Massie is worse than John McCain

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zoneag
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I guess MAGA is now Larry Loomer, Ben Shapiro, and Lindsay Graham. All for endless war, warrantless spying, and being run by the Epstein class. Trashing actual conservatives that put America first. Weird.
lobopride
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I would have voted for Massie, but the problem with him is you either need 200 of him or 0. There isn't a happy in-between.
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There hasnt been much discussion of Loomer and Massie's phone plus activities with Boebert because it isn't PG rated but let's not act like Massie isn't taking a hit there too.

The leaked texts, if true, are almost as hilarious as some of my interactions today and do not paint Massie as Mr Wonderful
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KentK93 said:

Massie seems to like illegal immigration:


And I really used to like Stephen Miller. Shame.
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If Massie were replaced by a democrat what would be different voting wise?

Can you answer that?
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Teslag said:

If Massie were replaced by a democrat what would be different voting wise?

Can you answer that?
That he votes +90% of the time with republicans and a Democrat would vote no regardless.
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Per Grok. With 2 parties I am guessing a Dim in office means the ~80% against DJT IF you get another Fetterman which is highly unlikely, so probably >90% against.

Headhunting your own party sucks imo, especially when DJT runs with little/no opposition, but throw out all logic and your spine and grab a pitchfork I guess.



Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY) votes with President Trump and the Republican Party the vast majority of the time typically around 90%+ on party-line votes but he's a frequent dissenter on high-profile issues like spending/deficits, foreign policy/wars, surveillance, and certain Trump priorities.
Voting with Trump
  • Massie's own claim: He states he votes with Trump 91% of the time, with the 9% of disagreements centering on issues like "covering up for pedophiles" (e.g., pushing for full Epstein files release), "bankrupting the country" (opposition to large spending bills), or "starting another war" (e.g., opposition to unauthorized military action in Iran).
  • Specific data points:
    • In one 2025 analysis of votes where Trump's position was clear, Massie aligned ~84% of the time (32 out of 38 votes), making him one of the more frequent Republican dissenters alongside Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick.
    • CQ Roll Call reported 77.6% support for Trump's positions in a prior year (one of the lower rates among House Republicans).
  • Disagreements often involve fiscal conservatism (e.g., voting against Trump's "One Big Beautiful Bill Act" over deficit concerns, where he was one of only two Republicans to oppose it) and foreign entanglements.
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Facts don't care about their feelings.
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[We're not going to let this Massie thread derail into an anti-Israel conversation -- Staff]
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I'm sure it has already been stated but I didn't have time to read all 27 pages but when Joy ****ing Behar of all people wants you to win that's a real problem.

Massie's time is up. Adios, mofo.
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Laura Loomer gets a bad rap on here and I don't even know that much about her past and I'm sure she's also BSC but this is a bridge too far as if we don't all have boner phones.

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lobopride said:

I would have voted for Massie, but the problem with him is you either need 200 of him or 0. There isn't a happy in-between.

No. You only need at least 1. Not to "change" anything. But to give the people some hope. At least we can have ONE politician not bought by foreign interests.

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Keyno said:

lobopride said:

I would have voted for Massie, but the problem with him is you either need 200 of him or 0. There isn't a happy in-between.

No. You only need at least 1. Not to "change" anything. But to give the people some hope. At least we can have ONE politician not bought by foreign interests.



Lulz. He won't even disclose who is paying him but we've all seen the far left wing lunatic roster throwing their support behind him. Give it a rest. He's burnt toast.

I only wish I'd have bought low and sold high:

https://kalshi.com/markets/kxky4r/kentucky-4-republican-primary/kxky4r-26
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johnnyblaze36 said:

Keyno said:

lobopride said:

I would have voted for Massie, but the problem with him is you either need 200 of him or 0. There isn't a happy in-between.

No. You only need at least 1. Not to "change" anything. But to give the people some hope. At least we can have ONE politician not bought by foreign interests.



Lulz. He won't even disclose who is paying him but we've all seen the far left wing lunatic roster throwing their support behind him. Give it a rest. He's burnt toast.

I only wish I'd have bought low and sold high:

https://kalshi.com/markets/kxky4r/kentucky-4-republican-primary/kxky4r-26

It's a good case study in how foreign interest money affects our politics. We saw the same thing in 2024 when some Democrats went against the foreign lobby (previously the most expensive primary before this Kentucky thing)

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Sounds great. Where are his disclosures? I'd be happy to review them and potentially adjust my stance.
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Doesn't matter if he's not bought and paid for. He committed the egregious sin of falling out of line.
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Keyno
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AggieVictor10 said:

Doesn't matter if he's not bought and paid for. He committed the egregious sin of falling out of line.

Which is why we are seeing record setting money dropping into (checks notes) a Kentucky House Rep primary
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Keyno said:

AggieVictor10 said:

Doesn't matter if he's not bought and paid for. He committed the egregious sin of falling out of line.

Which is why we are seeing record setting money dropping into (checks notes) a Kentucky House Rep primary

Welcome to politics where your entire agenda that the people across America voted for can get completely wrecked by one or two total losers on razor thin House margins.

The Republican party will never get a vote for any legislation passed without them. Hence the need for them to be ousted immediately.

