DeschutesAg said:

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Keyno said:

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lobopride said:

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I would have voted for Massie, but the problem with him is you either need 200 of him or 0. There isn't a happy in-between.

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No. You only need at least 1. Not to "change" anything. But to give the people some hope. At least we can have ONE politician not bought by foreign interests.

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Well said. The cult members in f16 can't comprehend this. The rest of us see it easily.

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DeepETX_Aggie said:

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DeepETX_Aggie said:

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I know it's hard for you to comprehend but I'm not on the left. I'm conservative

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Im Gipper said:

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DeepETX_Aggie said:

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I know it's hard for you to comprehend but I'm not on the left. I'm conservative

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Maybe, just maybe, its hard to comprehend because all of our posts on F16 are rabidly defending a congressman for voting with the Libs! You may be the Ghost of Ronald Reagan, but you have ZERO posting history to back up your claim of being a conservative!

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flown-the-coop said:

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Merely pointing out the Deep East Texas has not been historically conservative.

Your boy Massie now says Adelson was born in Israel, so he's had to correct himself on that. But then says Trump will have to reduce his ballroom because money she spent on his opponent.

If… big if he pulls the rabbit out today he's a worthless outcast moving forward.

Those supporting the R agenda want him to lose today.

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• strong Protestant/Bible Belt influence,
• rural and small-town culture,
• support for limited government and traditional social values,

flown-the-coop said:

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You seem to be unfamiliar with the historic political leanings of the deep south.

If you define conservative as liquor drinking baptist Klan members who vote for the likes of Robert Byrd then you may be on to something.

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flown-the-coop said:

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No. I will admit like many other areas it now trends more R, but that is a last 30 years. Outside of the major metropolitan areas it long trended more Dem and R leaning.

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Why is it so hard for people on the “right” to understand that if a “Republican” rep gets endorsements from people like AOC, Ro Khanna, Cenk Fatgur, Code Pink, and the New York Times, to just name a few, they probably are no longer serving Republicans’ best interests?

— Green Beret Nap Time (@GBNT1952) May 19, 2026

DeepETX_Aggie said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Merely pointing out the Deep East Texas has not been historically conservative.

Your boy Massie now says Adelson was born in Israel, so he's had to correct himself on that. But then says Trump will have to reduce his ballroom because money she spent on his opponent.

If… big if he pulls the rabbit out today he's a worthless outcast moving forward.

Those supporting the R agenda want him to lose today.

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From chat GPT.

Yes East Texas, especially "Deep East Texas" (the piney woods region near the Louisiana border), has historically been very conservative culturally and politically

Deep East Texas is often described as culturally closer to the Deep South than to places like Austin or West Texas.
Historically, the area had:

• strong Protestant/Bible Belt influence,
• rural and small-town culture,
• support for limited government and traditional social values,

Counties in East Texas today regularly vote heavily Republican, and local politicians often campaign explicitly on "East Texas conservative values."

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flown-the-coop said:

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I do know this. Others seem to have a hard time their R party is NOT currently built around libertarianism or primarily focused on extreme fiscal conservatism.

So maybe this exchange has helped you understand that.

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Quote:

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"I don't see how anybody can reasonably claim to be a member of a political party in good standing when you make it your business to try to derail the main agenda items of that party, which is exactly what Thomas Massie has done," said Tim Murtaugh, former communications director to Donald Trump and a senior campaign adviser to Gallrein.
He's also "stuck his finger in the eye" of Donald Trump and his White House, Murtaugh noted, and it is Donald Trump who "represents this party."
"He's a president who carried this district over Kamala Harris by 36 points in 2024, and Thomas Massie decides that he's bigger than that margin? I don't think so. This is very much Donald Trump's Republican party, not Thomas Massie's."

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Z3phyr said:

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You have to admit Trump's followers are more cult like if you are thinking Massie has cult like followers...

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Adam87inSA said:

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Massie and Paul take their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States seriously.

Nobody else does. In either party.

The rest of our government is harming the American people and fiscally raping future generations of taxpaying Americans. My sons and their children.

