Is Greenland next?

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I don't think anyone thinks we are about to initiate military action against Greenland, but expanding our presence there wouldnt be a bad thing. Most of the countries that touch the artic circle are looking to establish more permanent shipping routes above the circle. Panama canal has had issues with having enough water due to droughts and the suez canal has issues with missile fire and other third world bull***** So a northern route where we control land at both ends isnt a terrible idea, its a quicker route than the panama canal too.

China and Russia are already using established routes north of Siberia vs. going through the Suez or around Africa.

Trump is an ego maniac like all successful politicians, so he has a list of legacy building items that he wants done before he leaves office, I bet Venezuela was on and and so is Greenland.
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There is no way we ever even consider actually taking Greenland.

But if we did, we better rename it Redwhiteandblueland.
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We're talking about taking Greenland, but aren't all the hotties in Iceland? Maybe we should rethink this.
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Ed Harley said:

FobTies said:

Ed Harley said:


Why in the absolute **** would Greenland be "next?"




So that means Greenland is "next" for the U.S. to strike and take their president into captivity? Makes total sense.


Funny the knee jerk shoot the messenger posts in this thread.

Obviously as mentioned in the OP its about aquiring Greenland on some level, probably leveraging financing/trade. No one is talking about snatching any leaders.
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Speak for yourself sir. I want the King of Denmark in ADX Florence by open of business Monday morning
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The amount of reeeeeeee over a narco-terrorist dictator with outstanding legal arrest warrants being brought to justice. Folks need to look in the mirror and evaluate how pathetic they are being
nortex97
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The trash talk over it is pretty funny.

EU and Ukrainian flags there in the bio just made me laugh.
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Never heard of this back story/history.
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lol. We could take Greenland with a platoon of marines.
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Hmmm what are the odds Trump does succeed in some type of annex or acquisition of Greenland?

Well when this market opened in Dec 24' it spiked as high at 34% in Jan 25'.





As for Cuba, its a coin toss whether their communist leader is out within the next 12 months.


Ed Harley
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I have no problem with Maduro being taken out. I was in favor of bombing Iran and doing it again if necessary. I'm hawkish on foreign policy.

But I don't understand the desire to take over Greenland, other than a straight land grab.

Can someone enlighten me?
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Ed Harley said:

I have no problem with Maduro being taken out. I was in favor of bombing Iran and doing it again if necessary. I'm hawkish on foreign policy.

But I don't understand the desire to take over Greenland, other than a straight land grab.

Can someone enlighten me?


Self defense purposes
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Who?mikejones! said:

Ed Harley said:

I have no problem with Maduro being taken out. I was in favor of bombing Iran and doing it again if necessary. I'm hawkish on foreign policy.

But I don't understand the desire to take over Greenland, other than a straight land grab.

Can someone enlighten me?


Self defense purposes

From what?
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nortex97 said:

The trash talk over it is pretty funny.

EU and Ukrainian flags there in the bio just made me laugh.

The Greenland talk is entirely un-helpful and a massive self-own.
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Who?mikejones! said:

Ed Harley said:

I have no problem with Maduro being taken out. I was in favor of bombing Iran and doing it again if necessary. I'm hawkish on foreign policy.

But I don't understand the desire to take over Greenland, other than a straight land grab.

Can someone enlighten me?


Self defense purposes

I'll admit I'm not as much of a history of buff as many on this board are, but I'm also not even close to ignorant on the subject.

I can't recall our foreign policy ever including commandeering a country/territory SOLELY for defense purposes (ie without even a pretextual reason for taking it over).

Seems like a bad idea if that's the only reason. And the talk about it isn't helpful.
FobTies
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Greenland's rare earth reserves are estimated at 1.5 million metric tons, representing nearly 20% of known global reserves

Claim "national security" and aquire critical materials for EVs and other tech.
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AggieGunslinger said:

Most of the countries that touch the artic circle are looking to establish more permanent shipping routes above the circle. Panama canal has had issues with having enough water due to droughts and the suez canal has issues with missile fire and other third world bull***** So a northern route where we control land at both ends isnt a terrible idea, its a quicker route than the panama canal too.

I did a quick look at shipping distance from LA to London. It's a thousand miles shorter to go through the Arctic Circle than the Panama Canal. I had no idea.
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Ed Harley said:

I can't recall our foreign policy ever including commandeering a country/territory SOLELY for defense purposes (ie without even a pretextual reason for taking it over

Well, there's Alaska. And Texas. And The Philippines. And Guam and Midway.

Should we keep going?
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Sounds like we need that type of IUD program in Minnesota. Course I'm game for non-reversible sterilization for certain demographics… only way to be sure.
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fc2112 said:

Ed Harley said:

I can't recall our foreign policy ever including commandeering a country/territory SOLELY for defense purposes (ie without even a pretextual reason for taking it over

Well, there's Alaska. And Texas. And The Philippines. And Guam and Midway.

Should we keep going?

Perhaps you missed my use of the word "commandeering" instead of "buying" and also overlooked my use of the phrase "even a pretextual reason" (ie we were at war)?

Because none of the examples you gave with the exception of maybe Guam fit into those categories and certainly don't fit into something close to unprovokedly taking over Greenland.

Quit being a smartass and move on if you don't want to discuss this seriously. Shall I keep going?
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Ed Harley said:

Who?mikejones! said:

Ed Harley said:

I have no problem with Maduro being taken out. I was in favor of bombing Iran and doing it again if necessary. I'm hawkish on foreign policy.

But I don't understand the desire to take over Greenland, other than a straight land grab.

