Is Greenland next?

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Forgive me for beating this dead horse but this first post by Ferguson is AI slop and it's making me insane that everyone's commentary has the same damn structure now. My initial reaction is to immediately write it off as fake.

Anyway, I'm quite sure we've always had plans for taking Greenland. We pretty much war game everything from my understanding. Now, they probably had/have to dust this one off, but I bet we at least have an existing kernel of a plan for Greenland already.

I really do not want us to invade Greenland, however I'm also increasingly distrustful of the Big 3 in Europe + Australia. They are anti-freedom, pro-Islamic states at this point. I frankly do not see how we remain allies with any of them going forward if they continue down the path they've chosen.

In addition, if Greenland was smart and thinking ahead to the new geopolitical realities they would entertain the US offer. Their future is much more secure with us vs a completely de-fanged Europe. The reality of the next global order will be a bi-polar resetting at best and a multi-polar order at worst. If the latter, then Greenland would be stupid not to talk to us because Europe has little reach. If China and/or Russia want to land some boats on Greenland (a huge freaking land mass), then the only ones that can stop them is the US.
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I don't really care if we invade or not, but we really only need to get 50.1 percent of the 57K Greenlanders who do vote to align with us if/after getting their independence. But there are only 40K eligible voters, and most aren't Danish (something like 90 percent are Inuit still despite the forced sterilization programs the brutal colonialist Danes inflicted on them in the 60's/70's), so in truth, assuming a 90 percent turnout, we'd only need around 18K votes.

Greenland has a population roughly the size of Carrolton or Lewisville, and an average income of around $35K/year. Take out their Danish ruling class of snobs and it's closer to $20K.

Offering enough cash to sway that many people who make $20K a year to join us in some tangible partnership separate from Denmark is not real hard to envision, and it wouldn't cost billion$, and more than likely just a pittance of a rounding error in our federal spending.
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Danish people are the largest immigrant population in Greenland. For some reason they have a relatively high number of immigrants from the Philippines. The US is represented by about 40 people.
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Yeah, I still think they will at least look at the offer, or when they get wind of it there will be some rethinking. It looks like above that the opposition party already wants to talk so the cracks are already there.
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Green2Maroon said:

Danish people are the largest immigrant population in Greenland. For some reason they have a relatively high number of immigrants from the Philippines. The US is represented by about 40 people.

That's damn odd. Talk about culture and geography shock.
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Absolutely. It would be one thing for someone from Canada or even here in the US to move there. But the Philippines?
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Green2Maroon said:

Danish people are the largest immigrant population in Greenland. For some reason they have a relatively high number of immigrants from the Philippines. The US is represented by about 40 people.

Yes, but that is still only around 9 percent of the population, and the Inuit don't even get the red carpet treatment by Copenhagen that is extended to their Islamic invaders.

The resentment is real, imho.

The Filipinos are great fishermen/sea-faring people as well, hence their '2nd largest,' non-European component (still tiny overall population).

Other opportunities also exist for Greenland to benefit the US, such as stationing much of our inmate/prison population there, if acquired.
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Green2Maroon said:

Absolutely. It would be one thing for someone from Canada or even here in the US to move there. But the Philippines?

My son's girlfriend's mom is from the Phillipines and met her dad in Canada. They currently live in a small town in Alaska. Maybe the Filipinos just like that frigid Arctic climate for whatever reason.
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China:South China Sea
China:Taiwan
Russia:Ukraine
Russia:Crimea


The Greenlanders seriously do not want to deal with those two bullies. They ought to work with Trump.
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agent-maroon said:

Green2Maroon said:

Absolutely. It would be one thing for someone from Canada or even here in the US to move there. But the Philippines?

My son's girlfriend's mom is from the Phillipines and met her dad in Canada. They currently live in a small town in Alaska. Maybe the Filipinos just like that frigid Arctic climate for whatever reason.

Must remind them of home…
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Fumbleruski said:

In no way is Greenland "next". From a geopolitical perspective it's stable and we have normal relations with Denmark in addition to established assets there that have been there for a while. We will basically bolster that relationship over time with security guarantees that will better help the US interests in that region.


isn't that all Trump is really wants. if he, anyone really want to take over Greenland then he's crazier than I thought.
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You know the world has gone crazy when even Greenland is suddenly very important.
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Green2Maroon said:

You know the world has gone crazy when even Greenland is suddenly very important.