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SociallyConditionedAg said:

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DeepETX_Aggie said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Merely pointing out the Deep East Texas has not been historically conservative.

Your boy Massie now says Adelson was born in Israel, so he's had to correct himself on that. But then says Trump will have to reduce his ballroom because money she spent on his opponent.

If… big if he pulls the rabbit out today he's a worthless outcast moving forward.

Those supporting the R agenda want him to lose today.

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From chat GPT.

Yes East Texas, especially "Deep East Texas" (the piney woods region near the Louisiana border), has historically been very conservative culturally and politically

Deep East Texas is often described as culturally closer to the Deep South than to places like Austin or West Texas.
Historically, the area had:

• strong Protestant/Bible Belt influence,
• rural and small-town culture,
• support for limited government and traditional social values,

Counties in East Texas today regularly vote heavily Republican, and local politicians often campaign explicitly on "East Texas conservative values."

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Sadly, they're mostly RINOs and crooks like Nichols, Phelan, and now Ray Callas. They vote red, but not really conservative.

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zoneag said:

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I guess MAGA is now Larry Loomer, Ben Shapiro, and Lindsay Graham. All for endless war, warrantless spying, and being run by the Epstein class. Trashing actual conservatives that put America first. Weird.

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DeepETX_Aggie said:

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zoneag said:

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I guess MAGA is now Larry Loomer, Ben Shapiro, and Lindsay Graham. All for endless war, warrantless spying, and being run by the Epstein class. Trashing actual conservatives that put America first. Weird.

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DeepETX_Aggie said:

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SociallyConditionedAg said:

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DeepETX_Aggie said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Merely pointing out the Deep East Texas has not been historically conservative.

Your boy Massie now says Adelson was born in Israel, so he's had to correct himself on that. But then says Trump will have to reduce his ballroom because money she spent on his opponent.

If… big if he pulls the rabbit out today he's a worthless outcast moving forward.

Those supporting the R agenda want him to lose today.

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From chat GPT.

Yes East Texas, especially "Deep East Texas" (the piney woods region near the Louisiana border), has historically been very conservative culturally and politically

Deep East Texas is often described as culturally closer to the Deep South than to places like Austin or West Texas.
Historically, the area had:

• strong Protestant/Bible Belt influence,
• rural and small-town culture,
• support for limited government and traditional social values,

Counties in East Texas today regularly vote heavily Republican, and local politicians often campaign explicitly on "East Texas conservative values."

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Sadly, they're mostly RINOs and crooks like Nichols, Phelan, and now Ray Callas. They vote red, but not really conservative.

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I didn't mention a single politician, just the historical political beliefs of East Texas.

Most republicans are scared now to actually vote across the board conservative, because what is happening to Massie will happen to them. Fall in line or be thrown out.

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flown-the-coop said:

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DeepETX_Aggie said:

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zoneag said:

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I guess MAGA is now Larry Loomer, Ben Shapiro, and Lindsay Graham. All for endless war, warrantless spying, and being run by the Epstein class. Trashing actual conservatives that put America first. Weird.

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Libertarian scores.

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SociallyConditionedAg said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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DeepETX_Aggie said:

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zoneag said:

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I guess MAGA is now Larry Loomer, Ben Shapiro, and Lindsay Graham. All for endless war, warrantless spying, and being run by the Epstein class. Trashing actual conservatives that put America first. Weird.

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Libertarian scores.

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Is there a less libertarian score where Massie is any less of a conservative and Graham is any less of a liberal?

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Massie “represents” one of the reddest districts in America but votes with Jeffries, Schumer and Pelosi on nearly all of the most consequential votes.

— Stephen Miller (@StephenM) May 19, 2026

Kentucky election day shenanigans;
Massie campaign sends out to KY 4 voters via text a 2022 Trump
statement making it look like the president supports Massie today where he clearly supports Gallrein

Text ends with "Paid for by Thomas Massie for Congress

Reply STOP to opt-out" pic.twitter.com/cJwFB75Dkk

— ZitoSalena (@ZitoSalena) May 19, 2026