Political fallout and arguments regarding the US-Israeli action against Iran 022824

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10:44p, 3/22/26
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Our "French Allies."
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In reply to nortex97 • 11:28p, 3/22/26
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Our "French Allies."

What would they even do if we DID use their airspace!?

Surrender faster?
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12:23a, 3/23/26
Unless we're willing to use nukes. We've essentially lost already. They're making good progress replacing the petrodollar with a petroyuan. Any effort take kharg island is going to result in tons of american blood for no reason when they turn the pipeline off at the other side. If we actually bomb their power plants in a few hours like Trump claims they'll destroy all the desalination plants
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In reply to OhtAg12 • 1:38a, 3/23/26
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Nope
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1:39a, 3/23/26
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Blowing up critical infrastructure is a good way to not get the Iranian people, you want to rise up, on your side.
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In reply to BlackGold • 5:56a, 3/23/26
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Nothing could convince them to support the IRGC in a power vacuum at this point.

The economic fallout in Europe though is driving some of their feckless leaders further to support the mullah regime, and lie about the reality.
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6:24a, 3/23/26
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In reply to nortex97 • 6:24a, 3/23/26
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Yep. Appeasing the ayatollahs has never worked out even over the intermediate term, let alone a long term view. Iran's former regional allies/frenemies will never look to repeat such fealty again, and the ME3 in particular are pushing the US to continue to strike (with Israel).
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In reply to OhtAg12 • 6:47a, 3/23/26
OhtAg12 said:
Unless we're willing to use nukes. We've essentially lost already. They're making good progress replacing the petrodollar with a petroyuan. Any effort take kharg island is going to result in tons of american blood for no reason when they turn the pipeline off at the other side. If we actually bomb their power plants in a few hours like Trump claims they'll destroy all the desalination plants

Who is "they?"
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7:40a, 3/23/26
EVERY HOUR the Islamic Republic commits more war crimes.

In addition to their atrocities and war crimes against their own people:

1. firing multiple warhead bomblets into civilian neighborhoods

2. illegally blocking the right to international navigation in Straits of Hormuz

3. hiding amongst civilian populations and school buildings and hospitals

4. targeting civilian homes, residential towers, electric sites

5. firing on countries that have not done anything to Iran

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In reply to OhtAg12 • 8:14a, 3/23/26
OhtAg12 said:
Unless we're willing to use nukes. We've essentially lost already. They're making good progress replacing the petrodollar with a petroyuan. Any effort take kharg island is going to result in tons of american blood for no reason when they turn the pipeline off at the other side. If we actually bomb their power plants in a few hours like Trump claims they'll destroy all the desalination plants

Wow. Can you imagine people buying into such cheap low grade pro-Iranian propaganda. To do so you really have to hate America to begin with.
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In reply to BlackGold • 8:19a, 3/23/26
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Blowing up critical infrastructure is a good way to not get the Iranian people, you want to rise up, on your side.

Oh, I dont know if the regime killed by brother or sister, I dont think I'd care about that. Besides the water taps were on their way to going dry before the war started. It is a tough call but not as tough as your are making it.

I might be thinking I could put up with a little hell to get out from under a lifetime of pure hell.
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8:23a, 3/23/26
Paging traitor Joe Kent to the White Courtesy Phone!

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9:03a, 3/23/26
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Trump just took a several minutes long ball dragging loosen **** on Joe Kent during the press gaggle before boarding AF1.

He had some pep in him this morning if you get to watch it. Slammed on Newsmaxx very hard basically yelling the guy he was surprised Newsmax had not fires him and he was still asking questions.

Good discussion on Iran as well.

I will post link when available.
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In reply to ttu_85 • 9:07a, 3/23/26
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ttu_85 said:
BlackGold said:
Blowing up critical infrastructure is a good way to not get the Iranian people, you want to rise up, on your side.

Oh, I dont know if the regime killed by brother or sister, I dont think I'd care about that. Besides the water taps were on their way to going dry before the war started. It is a tough call but not as tough as your are making it.

I might be thinking I could put up with a little hell to get out from under a lifetime of pure hell.


It's not really a tough call. If you want to totally decimate the people of Iran, blow up the infrastructure. If you want their help to fight their government, don't.
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9:26a, 3/23/26
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I wouldn't trust them.
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In reply to TRM • 9:32a, 3/23/26
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I don't think Trump has any intention of "just trusting them". But at some point you want to pause and test the waters.

Israel and US will continue to strike military targets as they pop up.

Taking out the power grid would bring about chaos and whatever is left of the old regime would lose remaining power. But it doesn't hand it over to anything but disaster.

As with VZ, it appears the approach is to take out the really, really bad… see if they cry uncle, then when they do you give them a short leash to show it.

Any "agreement" to end this will require removal of all enriched uranium and machines to do so. And not "you guys do it". It will be US control as the facilities are decommissioned and marines drill holes to retrieve the buried uranium.

If any of the old regime wants to continue respirating, they take the deal and hope for a few good years in Oman looking over their shoulders for Mossad.
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9:36a, 3/23/26
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Classic Trump negotiating. He's never wanted to take out their oil infrastructure. Has said as much so when he starts ratcheting up talk that he's going to now do it then you know you are in the endgame of negotiations. He also knows he's running out time with Congress so he wants to wrap this up.
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In reply to YouBet • 9:53a, 3/23/26
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We have to get at least 2 more regime changes in by July 4th or I will regret every vote I casted for DJT.

