Massie is worse than John McCain

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7:59a, 5/20/26
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I don't really like to participate in the Pro-Wrestling theatre side of politics like this thread, but when you have Ro Khanna and Brian Krassenstein in a tizzy that Massie didn't win, that's a pretty good sign that he needed to go.
i'm sorry i dont laugh at the right times.
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8:04a, 5/20/26
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End of day did Massie serve his constituents in his district? Seems like he didnt and they booted him. Maybe next time dont get sucked up in a rabbit hole in DC and forget you actually represent a block of voters.
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In reply to TX04Aggie • 8:11a, 5/20/26
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He literally ran against Trump in a district that just 2 years ago voted 90% for him (among GOP voters). Anyone surprised by the result probably should consider their biases/rationalizations heading into Tuesday evening imho.

I understand/respect plenty of criticisms of Trump, but he is an alpha predator who once he decides to identify and go after an enemy is not to be dismissed, imho.
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8:11a, 5/20/26
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Massie knocks Trump ballroom after primary loss: 'Looks like the Roman Empire


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"And it looks like … architecture from the Roman Empire," he continued. "I see a few analogies there, and people are just trying to make ends meet."


Hey einstein, you have never seen the Supreme Court building? OR almost every other government building on the mall?

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5886685-thomas-massie-donald-trump-ballroom-kentucky-primary-loss/
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In reply to doubledog • 8:14a, 5/20/26
literally the Roman Empire under Trump!!

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In reply to Zachary Klement • 8:16a, 5/20/26
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Zachary Klement said:

Micro donations are a hallmark of DNC international (and illegal) influence. This is not the win you think it is. It's more sign he's been bought by the DNC machine.
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In reply to MJ20/20 • 8:18a, 5/20/26
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MJ20/20 said:


Sure, and you would be happy in 1930's Germany.

Who's better?
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In reply to flown-the-coop • 8:33a, 5/20/26
flown-the-coop said:
Zachary Klement said:

Micro donations are a hallmark of DNC international (and illegal) influence. This is not the win you think it is. It's more sign he's been bought by the DNC machine.


So who bought his opponent? You seem concerned about donations? We've got massive money behind his opponent, why? Starts with a P ends in edophile.
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In reply to ETFan • 8:38a, 5/20/26
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ETFan said:
flown-the-coop said:
Zachary Klement said:

Micro donations are a hallmark of DNC international (and illegal) influence. This is not the win you think it is. It's more sign he's been bought by the DNC machine.


So who bought his opponent? You seem concerned about donations? We've got massive money behind his opponent, why? Starts with a P ends in edophile.

Surprised you did not type that it stars with A ends in drenchrome.
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In reply to ETFan • 8:38a, 5/20/26
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ETFan said:
flown-the-coop said:
Zachary Klement said:

Micro donations are a hallmark of DNC international (and illegal) influence. This is not the win you think it is. It's more sign he's been bought by the DNC machine.


So who bought his opponent? You seem concerned about donations? We've got massive money behind his opponent, why? Starts with a P ends in edophile.

Pedophiles donated to his campaign? Which ones? Joe and Hunter Biden? Cause this cause they're your family doesn't make it not pedophilia.

Curious about these pedophile PACs. Can you provide links?

Also, did you know who Massie was before clicking on this thread?
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In reply to flown-the-coop • 8:41a, 5/20/26
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Curious about these pedophile PACs. Can you provide links?

John Weaver says "Here!"

https://lincolnproject.us/
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In reply to We fixed the keg • 8:42a, 5/20/26
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We fixed the keg said:
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Curious about these pedophile PACs. Can you provide links?

John Weaver says "Here!"

https://lincolnproject.us/

Do they still meet at Paulie Pelosi's Pizza Parlor?
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Do they still meet at Paulie Pelosi's Pizza Parlor?

Sadly no, they got the ban "hammer"

Good night folks, try the veal and tip your waitress.
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In reply to flown-the-coop • 8:46a, 5/20/26
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They are such a powerful organization they office out of a coworking spot on lower Greenville in Dallas.
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In reply to Keyno • 8:57a, 5/20/26
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Keyno said:
TAMUallen said:
Keyno said:
TAMUallen said:
Keyno said:
TAMUallen said:

See this tweet is obfuscating. AIPAC, Miriam Adelson, and the Republican Jewish Coalition pumped money to defeat Massey because Massey would not support American money to Israel and he wouldn't support the US wars on behalf of Israel. Also the Epstein thing.

Do these circumstances apply to those other elections this tweet is referring to?


Massey?

