opinion of the European Union, but antagonizing them for the lulz is stupid. A meh ally is better than no ally.


You answered your own question. More and more of the European countries are "meh" allies now. They used to be pretty solid unquestionable allies..What will they be in the future as they grow into more and more Muslim like territories? Buying Greenland now is a play for what is pretty easy to predict is coming in the future. I mean you can already see which direction their loyalties are headed, they've gone from solid to "meh"... We don't want to just be "renting" Greenland when/if the day comes they decide they have no loyalty to us.



I don't find this compelling at all. There are <60k people in Greenland and we already have a military base there. If we ever find ourselves in a position where we have to take it for national security purposes, we can do so in 24 hours.

Nobody has articulated why the status quo (military base in a country run by a staunch ally) is inadequate. This looks like a solution in search of a problem.

Because you are looking through the lens of the past. You keep using the word "staunch ally," when they are anything but. I also want to know what kind of defenses you can set up if it came to the point where you had to take Greenland by force. This seems like a great plan, and I hope it is your kids building those bases and not mine if we follow your plan.

Staunch allies don't invite your biggest threat into the kitchen. Greenland has been told repeatedly to stop partnering itself with Chinese shipping companies. Did they? Nope. What are they doing to protect NORAD besides letting the Chinese have access right next to these systems? What are they doing to be a serious member of NATO? They can't protect Americas north, which means we have to protect it anyways, so it has to be under our control. The only thing the EU can be counted on is giving up their countries to foreigners and locking up those that speak about it.

I appreciate the people that do not want to upset the applecart, but if you haven't noticed it yet, we will have another world war. I would like my country to be doing everything it can to prepare for it.
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TacosaurusRex said:

Deputy Travis Junior said:

Ramdiesel said:

Deputy Travis Junior said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

It must be nice for the EU that they have a bunch of mouth breathers here in the US that take their side over our own countries interests. All of this stuff started when Trump started demanding fair trade deals with our supposed allies like Canada and the European countries. The TDS riddled mouth breathers couldn't believe that Trump would dare try to get us more fair trade deals than the garbage deals that were in place before.


How is it in our interest to annex Greenland? We have a military base there where we already have free rein to do just about whatever we want (why literally tried to dig nuclear missile silos under ice sheets during the Cold War and hid a lot of the details from Denmark) and Denmark knows where their bread is buttered so they follow our lead on just about everything related to national security. This is pointless. We already have the benefits while Denmark does all the administrative work. What are we getting that we don't already have?

Also, I have a very low opinion of the European Union, but antagonizing them for the lulz is stupid. A meh ally is better than no ally.


You answered your own question. More and more of the European countries are "meh" allies now. They used to be pretty solid unquestionable allies..What will they be in the future as they grow into more and more Muslim like territories? Buying Greenland now is a play for what is pretty easy to predict is coming in the future. I mean you can already see which direction their loyalties are headed, they've gone from solid to "meh"... We don't want to just be "renting" Greenland when/if the day comes they decide they have no loyalty to us.



I don't find this compelling at all. There are <60k people in Greenland and we already have a military base there. If we ever find ourselves in a position where we have to take it for national security purposes, we can do so in 24 hours.

Nobody has articulated why the status quo (military base in a country run by a staunch ally) is inadequate. This looks like a solution in search of a problem.

Because you are looking through the lens of the past. You keep using the word "staunch ally," when they are anything but. I also want to know what kind of defenses you can set up if it came to the point where you had to take Greenland by force. This seems like a great plan, and I hope it is your kids building those bases and not mine if we follow your plan.

Staunch allies don't invite your biggest threat into the kitchen. Greenland has been told repeatedly to stop partnering itself with Chinese shipping companies. Did they? Nope. What are they doing to protect NORAD besides letting the Chinese have access right next to these systems? What are they doing to be a serious member of NATO? They can't protect Americas north, which means we have to protect it anyways, so it has to be under our control. The only thing the EU can be counted on is giving up their countries to foreigners and locking up those that speak about it.

I appreciate the people that do not want to upset the applecart, but if you haven't noticed it yet, we will have another world war. I would like my country to be doing everything it can to prepare for it.


Let's dissect this.
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Greenland has been told repeatedly to stop partnering itself with Chinese shipping companies. Did they? Nope.

Well…according to shipping records only 15 Chinese commercial vessels visited Greenland last year.
The Port of Long Beach get's more in a single day.

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What are they doing to protect NORAD besides letting the Chinese have access right next to these systems?


Where are the Chinese getting access next to Pitffuik? That is literally not true.
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What are they doing to be a serious member of NATO?

I served w/the Danes in Afghanistan…and 43 of them died there supporting the only ever activation of Article V.
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They can't protect Americas north, which means we have to protect it anyways, so it has to be under our control.