I was scoffing at the national security excuse. We have one of our most important bases that's been there for years, how is it all the sudden an issue? Then I Google China and Greenland, and it became clear. We're potentially going about it the wrong way, but we definitely need to stop that growing foothold China has there.
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We need to really flirt with them for the mining and business opportunities. Get them to agree to more military bases. Air and sea port facilities.
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Green2Maroon said:

We need to really flirt with them for the mining and business opportunities. Get them to agree to more military bases. Air and sea port facilities.

Whatever it takes to get China off the island. Having an nuclear adversary close to our ballistic warning system is no bueno.
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Meanwhile, the Danes firm up purchasing a hundred hellfire missiles from Lockheed.


Marco Rubio is in Europe to meet with the Euroweenies about Greenland today, I read.
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Very long thread. Article on Maersk Sea-Land history.
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"Critics on both sides of the Atlantic now question what right the U.S. has to threaten an ally who volunteered to fight alongside American soldiers in two different conflicts. Denmark deployed tens of thousands of troops to Afghanistan and Iraq over two decades and suffered the third-highest per capita casualty rate in NATO.

In return for their sacrifices, the U.S. government is floating the idea of taking and annexing Greenland, a territory Denmark has controlled for longer than the U.S. has even existed.

The United States threatening to seize Greenland by force from an ally that lost soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan destroys American credibility around the world. Every nation that depends on U.S. protection is taking note. So is every adversary."

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"Greenland's party leaders rejected President Trump's repeated calls for the US to take control of the island, saying that Greenland's future must be decided by its people.

"We don't want to be Americans, we don't want to be Danes, we want to be Greenlanders," Greenland Prime Minister Jens-Frederik Nielsen and four party leaders said in a statement Friday night.

Greenland's party leaders reiterated that "Greenland's future must be decided by the Greenlandic people."

GREENLAND
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US has war plans for pretty much every scenario. There is nothing illegal about planning.

AI slop is dumb.

We have been practicing Artic defense with Norway forever. This is a slight adjustment to that plan. Not a big deal for planning purposes.

And, if something pops off, you will be grateful for all of the planning.
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Quote:

"We don't want to be Americans, we don't want to be Danes, we want to be Greenlanders," Greenland Prime Minister Jens-Frederik Nielsen and four party leaders said in a statement Friday night.

Appreciate this. I would want the same thing.

However, he's delusional if he thinks he can be an independent country without an iron clad security agreement and his best option is the USA.
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I mean reading between the lines we're concerned they'll be Russian soon. So if they don't want that, maybe it's time to play ball
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YouBet said:

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"We don't want to be Americans, we don't want to be Danes, we want to be Greenlanders," Greenland Prime Minister Jens-Frederik Nielsen and four party leaders said in a statement Friday night.

Appreciate this. I would want the same thing.

However, he's delusional if he thinks he can be an independent country without an iron clad security agreement and his best option is the USA.

That's akin to the mayor of Carollton saying he doesn't want to be Texian or Mexican, but Carolltonian. It's nonsensical for a massive island, of 57K. This is the Danish leftist/colonialist/unionist party there. And this former badminton player was elected by a whopping…4,850 'personal' votes (total). Oh, and he just apologized for the Danes 'forced contraception' campaign:
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On 27 August 2025, Nielsen, along with Danish prime minister Mette Frederiksen, issued an official apology on behalf of the Danish and Greenlandic governments for historic abuses against Greenlandic women, including forced contraception.

The mayor of Lewisville shouldn't drive international geopolitics and nuclear defense any more than this clown.
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YouBet said:

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"We don't want to be Americans, we don't want to be Danes, we want to be Greenlanders," Greenland Prime Minister Jens-Frederik Nielsen and four party leaders said in a statement Friday night.

Appreciate this. I would want the same thing.

However, he's delusional if he thinks he can be an independent country without an iron clad security agreement and his best option is the USA.

Greenland is currently protected by NATO and could remain so even if independent. In the meantime, as the US is part of NATO it is already helping provide an ironclad agreement for Greenland's security.
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The Chinese have not just been observing 'Greenland' things from the sideline.