I think your script is broken

See this tweet is obfuscating. AIPAC, Miriam Adelson, and the Republican Jewish Coalition pumped money to defeat Massie because Massie would not support American money to Israel and he wouldn't support the US wars on behalf of Israel. Also the Epstein thing.

Do these circumstances apply to those other elections this tweet is referring to?


I was slightly joking but the new post is the same as old with a necessary edit

I'm looking back for other "autocorrect" edits and I'm not seeing it happen. I do see the same exact "AIPAC, Miriam Adelson, and the Republican Jewish Coalition" on repeat.

That's beyond bizarre and obsessive. That's to a compulsive level. Just a bizarre coincidence though!

Bizarre and obsessive? They are the organizations/person which pumped tens of millions into Massie's opponent campaign. I am bizarre and obsessive about stating factual information I guess

Didn't Massie out raise his opponent in donations? Where did all his donations come from, and, by your logic, won't he be controlled by them? Maybe he is already and the people in his district saw through it. Hmm!
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In reply to nortex97 • 8:59a, 5/20/26
nortex97 said:
He literally ran against Trump in a district that just 2 years ago voted 90% for him (among GOP voters). Anyone surprised by the result probably should consider their biases/rationalizations heading into Tuesday evening imho.

I understand/respect plenty of criticisms of Trump, but he is an alpha predator who once he decides to identify and go after an enemy is not to be dismissed, imho.
Those are good points.

Massie knew how popular and powerful Trump is among the Republican base. However, Massie thought a majority of Republicans in his district would continue to support himself because he opposed Trump's trillion dollar deficits, and Trump's ruinous tariffs, and Trump's starting of another Middle East foreign war, and Trump's disgusting protecting of pedophiles.

Before Tuesday, Massie's assumptions seemed rational. Now those assumptions have been proven false.

The harsh lesson Trump has handed down the past 4 weeks to Republican incumbents, Republican candidates, and Republican Party members is stark, clear, and unmistakeable.
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In reply to DeschutesAg • 9:01a, 5/20/26
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nortex97 said:
He literally ran against Trump in a district that just 2 years ago voted 90% for him (among GOP voters). Anyone surprised by the result probably should consider their biases/rationalizations heading into Tuesday evening imho.

I understand/respect plenty of criticisms of Trump, but he is an alpha predator who once he decides to identify and go after an enemy is not to be dismissed, imho.

Those are good points.

Massie knew how popular and powerful Trump is among the Republican base. However, Massie thought a majority of Republicans in his district would continue to support himself because he opposed Trump's trillion dollar deficits, and Trump's ruinous tariffs, and Trump's starting of another Middle East foreign war, and Trump's disgusting protecting of pedophiles.

Before Tuesday, Massie's assumptions seemed rational. Now those assumptions have been proven false.

The harsh lesson Trump has handed down the past 4 weeks to Republican incumbents, Republican candidates, and Republican Party members is stark, clear, and unmistakeable.


Or maybe the just didn't want a Republican Representative that seemed more aligned with Democrats than Republicans.
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In reply to DeschutesAg • 9:05a, 5/20/26
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DeschutesAg said:
nortex97 said:
He literally ran against Trump in a district that just 2 years ago voted 90% for him (among GOP voters). Anyone surprised by the result probably should consider their biases/rationalizations heading into Tuesday evening imho.

I understand/respect plenty of criticisms of Trump, but he is an alpha predator who once he decides to identify and go after an enemy is not to be dismissed, imho.
Those are good points.

Massie knew how popular and powerful Trump is among the Republican base. However, Massie thought a majority of Republicans in his district would continue to support himself because he opposed Trump's trillion dollar deficits, and Trump's ruinous tariffs, and Trump's starting of another Middle East foreign war, and Trump's disgusting protecting of pedophiles.

Before Tuesday, Massie's assumptions seemed rational. Now those assumptions have been proven false.

The harsh lesson Trump has handed down the past 4 weeks to Republican incumbents, Republican candidates, and Republican Party members is stark, clear, and unmistakeable.


Why did it take so long to learn the lesson? He's been the leader of the majority movement in America for a decade.

And it is about releasing the Epstein files (DONE), ending 47 year wars (IN PROGRESS), cutting spending (DOGE, Vance v FWA), and an effective international race policy that will benefit these United States for generations.