Well…the Thule Agreement already gives us that…so what else do we need? Be specific.
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Buttermaker said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

Why does this whole Greenland thing rile up so many average Anericans? Is it just TDS? If Trump somehow ended up getting us Greenland(I don't think it will happen), are these people going to lose their minds over it?

So, just because Greenland can't defend itself, we are going to take it. Sounds like something Putin would do.

I am not seeing anyone seriously saying we're going to take it. Just like no serious person ever believed Trump was colluding with Russia or that he stole documents from our government.
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The Danes died protecting their own self interest, not the interest of NATO. It's already been explained to you.
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K2-HMFIC said:

TacosaurusRex said:

Deputy Travis Junior said:

Ramdiesel said:

Deputy Travis Junior said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

It must be nice for the EU that they have a bunch of mouth breathers here in the US that take their side over our own countries interests. All of this stuff started when Trump started demanding fair trade deals with our supposed allies like Canada and the European countries. The TDS riddled mouth breathers couldn't believe that Trump would dare try to get us more fair trade deals than the garbage deals that were in place before.


How is it in our interest to annex Greenland? We have a military base there where we already have free rein to do just about whatever we want (why literally tried to dig nuclear missile silos under ice sheets during the Cold War and hid a lot of the details from Denmark) and Denmark knows where their bread is buttered so they follow our lead on just about everything related to national security. This is pointless. We already have the benefits while Denmark does all the administrative work. What are we getting that we don't already have?

Also, I have a very low opinion of the European Union, but antagonizing them for the lulz is stupid. A meh ally is better than no ally.


You answered your own question. More and more of the European countries are "meh" allies now. They used to be pretty solid unquestionable allies..What will they be in the future as they grow into more and more Muslim like territories? Buying Greenland now is a play for what is pretty easy to predict is coming in the future. I mean you can already see which direction their loyalties are headed, they've gone from solid to "meh"... We don't want to just be "renting" Greenland when/if the day comes they decide they have no loyalty to us.



I don't find this compelling at all. There are <60k people in Greenland and we already have a military base there. If we ever find ourselves in a position where we have to take it for national security purposes, we can do so in 24 hours.

Nobody has articulated why the status quo (military base in a country run by a staunch ally) is inadequate. This looks like a solution in search of a problem.

Because you are looking through the lens of the past. You keep using the word "staunch ally," when they are anything but. I also want to know what kind of defenses you can set up if it came to the point where you had to take Greenland by force. This seems like a great plan, and I hope it is your kids building those bases and not mine if we follow your plan.

Staunch allies don't invite your biggest threat into the kitchen. Greenland has been told repeatedly to stop partnering itself with Chinese shipping companies. Did they? Nope. What are they doing to protect NORAD besides letting the Chinese have access right next to these systems? What are they doing to be a serious member of NATO? They can't protect Americas north, which means we have to protect it anyways, so it has to be under our control. The only thing the EU can be counted on is giving up their countries to foreigners and locking up those that speak about it.

I appreciate the people that do not want to upset the applecart, but if you haven't noticed it yet, we will have another world war. I would like my country to be doing everything it can to prepare for it.


Let's dissect this.
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Greenland has been told repeatedly to stop partnering itself with Chinese shipping companies. Did they? Nope.

Well…according to shipping records only 15 Chinese commercial vessels visited Greenland last year.
The Port of Long Beach get's more in a single day.

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What are they doing to protect NORAD besides letting the Chinese have access right next to these systems?


Where are the Chinese getting access next to Pitffuik? That is literally not true.
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What are they doing to be a serious member of NATO?

I served w/the Danes in Afghanistan…and 43 of them died there supporting the only ever activation of Article V.
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They can't protect Americas north, which means we have to protect it anyways, so it has to be under our control.

Well…the Thule Agreement already gives us that…so what else do we need? Be specific.

I will answer the only one that matters.

All of it. Full and total control. Greenland becomes an independent territory outside of defense and free trade.
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Buttermaker said:

Do y'all think Trump is making the world safer/more stable?

Without a doubt. I love what he has been doing.
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TacosaurusRex said:

K2-HMFIC said:

TacosaurusRex said:

Deputy Travis Junior said:

Ramdiesel said:

Deputy Travis Junior said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

It must be nice for the EU that they have a bunch of mouth breathers here in the US that take their side over our own countries interests. All of this stuff started when Trump started demanding fair trade deals with our supposed allies like Canada and the European countries. The TDS riddled mouth breathers couldn't believe that Trump would dare try to get us more fair trade deals than the garbage deals that were in place before.