Nobody on this entire board, including myself, could have ever imagined a guy with vegetable brain like John Fetterman, would end up being the only voice of reason in that entire party and even more so than the set of granstanding clowns in Georgia and Kentucky (and Colorado for that matter).

Hate Trump all you want, but that's the reality and these people gotta go.

Fetterman will flip over, or vote with the America First/MAGA agenda eventually imo (yes I realize he's in the Senate...and we should just nuke the filibuster already).

Massie will never again vote for anything Trump puts forward after this even if his boner phone depended on it.

You know, because he's got true principles and stuff, and didn't take that jooory money. Dude's a clown and it's time to put him out to his literal pasture.
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nortex97
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Knowles, as with Hombre, make valid points imho.
Ellis Wyatt
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They're treating him like they treated Liz Cheney and that limp-wristed dude who shredded the Constitution for Stalinist show trials after J6. He's one of them. And there are "conservatives" still defending him.
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DeepETX_Aggie said:

[We're not going to let this Massie thread derail into an anti-Israel conversation -- Staff]
Hard to explain why Millions are being poured into this race without mentioning Israel staff…..
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Did the state of Israel endorse or make a campaign donation? I could see that being relevant. Continuing to infer Israeli influence in American politics because the donor has been identified in some manner as a Jew (ethnic? Religious? Nationality?).

Continuing to infer influence that is not there should be discussed elsewhere. That's all that is being asked.
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flown-the-coop said:

Did the state of Israel endorse or make a campaign donation? I could see that being relevant. Continuing to infer Israeli influence in American politics because the donor has been identified in some manner as a Jew (ethnic? Religious? Nationality?).

Continuing to infer influence that is not there should be discussed elsewhere. That's all that is being asked.
All I did was post a video of Trump Infering that Miriam Adelson (one of the billionaires behind the millions being dumped in this race) who is a dual citizen might like that other country more. Thats definitely relevant to the topic at hand.
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The one Massie called a Palestinian? You're right, his antisemitic remarks make sense when you consider an American Jew contributed to his opponent.

I see what you mean now.
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flown-the-coop said:

The one Massie called a Palestinian? You're right, his antisemitic remarks make sense when you consider an American Jew contributed to his opponent.

I see what you mean now.
Ah yes ignore the substance of everything that I just said. And go back to an interview where the person interviewing Massie says where she was born.

Can't even have a logical debate on these topics
flown-the-coop
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He mocked it, laughed about it and given the current environment of pro Palestinian movements the implications were obvious. It was not made in the context of the geographic label given to it under the Ottoman then British empires.
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So can I get your opinion on foreign interference in US Elections. Do you think it's right or wrong? (Yes or no question)
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DeepETX_Aggie said:

So can I get your opinion on foreign interference in US Elections. Do you think it's right or wrong? (Yes or no question)

Believe Adelson is an American, no? Does she not own the mavericks? Has other US business interests?

Are you suggesting the Knesset supporting Massies opponent?
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flown-the-coop said:

DeepETX_Aggie said:

So can I get your opinion on foreign interference in US Elections. Do you think it's right or wrong? (Yes or no question)

Believe Adelson is an American, no? Does she not own the mavericks? Has other US business interests?

Are you suggesting the Knesset supporting Massies opponent?
We can disagree that if there is or isn't in this race.

I'm just asking a general question. Yes or no plz
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DeepETX_Aggie said:

flown-the-coop said:

DeepETX_Aggie said:

So can I get your opinion on foreign interference in US Elections. Do you think it's right or wrong? (Yes or no question)

Believe Adelson is an American, no? Does she not own the mavericks? Has other US business interests?

Are you suggesting the Knesset supporting Massies opponent?
We can disagree that if there is or isn't in this race.

I'm just asking a general question. Yes or no plz

Well congressman, I take exception to the nature of the question as I do not believe your inquiry is genuine in nature.

Do I believe campaign contributions should follow the established laws? Yes. Do I believe those laws are designed to limit / prohibit the influence of foreign actors? Yes. Do i believe those rules are adequate and being followed. Absolutely not. Do I believe Israel is unique in its attempt to influence American politics? Nope.

Do i believe even a teency bit that Israel or people claiming to only have Israeli interests at heart are working to fund Massies opponent because of Epstein and / or Iran? Thats fantastically ******ed.
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Keyno said:

lobopride said:

I would have voted for Massie, but the problem with him is you either need 200 of him or 0. There isn't a happy in-between.

No. You only need at least 1. Not to "change" anything. But to give the people some hope. At least we can have ONE politician not bought by foreign interests.
Well said. The cult members in f16 can't comprehend this. The rest of us see it easily.
nortex97
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Jeff Yass, a zionist Jewish billionaire American hedge fund manager, is Massie's largest donor. He's widely detested among the anti-Israel/leftist/progressive crowd for how he spends his money.

Just wanted to point that out for reference, not to get into the 'all others are bought/paid for by foreigners' or various anti-semitic charges/claims. My rationale for hoping Massie loses his primary race is that I don't think he is a good Republican PARTY US Representative, not his various claims about Aipac etc.
Ellis Wyatt
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So this is an Israel thread?

Massie has been exposed. Hurling around ridiculous accusations will not change that. Dog whistles won't cut it.
 
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