I remain baffled why people need to be taught the lessons of how wonderful Trump is. But I am here to do my part o shutdown lies like "protecting pedophiles" which is just more folks projecting on others what they themselves are guilty of.
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In reply to ts5641 • 9:09a, 5/20/26
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ts5641 said:
TAMUallen said:
Keyno said:
TAMUallen said:
Keyno said:
TAMUallen said:
Keyno said:
TAMUallen said:
Keyno said:
TAMUallen said:
Keyno said:
TAMUallen said:
Keyno said:
TAMUallen said:

See this tweet is obfuscating. AIPAC, Miriam Adelson, and the Republican Jewish Coalition pumped money to defeat Massey because Massey would not support American money to Israel and he wouldn't support the US wars on behalf of Israel. Also the Epstein thing.

Do these circumstances apply to those other elections this tweet is referring to?


Massey?

I think your script is broken

See this tweet is obfuscating. AIPAC, Miriam Adelson, and the Republican Jewish Coalition pumped money to defeat Massie because Massie would not support American money to Israel and he wouldn't support the US wars on behalf of Israel. Also the Epstein thing.

Do these circumstances apply to those other elections this tweet is referring to?


I was slightly joking but the new post is the same as old with a necessary edit

I'm looking back for other "autocorrect" edits and I'm not seeing it happen. I do see the same exact "AIPAC, Miriam Adelson, and the Republican Jewish Coalition" on repeat.

That's beyond bizarre and obsessive. That's to a compulsive level. Just a bizarre coincidence though!

Bizarre and obsessive? They are the organizations/person which pumped tens of millions into Massie's opponent campaign. I am bizarre and obsessive about stating factual information I guess


And you have them saved exactly like that to copy/paste and or use as if it's a mandatory directive?


Im not doubting some of what you're stating about yourself.

I mean what even is your rebuttal? You are criticizing me for stating factual information?


If I was surprisingly only posting on very specific threads while repeating copy/pasted info I'd expect some criticism. It's a little off to me but we are all different in our own ways! Hope you get some sleep too.

I am sorry you have a problem with rebutting factual information. I do realize if you are a trump/GOP/israel shill, it can be tough. Maybe you can do it after some good sleep


Enjoy the new representative! He will still be replacing Massie when I get the blessing to nap.

The insults of trump/gop arent bad and neither is Israel but it is way off. Just because I come to the defense of Israelis and Jewish people doesn't mean I am a shill for them.

It's not tough winning against this hatred for winning either!

Do you also note how I had been nice despite our disagreement but you weren't? Strange huh?

Yes you are a nice guy. AIPAC, Miriam Adelson, and the Republican Jewish Coalition pumped money to defeat Massie because Massie would not support American money to Israel and he wouldn't support the US wars on behalf of Israel. Also the Epstein thing.


Bruhhh, you've said that before. I think you're broken. Not even sure youre human. Give it a rest!


There's definitely something interesting going on with MAGA right now. It seems for the first time Rino Republicans are actually suffering consequences for not governing how they campaign.

People were so excited that we finally had Trump back with a big win and control of both houses of Congress. And then we still couldn't get anything done, and it became real obvious who the people holding it up were. Rs just aren't going to tolerate folks who run as conservatives and then join the Ds to stop anything conservative from passing anymore. We see the Ds voting as a single unified block on everything they do, and we are going to start demanding that of Rs too or they will be replaced with somebody who will.
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In reply to AgLiving06 • 9:11a, 5/20/26
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Massie made it a referendum alright, but I will defer to Scott here as he is more eloquent than I am.
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9:30a, 5/20/26
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Oh boy

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In reply to flown-the-coop • 9:37a, 5/20/26
flown-the-coop said:
DeschutesAg said:
nortex97 said:
He literally ran against Trump in a district that just 2 years ago voted 90% for him (among GOP voters). Anyone surprised by the result probably should consider their biases/rationalizations heading into Tuesday evening imho.

I understand/respect plenty of criticisms of Trump, but he is an alpha predator who once he decides to identify and go after an enemy is not to be dismissed, imho.
Those are good points.

Massie knew how popular and powerful Trump is among the Republican base. However, Massie thought a majority of Republicans in his district would continue to support himself because he opposed Trump's trillion dollar deficits, and Trump's ruinous tariffs, and Trump's starting of another Middle East foreign war, and Trump's disgusting protecting of pedophiles.

Before Tuesday, Massie's assumptions seemed rational. Now those assumptions have been proven false.

The harsh lesson Trump has handed down the past 4 weeks to Republican incumbents, Republican candidates, and Republican Party members is stark, clear, and unmistakeable.
Why did it take so long to learn the lesson?
Trump Republicanism is radically different from Reagan - Bush - Cheney - McCain Republicanism.

The rules of Trump Republicanism are different. The values and principles of Trump Republicanism are very different.

And although that has been obvious for the past several years, it still takes time for people to understand it and accept it.