How is it in our interest to annex Greenland? We have a military base there where we already have free rein to do just about whatever we want (why literally tried to dig nuclear missile silos under ice sheets during the Cold War and hid a lot of the details from Denmark) and Denmark knows where their bread is buttered so they follow our lead on just about everything related to national security. This is pointless. We already have the benefits while Denmark does all the administrative work. What are we getting that we don't already have?

Also, I have a very low opinion of the European Union, but antagonizing them for the lulz is stupid. A meh ally is better than no ally.


You answered your own question. More and more of the European countries are "meh" allies now. They used to be pretty solid unquestionable allies..What will they be in the future as they grow into more and more Muslim like territories? Buying Greenland now is a play for what is pretty easy to predict is coming in the future. I mean you can already see which direction their loyalties are headed, they've gone from solid to "meh"... We don't want to just be "renting" Greenland when/if the day comes they decide they have no loyalty to us.



I don't find this compelling at all. There are <60k people in Greenland and we already have a military base there. If we ever find ourselves in a position where we have to take it for national security purposes, we can do so in 24 hours.

Nobody has articulated why the status quo (military base in a country run by a staunch ally) is inadequate. This looks like a solution in search of a problem.

Because you are looking through the lens of the past. You keep using the word "staunch ally," when they are anything but. I also want to know what kind of defenses you can set up if it came to the point where you had to take Greenland by force. This seems like a great plan, and I hope it is your kids building those bases and not mine if we follow your plan.

Staunch allies don't invite your biggest threat into the kitchen. Greenland has been told repeatedly to stop partnering itself with Chinese shipping companies. Did they? Nope. What are they doing to protect NORAD besides letting the Chinese have access right next to these systems? What are they doing to be a serious member of NATO? They can't protect Americas north, which means we have to protect it anyways, so it has to be under our control. The only thing the EU can be counted on is giving up their countries to foreigners and locking up those that speak about it.

I appreciate the people that do not want to upset the applecart, but if you haven't noticed it yet, we will have another world war. I would like my country to be doing everything it can to prepare for it.


Let's dissect this.
Quote:

Greenland has been told repeatedly to stop partnering itself with Chinese shipping companies. Did they? Nope.

Well…according to shipping records only 15 Chinese commercial vessels visited Greenland last year.
The Port of Long Beach get's more in a single day.

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What are they doing to protect NORAD besides letting the Chinese have access right next to these systems?


Where are the Chinese getting access next to Pitffuik? That is literally not true.
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What are they doing to be a serious member of NATO?

I served w/the Danes in Afghanistan…and 43 of them died there supporting the only ever activation of Article V.
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They can't protect Americas north, which means we have to protect it anyways, so it has to be under our control.

Well…the Thule Agreement already gives us that…so what else do we need? Be specific.

I will answer the only one that matters.

All of it. Full and total control. Greenland becomes an independent territory outside of defense and free trade.

Why?

You keep failing to answer that.

What specifically do we NOT have right now that we need?

Just saying the words "full and total control" isn't a justification.
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fullback44 said:

Buttermaker said:

Do y'all think Trump is making the world safer/more stable? I'm curious what the responses will be.

Let's wait and see, no one on this board knows what's going on, bunch of wild guesses and opinions, time is going to tell where this all goes. A bunch of keyboard warriors YELLING at one another doesn't prove anything. The US may have intel showing enemies have plans to come after Greenland .. no one on this board would know any of that. Let's ride this one out, keep the opinions down to a civil level and see where this goes. There is zero chance our military goes into Greenland just to appease Trumps ego, they would go in to establish a safety barrier for the US and the EU if it is now needed. Patience will tell us what really is going on with Greenland

I agree with all you said here. I will add, I think it's way too early to tell if he's making things safer/more stable. Maybe at the present like some have pointed out things are safer, I think time will tell if that ends up being the end game.
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He allowed provided the funds for Iran to enrich uranium and build it's nuclear capability.

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Perhaps Trump wants to get this deal closed before midterms because he doesn't want to risk having repubs lose the house and fumble everything away entirely.

He's already dreading dems impeach him if they get control of the house.

Unfortunately our nation is the arbiters of freedom and peace worldwide. There's no way we can let Russia or China be the world's police. Their benevolence level is too low.

We must squash this counter to the SWIFT payment system and the BRICS currency.
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Logos Stick said:

The Danes died protecting their own self interest, not the interest of NATO. It's already been explained to you.

Sooo...you're saying...if NATO was not around the Danes would have voluntarily decided to go to Afghanistan along w/the US?

Bold assumption considering the WTC werent in Copenhagen.
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dds08 said:

Perhaps Trump wants to get this deal closed before midterms because he doesn't want to risk having repubs lose the house and fumble everything away entirely.

Sadly, republicans are doing NOTHING. They refuse to even confirm his judicial appointees. They would rather lose than see Trump's agenda fully implemented.
 
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