NATO "security" means US protection and absolutely nothing else, as shown by the Danes stationing around a hundred coast guard troops on Greenland.

The Danes/Maersk and their CCP pals have profited immensely from this structure as I linked above. About a quarter of their fleet are Chicom built to date, but expanding moving forward.
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Decay said:

I mean reading between the lines we're concerned they'll be Russian soon. So if they don't want that, maybe it's time to play ball
Don't you get it, our job is to provide free security so Greenland and Denmark can make coin by partnering with China. Duh
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Reading the tea leaves, either they are getting wise to the negotiation process and developing their own talking points for leverage, or going the path of foolishness and creating conditions which would legitimately permit force should we ever get into a conflict with the Chinese.
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Fitch said:

Reading the tea leaves, either they are getting wise to the negotiation process and developing their own talking points for leverage, or going the path of foolishness and creating conditions which would legitimately permit force should we ever get into a conflict with the Chinese.


Give me Literally Hitler as my overlord (who won't even be in office by the time any arrangement really got momentum) vs an emasculated Europe who imprisons their own citizens for wrongthink.

This is such a no brainer I can't believe these people are balking at all. But I have common sense and can look ahead and see the obvious.
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YouBet said:

Fitch said:

Reading the tea leaves, either they are getting wise to the negotiation process and developing their own talking points for leverage, or going the path of foolishness and creating conditions which would legitimately permit force should we ever get into a conflict with the Chinese.


Give me Literally Hitler as my overlord (who won't even be in office by the time any arrangement really got momentum) vs an emasculated Europe who imprisons their own citizens for wrongthink.

This is such a no brainer I can't believe these people are balking at all. But I have common sense and can look ahead and see the obvious.

Think it just shows you how much geopolitical influence is being puppeteerd into Greenland. The more resistance to this happening, gives me the idea there really is a strategic reason we need to acquire it.
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YouBet said:

Fitch said:

Reading the tea leaves, either they are getting wise to the negotiation process and developing their own talking points for leverage, or going the path of foolishness and creating conditions which would legitimately permit force should we ever get into a conflict with the Chinese.


Give me Literally Hitler as my overlord (who won't even be in office by the time any arrangement really got momentum) vs an emasculated Europe who imprisons their own citizens for wrongthink.

This is such a no brainer I can't believe these people are balking at all. But I have common sense and can look ahead and see the obvious.

If the situation was reversed most here would balk too.

Greenland is strategically important but Trumps approach here is poor. His own rhetoric feeds the literally Hitler narrative. Its Kind of strange when people I know in Europe see the US as a bigger threat that China or Russia. Much of that is due to the media but Trump does not help.
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Agreed. Granted we don't know the conversations that occurred behind closed doors but the reality is Europe doesn't see China as the same threat we do. He risks pushing them into their arms and a China-Europe partnership is a major problem for us.
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AustinScubaAg said:

YouBet said:

Fitch said:

Reading the tea leaves, either they are getting wise to the negotiation process and developing their own talking points for leverage, or going the path of foolishness and creating conditions which would legitimately permit force should we ever get into a conflict with the Chinese.


Give me Literally Hitler as my overlord (who won't even be in office by the time any arrangement really got momentum) vs an emasculated Europe who imprisons their own citizens for wrongthink.

This is such a no brainer I can't believe these people are balking at all. But I have common sense and can look ahead and see the obvious.

If the situation was reversed most here would balk too.

Greenland is strategically important but Trumps approach here is poor. His own rhetoric feeds the literally Hitler narrative. Its Kind of strange when people I know in Europe see the US as a bigger threat that China or Russia. Much of that is due to the media but Trump does not help.


Well, lol. That is insane but it actually makes sense from the point of view that Western Europeans are anti-free speech just like China and Russia.

The Big 3 in Europe are currently trying to work up their resolve to ban X and the UK currently imprisons white people for stating opinions on social media. They would fit nicely with China.

All the more reason Greenland should put their future in our hands vs Europe.
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nortex97 said:


Very long thread. Article on Maersk Sea-Land history.



Thanks for bringing that back up. And John Konrad's no right-winger. Another gcaptain article from a few years later: https://gcaptain.com/maersk-backs-away-from-us-military-contracts/
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Interesting that Denmark intelligence says:

"China is preparing for a military presence in the Arctic.";

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