A lot more Rs understand it now than did 4 weeks ago.
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In reply to DeschutesAg • 9:41a, 5/20/26
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DeschutesAg said:
Trump Republicanism is radically different from Reagan - Bush - Cheney - McCain Republicanism.

The rules of Trump Republicanism are different. The values and principles of Trump Republicanism are very different.

And although that has been obvious for the past several years, it still takes time for people to understand it and accept it.

A lot more Rs understand it now than did 4 weeks ago.


Good. Glad people are finally coming around that 40 years of weak kneed decorum first "gentlemanly" Rs who oft caucused with the enemy under the name of "bipartisanship" have had their asses completely handed to them by the evil DNC machine to the point we are staring down a national divorce and experiencing routine assassination attempts just to try and get back to "normal".

It's very good what people are learning and I will again ask why it took so frickin long?
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9:50a, 5/20/26
the Islamic Republic lost their best "RINO" Congressman last night.

what a shame. NIAC literally supports the Mullahs in Teheran. and you can see Commie Ro Khanna from California who is Massie's best friend in Congress.

or was.

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In reply to nortex97 • 9:52a, 5/20/26
nortex97 said:
Massie made it a referendum alright, but I will defer to Scott here as he is more eloquent than I am.

Just like I said- the GOP partisan shills are going to gaslight everyone into thinking this was about Massie going against Trump and totally memory hole that fact that it was the israel lobby which funded Gallrein.
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In reply to flown-the-coop • 9:55a, 5/20/26
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flown-the-coop said:
DeschutesAg said:
Trump Republicanism is radically different from Reagan - Bush - Cheney - McCain Republicanism.

The rules of Trump Republicanism are different. The values and principles of Trump Republicanism are very different.

And although that has been obvious for the past several years, it still takes time for people to understand it and accept it.

A lot more Rs understand it now than did 4 weeks ago.


Good. Glad people are finally coming around that 40 years of weak kneed decorum first "gentlemanly" Rs who oft caucused with the enemy under the name of "bipartisanship" have had their asses completely handed to them by the evil DNC machine to the point we are staring down a national divorce and experiencing routine assassination attempts just to try and get back to "normal".

It's very good what people are learning and I will again ask why it took so frickin long?


Ironically, it took a life long Dem to teach the Republicans to finally fight like Democrats.
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In reply to Keyno • 10:04a, 5/20/26
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Keyno said:
nortex97 said:
Massie made it a referendum alright, but I will defer to Scott here as he is more eloquent than I am.

Just like I said- the GOP partisan shills are going to gaslight everyone into thinking this was about Massie going against Trump and totally memory hole that fact that it was the israel lobby which funded Gallrein.


That doesn't really make any sense. It was very clear Massie had multiple issues with Trump, several having nothing to do with Israel and the conflict with Iran.

What % of Gallreins campaign was funded by this so-called "Israel lobby".
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In reply to flown-the-coop • 10:05a, 5/20/26
flown-the-coop said:
DeschutesAg said:
Trump Republicanism is radically different from Reagan - Bush - Cheney - McCain Republicanism.

The rules of Trump Republicanism are different. The values and principles of Trump Republicanism are very different.

And although that has been obvious for the past several years, it still takes time for people to understand it and accept it.

A lot more Rs understand it now than did 4 weeks ago.


Good. Glad people are finally coming around that 40 years of weak kneed decorum first "gentlemanly" Rs who oft caucused with the enemy under the name of "bipartisanship" have had their asses completely handed to them by the evil DNC machine to the point we are staring down a national divorce and experiencing routine assassination attempts just to try and get back to "normal".

It's very good what people are learning and I will again ask why it took so frickin long?
Not everyone in this nation is willing to accede to bending a knee to Trumpism and be a subservient coward, turn a blind eye to lying and unlawful abuse of power and corruption, and have no conscience and no principles. Yet that is the price one must pay to be a loyal Trump Republican.
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In reply to policywonk98 • 10:09a, 5/20/26
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policywonk98 said:
Keyno said:
nortex97 said:
Massie made it a referendum alright, but I will defer to Scott here as he is more eloquent than I am.

Just like I said- the GOP partisan shills are going to gaslight everyone into thinking this was about Massie going against Trump and totally memory hole that fact that it was the israel lobby which funded Gallrein.


That doesn't really make any sense. It was very clear Massie had multiple issues with Trump, several having nothing to do with Israel and the conflict with Iran.

What % of Gallreins campaign was funded by this so-called "Israel lobby".