Can someone enlighten me?


Self defense purposes

I'll admit I'm not as much of a history of buff as many on this board are, but I'm also not even close to ignorant on the subject.

I can't recall our foreign policy ever including commandeering a country/territory SOLELY for defense purposes (ie without even a pretextual reason for taking it over).

Seems like a bad idea if that's the only reason. And the talk about it isn't helpful.


It's resources and what aggiegunslinger already said. I'll add that we don't have the ship capability that the other players who touch the Arctic have.... as in ships that can navigate and break ice. Been an issue for many years now. Overall, we have terrible maritime capability outside of the military.

So, we are at a monumental disadvantage if/when the Arctic becomes the next resource frontier. If Greenland was in our control, then that changes the math.

I'm not justifying it per se. just sharing background.

Thus, the interest in greenland.
boulderaggie
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Trump should simply buy it from the people. Vote to secede and join US and every resident receives $500K and large parcel land ownership. Would be the cheapest option that puts Greenlanders future in their own hands. 95% would vote for it.
nortex97
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The Canadians aren't really any better than us with Ice breakers from what I've read. The Danes? Pfffft…

I don't think he is just toying with this topic.
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It's pretty obvious Trump wants Greenland as a training base for the eventual invasion of Antarctica where he intends to finish the hunt for the secrete Nazi base under the "ICE" there and use the weapons to establish the fourth and final reich.

The symbology of Trump's love of "ICE" is another confirming factor.

Follow me as I explore more detailed story lines the NYT will come up with like Maduro dancing led to his arrest.

To the topic, if Trump desires Greenland then it will be ours in one way or another. And it makes a ton of sense for it to be some sort of territory or protectorate of the United States.

And if we are already protecting / defending areas (and we do Greenland, Canada, etc) then we should enjoy the exploits, riches and plunder of those lands.
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94DCAg said:

Nothing should be next. Our elected officials need to step up, follow the constitution and put Trump in a corner. Someone needs to tell him no. There is no limit to his unlawfulness. The grown ups need to enter the room.

If you got the 67 votes, impeach and remove him.

Else, put up a good candidate in 2028. In the interim, Trump as the Executive is doing Executive things. Just cause you don't like it does not make it automatically unconstitutional.

The precedent for the action has long been in place and the legal justification has been ruled sound by SCOTUS.
nortex97
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94DCAg said:

Nothing should be next. Our elected officials need to step up, follow the constitution and put Trump in a corner. Someone needs to tell him no. There is no limit to his unlawfulness. The grown ups need to enter the room.

The grownups entered the room in January last year. President Trump has committed zero unlawful acts. Enforcing the outstanding arrest warrant on Maduro (for whom the Biden administration offered an award) is not an exception.
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If I recall correctly, I actually started a thread on this topic a few years ago. Back then I think we literally had 1 ice breaker to our name. Pretty pathetic. Canada and Russia who we would be competing with were a good bit ahead of us. That was a few years ago although I doubt we've improved much since then.
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94DCAg said:

Nothing should be next. Our elected officials need to step up, follow the constitution and put Trump in a corner. Someone needs to tell him no. There is no limit to his unlawfulness. The grown ups need to enter the room.


"Hey guys! No arresting narco-terror dictators wanted via legal arrest warrrants by both the current and past administration for major crimes in the US!"

Some of you need to reevaluate your lives
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94DCAg said:

Nothing should be next. Our elected officials need to step up, follow the constitution and put Trump in a corner. Someone needs to tell him no. There is no limit to his unlawfulness. The grown ups need to enter the room.


You will have to reverse 80 years of precedent. Congress left constitutional responsibility at the end of WWII.

And if we are going to return to being actual Constitutionalists there is a whole host of issues we need to address along with war making. As in much of what the federal government does now is not Constitutional. Lot of work to do here if that's where we want to go.
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YouBet said:

If I recall correctly, I actually started a thread on this topic a few years ago. Back then I think we literally had 1 ice breaker to our name. Pretty pathetic. Canada and Russia who we would be competing with were a good bit ahead of us. That was a few years ago although I doubt we've improved much since then.

I know next to nothing about this crap but apparently in the 'heavy' ice breaker category (and some older smaller ones prone to catching fire) we have one and so do they (the Canadians).


In a sane world we'd have more than a half dozen and the Euro's would be thanking us for the help.
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YouBet said:

Ed Harley said:

Who?mikejones! said:

Ed Harley said:

I have no problem with Maduro being taken out. I was in favor of bombing Iran and doing it again if necessary. I'm hawkish on foreign policy.

But I don't understand the desire to take over Greenland, other than a straight land grab.

Can someone enlighten me?


Self defense purposes

I'll admit I'm not as much of a history of buff as many on this board are, but I'm also not even close to ignorant on the subject.

I can't recall our foreign policy ever including commandeering a country/territory SOLELY for defense purposes (ie without even a pretextual reason for taking it over).

Seems like a bad idea if that's the only reason. And the talk about it isn't helpful.


It's resources and what aggiegunslinger already said. I'll add that we don't have the ship capability that the other players who touch the Arctic have.... as in ships that can navigate and break ice. Been an issue for many years now. Overall, we have terrible maritime capability outside of the military.

So, we are at a monumental disadvantage if/when the Arctic becomes the next resource frontier. If Greenland was in our control, then that changes the math.

I'm not justifying it per se. just sharing background.

Thus, the interest in greenland.

Thank you, sir.
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They mad

Decay
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Ok now I'm sold

Time to annex RedWhiteandBlueland
 
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