And why is that? Let's see if you can make it sound bad
Massie is worse than John McCain
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DeepETX_Aggie said:
And why is that? Let's see if you can make it sound bad
As a Republican Party member who takes their assistance and money, he shows he is incapable of supporting the party over himself if he feels he can drive clicks and donations by siding with the Dems.
This has been discussed AT LENGTH. You seem to have missed it more are trying to derail with some bizarre "gotchya".
Will be great to see a better representative for the people of eastern Kentucky and for the R agenda being led by Trump.
Libertarian scorecard giving libertarian a high grade? No way!!!
You think the KENTUCKY candidate who's gotten around 14 million from foreign lobbies compared to the guy who has received 0 is a better representative for the people of Kentucky??
I will concede that those from rural eastern districts tend to be low information voters on average.
That work for you?
My views on Massie have been consistent and completely clear.
That work for you?
My views on Massie have been consistent and completely clear.
By govtrack.us Massie Ranked the 15th most politically left compared to House Republicans
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/thomas_massie/412503/report-card/2024
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/thomas_massie/412503/report-card/2024
mhmm.flown-the-coop said:
Libertarian scorecard giving libertarian a high grade? No way!!!
Yea, thanks for proving my point. Did you read what you posted? Particularly the last bullet point?!
As has already been covered, if Thommie and Randie want to be libertarians, they should switch parties and be honest about who they are.
When they take R dollars and leverage the party machine by pretending to be R then serve as an L, that's a problem
As has already been covered, if Thommie and Randie want to be libertarians, they should switch parties and be honest about who they are.
When they take R dollars and leverage the party machine by pretending to be R then serve as an L, that's a problem
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Literally proved his point lol
Unless you want to make the argument that libertarian = conservative, which is not a serious argument
Unless you want to make the argument that libertarian = conservative, which is not a serious argument
Because libertarian views heavily overlap with conservative ones.flown-the-coop said:
Yea, thanks for proving my point. Did you read what you posted? Particularly the last bullet point?!
As has already been covered, if Thommie and Randie want to be libertarians, they should switch parties and be honest about who they are.
When they take R dollars and leverage the party machine by pretending to be R then serve as an L, that's a problem
cutting spending, opposing government regulations, and defending strict constitutional rights. Which one of these do conservatives not support?
And yes completely ignore the first sentence. "The Liberty Score from Conservative Review measures how closely a politician's votes align with conservative principles"
Conservative principles as defined by libertarians.
Thats the issue.
Thats the issue.
What's the source of your Massie infatuation?
Youre not a Kentuckian now are you? Why fighting so hard for him?
Youre not a Kentuckian now are you? Why fighting so hard for him?
Where does it say it's being defined by Libertarians or has your definition of conservative principles changed because of how the current administration is moving?flown-the-coop said:
Conservative principles as defined by libertarians.
Thats the issue.
flown-the-coop said:
Conservative principles as defined by libertarians.
Thats the issue.
What are your "conservative principles" (aside from licking Trump's boots)? Step up.
DeepETX_Aggie said:Where does it say it's being defined by Libertarians or has your definition of conservative principles changed because of how the current administration is moving?flown-the-coop said:
Conservative principles as defined by libertarians.
Thats the issue.
See prior posts. Answered already.
If you want to have a one on one conversation, then slide into my DMs.
But this back and forth has run its course as I have answered these questions over and over and over again. Happy reading!
TAMUallen said:
What's the source of your Massie infatuation?
Youre not a Kentuckian now are you? Why fighting so hard for him?
What is your source for your Trump infatuation? Do you believe Trump is infallible and incapable of fault?
Ag83 said:flown-the-coop said:
Conservative principles as defined by libertarians.
Thats the issue.
What are your "conservative principles" (aside from licking Trump's boots)? Step up.
It's past time for you to step down with your "step up" bull***** It's beyond dumb.
Answered previously.
Ag83 said:TAMUallen said:
What's the source of your Massie infatuation?
Youre not a Kentuckian now are you? Why fighting so hard for him?
What is your source for your Trump infatuation? Do you believe Trump is infallible and incapable of fault?
This thread is about Massie. Stop derailing.
Honestly I wasn't worried about him much until I saw how much Trump was going after a republican, and started to do my own research.TAMUallen said:
What's the source of your Massie infatuation?
Youre not a Kentuckian now are you? Why fighting so hard for him?
And it especially went up a notch after seeing how much energy and resources they are putting into a single Kentucky congressional district race to unseat another republican. Especially since Massie is standing on the same principles and beliefs that the people of his district voting him in for.
Why would I want a win for all the foreign lobby groups who are reportedly pumping up to 20 million to unseat him? Why is this so important to them? America first over everything, and if that offends you, you don't have America's best interest at heart and nothing else.