Quote:
    The Republican Jewish Coalition has spent $4 million on ads supporting Gallrein, with AIPAC super PAC United Democracy Project spending another $2.6 million, according to AdImpact.

https://www.axios.com/2026/05/11/thomas-massie-ed-gallrein-kentucky-aipac-trump

Other sites report $10-11 mil from pro-Israel groups.
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What is the better strategy to defeat the left?
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In reply to DeschutesAg • 10:33a, 5/20/26
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DeschutesAg said:
flown-the-coop said:
DeschutesAg said:
Trump Republicanism is radically different from Reagan - Bush - Cheney - McCain Republicanism.

The rules of Trump Republicanism are different. The values and principles of Trump Republicanism are very different.

And although that has been obvious for the past several years, it still takes time for people to understand it and accept it.

A lot more Rs understand it now than did 4 weeks ago.


Good. Glad people are finally coming around that 40 years of weak kneed decorum first "gentlemanly" Rs who oft caucused with the enemy under the name of "bipartisanship" have had their asses completely handed to them by the evil DNC machine to the point we are staring down a national divorce and experiencing routine assassination attempts just to try and get back to "normal".

It's very good what people are learning and I will again ask why it took so frickin long?

Not everyone in this nation is willing to accede to bending a knee to Trumpism and be a subservient coward, turn a blind eye to lying and unlawful abuse of power and corruption, and have no conscience and no principles. Yet that is the price one must pay to be a loyal Trump Republican.


Way to reduce fully half the country to cardboard cutout politcal caricatures to flatter your view of your own nobility.
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In reply to policywonk98 • 10:35a, 5/20/26
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policywonk98 said:
Keyno said:
nortex97 said:
too?Massie made it a referendum alright, but I will defer to Scott here as he is more eloquent than I am.

Just like I said- the GOP partisan shills are going to gaslight everyone into thinking this was about Massie going against Trump and totally memory hole that fact that it was the israel lobby which funded Gallrein.


That doesn't really make any sense. It was very clear Massie had multiple issues with Trump, several having nothing to do with Israel and the conflict with Iran.

What % of Gallreins campaign was funded by this so-called "Israel lobby".


All of those state senators from Indiana and the sitting US Senator from LA......was that THE JOOOOOOOOOOS (TM), too?
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In reply to DeschutesAg • 10:35a, 5/20/26
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DeschutesAg said:
Not everyone in this nation is willing to accede to bending a knee to Trumpism and be a subservient coward, turn a blind eye to lying and unlawful abuse of power and corruption, and have no conscience and no principles. Yet that is the price one must pay to be a loyal Trump Republican.

So Orange Man Bad / Evil then?

Excellent analysis of Trump.

I choose to support Trump because I like what he has done and is doing for this Country and the world.

All you can do is lob tired insults at him and those who support him.

Try something new for a change.
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Squadron7 said:
policywonk98 said:
Keyno said:
nortex97 said:
too?Massie made it a referendum alright, but I will defer to Scott here as he is more eloquent than I am.

Just like I said- the GOP partisan shills are going to gaslight everyone into thinking this was about Massie going against Trump and totally memory hole that fact that it was the israel lobby which funded Gallrein.


That doesn't really make any sense. It was very clear Massie had multiple issues with Trump, several having nothing to do with Israel and the conflict with Iran.

What % of Gallreins campaign was funded by this so-called "Israel lobby".


All of those state senators from Indiana and the sitting US Senator from LA......was that THE JOOOOOOOOOOS (TM), too?

When its time to blame the Jews, antisemitism requires no reason or logic.
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DeschutesAg said:
flown-the-coop said:
DeschutesAg said:
Trump Republicanism is radically different from Reagan - Bush - Cheney - McCain Republicanism.

The rules of Trump Republicanism are different. The values and principles of Trump Republicanism are very different.

And although that has been obvious for the past several years, it still takes time for people to understand it and accept it.

A lot more Rs understand it now than did 4 weeks ago.


Good. Glad people are finally coming around that 40 years of weak kneed decorum first "gentlemanly" Rs who oft caucused with the enemy under the name of "bipartisanship" have had their asses completely handed to them by the evil DNC machine to the point we are staring down a national divorce and experiencing routine assassination attempts just to try and get back to "normal".

It's very good what people are learning and I will again ask why it took so frickin long?

Not everyone in this nation is willing to accede to bending a knee to Trumpism and be a subservient coward, turn a blind eye to lying and unlawful abuse of power and corruption, and have no conscience and no principles. Yet that is the price one must pay to be a loyal Trump Republican.

A big reason I wanted Massie to win was to show that you don't have to fall in line with Trump on every issue. But this situation shows that if you don't, the political machine will come after you in many different ways and have you removed.
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