And now I ask the same question. Why are they fighting so hard to get rid of them if they're not a Kentuckian??
flown-the-coop said:Ag83 said:flown-the-coop said:
Conservative principles as defined by libertarians.
Thats the issue.
What are your "conservative principles" (aside from licking Trump's boots)? Step up.
It's past time for you to step down with your "step up" bull***** It's beyond dumb.
Answered previously.
Can't do it. Won't do it. Not surprised. If you have a link to your version of "conservative principles" I'd be happy to take a look at it (assuming it is not, as I suspect, Trump's Truth Social feed). But I am certainly not expecting much from you.
You shouldn't be calling anyone else's posts "dumb" either.
flown-the-coop said:Ag83 said:TAMUallen said:
What's the source of your Massie infatuation?
Youre not a Kentuckian now are you? Why fighting so hard for him?
What is your source for your Trump infatuation? Do you believe Trump is infallible and incapable of fault?
This thread is about Massie. Stop derailing.
And there it is - "you're derailing" since you can't respond rationally. No surprise there.
DeepETX_Aggie said:Honestly I wasn't worried about him much until I saw how much Trump was going after a republican, and started to do my own research.TAMUallen said:
What's the source of your Massie infatuation?
Youre not a Kentuckian now are you? Why fighting so hard for him?
And it especially went up a notch after seeing how much energy and resources they are putting into a single Kentucky congressional district race to unseat another republican. Especially since Massie is standing on the same principles and beliefs that the people of his district voting him in for.
Why would I want a win for all the foreign lobby groups who are reportedly pumping up to 20 million to unseat him? Why is this so important to them? America first over everything, and if that offends you, you don't have America's best interest at heart and nothing else.
And now I ask the same question. Why are they fighting so hard to get rid of them if they're not a Kentuckian??
Are there things Gallrein has said that show he's a worse candidate or is it that he's being supported to remove an incumbent who happens to be endorsed by liberals, code pink, al Jazeera, etc?
TAMUallen said:DeepETX_Aggie said:TAMUallen said:
What's the source of your Massie infatuation?
Youre not a Kentuckian now are you? Why fighting so hard for him?
Honestly I wasn't worried about him much until I saw how much Trump was going after a republican, and started to do my own research.
And it especially went up a notch after seeing how much energy and resources they are putting into a single Kentucky congressional district race to unseat another republican. Especially since Massie is standing on the same principles and beliefs that the people of his district voting him in for.
Why would I want a win for all the foreign lobby groups who are reportedly pumping up to 20 million to unseat him? Why is this so important to them? America first over everything, and if that offends you, you don't have America's best interest at heart and nothing else.
And now I ask the same question. Why are they fighting so hard to get rid of them if they're not a Kentuckian??
Are there things Gallrein has said that show he's a worse candidate or is it that he's being supported to remove an incumbent who happens to be endorsed by liberals, code pink, al Jazeera, etc?
When he hides in his basement and avoids debating during campaigns (can you say "Joe Biden 2020"?), it's kind of difficult to know his positions. What does he stand for that you support and Massie disagrees with?
Ag83 said:flown-the-coop said:Ag83 said:flown-the-coop said:
Conservative principles as defined by libertarians.
Thats the issue.
What are your "conservative principles" (aside from licking Trump's boots)? Step up.
It's past time for you to step down with your "step up" bull***** It's beyond dumb.
Answered previously.
Can't do it. Won't do it. Not surprised. If you have a link to your version of "conservative principles" I'd be happy to take a look at it (assuming it is not, as I suspect, Trump's Truth Social feed). But I am certainly not expecting much from you.
You shouldn't be calling anyone else's posts "dumb" either.
No, calling posters dumb is an issue. Calling a post dumb, particularly one that attempts to troll with "step up" dumbarsey is well within bounds.
You can click on my profile and posts on this thread.
You are the one seeking information, it's on you to go find it. Until then, happy to discuss content of this thread but not with your disrespectful demands and condescending posts.
flown-the-coop said:Ag83 said:flown-the-coop said:Ag83 said:flown-the-coop said:
Conservative principles as defined by libertarians.
Thats the issue.
What are your "conservative principles" (aside from licking Trump's boots)? Step up.
It's past time for you to step down with your "step up" bull***** It's beyond dumb.
Answered previously.
Can't do it. Won't do it. Not surprised. If you have a link to your version of "conservative principles" I'd be happy to take a look at it (assuming it is not, as I suspect, Trump's Truth Social feed). But I am certainly not expecting much from you.
You shouldn't be calling anyone else's posts "dumb" either.
No, calling posters dumb is an issue. Calling a post dumb, particularly one that attempts to troll with "step up" dumbarsey is well within bounds.
You can click on my profile and posts on this thread.
You are the one seeking information, it's on you to go find it. Until then, happy to discuss content of this thread but not with your disrespectful demands and condescending posts
Beyond laughable at this point. You cannot and will not defend your point other than to spout your Trump approved lines. Accuse people of "derailing", "take it to a different thread", "I already posted it so search for it yourself".
That's your response to that, nothing of substance? lol okay.TAMUallen said:DeepETX_Aggie said:Honestly I wasn't worried about him much until I saw how much Trump was going after a republican, and started to do my own research.TAMUallen said:
What's the source of your Massie infatuation?
Youre not a Kentuckian now are you? Why fighting so hard for him?
And it especially went up a notch after seeing how much energy and resources they are putting into a single Kentucky congressional district race to unseat another republican. Especially since Massie is standing on the same principles and beliefs that the people of his district voting him in for.
Why would I want a win for all the foreign lobby groups who are reportedly pumping up to 20 million to unseat him? Why is this so important to them? America first over everything, and if that offends you, you don't have America's best interest at heart and nothing else.
And now I ask the same question. Why are they fighting so hard to get rid of them if they're not a Kentuckian??
Are there things Gallrein has said that show he's a worse candidate or is it that he's being supported to remove an incumbent who happens to be endorsed by liberals, code pink, al Jazeera, etc?
The only reason you see liberals etc supporting Massie is because Trump went after him hard. That's just their TDS at work, that's white noise and doesn't matter. Because they don't agree with Massies political beliefs at all they just see another Trump enemy to get behind.
And folks like you fall for the clickbait emotional straw man arguments that he's endorsed by groups like that.
DeepETX_Aggie said:That's your response to that, nothing of substance? lol okay.TAMUallen said:DeepETX_Aggie said:Honestly I wasn't worried about him much until I saw how much Trump was going after a republican, and started to do my own research.TAMUallen said:
What's the source of your Massie infatuation?
Youre not a Kentuckian now are you? Why fighting so hard for him?
And it especially went up a notch after seeing how much energy and resources they are putting into a single Kentucky congressional district race to unseat another republican. Especially since Massie is standing on the same principles and beliefs that the people of his district voting him in for.
Why would I want a win for all the foreign lobby groups who are reportedly pumping up to 20 million to unseat him? Why is this so important to them? America first over everything, and if that offends you, you don't have America's best interest at heart and nothing else.
And now I ask the same question. Why are they fighting so hard to get rid of them if they're not a Kentuckian??
Are there things Gallrein has said that show he's a worse candidate or is it that he's being supported to remove an incumbent who happens to be endorsed by liberals, code pink, al Jazeera, etc?
The only reason you see liberals etc supporting Massie is because Trump went after him hard. That's just their TDS at work, that's white noise and doesn't matter. Because they don't agree with Massies political beliefs at all they just see another Trump enemy to get behind.
And folks like you fall for the clickbait emotional straw man arguments that he's endorsed by groups like that.
Thanks for the personal attacks!
After you said I have an infatuation for a guy who is endorsed by liberals, code pink, al Jazeera, etc. I can't say you fall for a straw man argument?
Give me a break lol
Give me a break lol
DeepETX_Aggie said:
After you said I have an infatuation for a guy who is endorsed by liberals, code pink, al Jazeera, etc. I can't say you fall for a straw man argument?
Give me a break lol
It's not your first time.
Kentucky voters need to wake up. Thomas Massie has voted AGAINST Republicans 73 TIMES siding with Democrats 22.3% of the time.
— Trumps Nephew (@ForgiatoBlow47) May 16, 2026
That’s nearly 1 out of every 4 votes spent undermining the Republican agenda from inside the party.
Republicans are sick of weak Republicans.
Primary… pic.twitter.com/28UakXvDiv
Bye bye Massie
That's not true at all, but continue to not bring any substance to the argument
DeepETX_Aggie said:
That's not true at all, but continue to not bring any substance to the argument
What are you saying is not true?
He hasn't sided with the democrats 22% of the time
DeepETX_Aggie said:
He hasn't sided with the democrats 22% of the time
Oh dang, facts. Theyre tough. In the house he has been the number one Republican to vote against Republicans.
Quote:
He has voted against a majority of Republicans on 73 occasions or 22.3% of the time in the 119th Congress and was just one of two Republicans to oppose the final passage of Trump's One Big Beautiful Bill Act.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/house-mavericks-defied-own-parties-more-than-anyone-else-2025
Opposing the republican majority doesn't mean he "sided with the democrats". They often vote no for different reasoning.
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