I don't think Trump cares much about Congress. They are showing their irrelevance day after day. Trump is just going to keep dictating his policy, which is good for America.
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In reply to BMX Bandit • 10:35a, 3/23/26
when all else fails, we can at least count on the stock market to keep trump's more destructive impulses in check. hope these discussions continue to be productive and lead to a quick resolution.
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In reply to FobTies • 11:47a, 3/23/26
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FobTies said:
Ag with kids said:
If we can eliminate as many *******s as possible, it makes America safe. It makes the world safe. And then with the WORLD SAFE, it make the world economy SO MUCH stronger...

Ag with kids said:

I don't want war.
I wish we would never have to have another war.


I wish we wouldn't ever need another war.

I also wish that Scarlett Johanssen would jump in the sack with me.


Unfortunately, I don't always get what I wish for.

I wish Iran wasn't run by Islamic ******* bent on killing Americans and exporting terror all over the world. But, it is. So, because my fantasy doesn't match reality, I support doing whatever can be done to fix that.

Getting rid of those *******s gets us a step closer to my wish of no wars.
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In reply to BlackGold • 12:04p, 3/23/26
BlackGold said:
ttu_85 said:
BlackGold said:
Blowing up critical infrastructure is a good way to not get the Iranian people, you want to rise up, on your side.

Oh, I dont know if the regime killed by brother or sister, I dont think I'd care about that. Besides the water taps were on their way to going dry before the war started. It is a tough call but not as tough as your are making it.

I might be thinking I could put up with a little hell to get out from under a lifetime of pure hell.


It's not really a tough call. If you want to totally decimate the people of Iran, blow up the infrastructure. If you want their help to fight their government, don't.

Do you see what we are doing to Cuba? Well their people are blaming it on the regime, not us.

No electricity would just accelerate Irans population to rise up
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In reply to TRM • 12:39p, 3/23/26
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I wouldn't trust them.

Iran is denying any talks are talking place. Why would Iran talk with the United States anymore? We unilaterally backed out of a deal in 2018 which they were adhering to. We assassinated Soleimani 2020. We allowed Israel to directly attack them during negotiations in 2025. And then we personally attacked them in 2026 during negotiations.

Furthermore, the US and Israel are both now just openly calling for "regime change". I see zero reason why Iran would ever "talk" with us ever again unless they received serious concessions/compensation.
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In reply to ttu_85 • 12:46p, 3/23/26
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ttu_85 said:
OhtAg12 said:
Unless we're willing to use nukes. We've essentially lost already. They're making good progress replacing the petrodollar with a petroyuan. Any effort take kharg island is going to result in tons of american blood for no reason when they turn the pipeline off at the other side. If we actually bomb their power plants in a few hours like Trump claims they'll destroy all the desalination plants

Wow. Can you imagine people buying into such cheap low grade pro-Iranian propaganda. To do so you really have to hate America to begin with.

Are you going to offer any argument to the contrary?
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In reply to BlackGold • 12:56p, 3/23/26
BlackGold said:
ttu_85 said:
BlackGold said:
Blowing up critical infrastructure is a good way to not get the Iranian people, you want to rise up, on your side.

Oh, I dont know if the regime killed by brother or sister, I dont think I'd care about that. Besides the water taps were on their way to going dry before the war started. It is a tough call but not as tough as your are making it.

I might be thinking I could put up with a little hell to get out from under a lifetime of pure hell.


It's not really a tough call. If you want to totally decimate the people of Iran, blow up the infrastructure. If you want their help to fight their government, don't.


Well, that isn't happening so it's irrelevant to talk about, but what is happening is the Iranian people apparently like living in a dictatorship. A civil war was always the endgame, and if they aren't willing to fight and die for their freedom, so be it.
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In reply to Keyno • 12:59p, 3/23/26
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Iran is denying any talks are talking place.

I ASSURE THE WORLD. WE ARE NOT IN TALKS WITH THE GREAT SATAN!!! WE WILL DESTROY EVERYTHING!!!!
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In reply to Science Denier • 1:01p, 3/23/26
Very funny picture. Did you read anything else I posted or were you just really excited to post that?
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In reply to Science Denier • 1:08p, 3/23/26
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Science Denier said:
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Iran is denying any talks are talking place.

I ASSURE THE WORLD. WE ARE NOT IN TALKS WITH THE GREAT SATAN!!! WE WILL DESTROY EVERYTHING!!!!

Trump said they needed better PR people, maybe that guy is available?

Trump was very purposeful in saying he is not ready to disclose who he is dealing with for fear they may be killed internally.

I don't recall seeing much about competing factions for control. That may be due to the utter chaos for how deep the decapitation has gone (so far).

As with VZ, the dust may take some time to settle (sorry sand, not dust).
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In reply to Keyno • 1:10p, 3/23/26
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Iran is denying any talks are talking place. Why would Iran talk with the United States anymore? We unilaterally backed out of a deal in 2018 which they were adhering to. We assassinated Soleimani 2020. We allowed Israel to directly attack them during negotiations in 2025. And then we personally attacked them in 2026 during negotiations.

Furthermore, the US and Israel are both now just openly calling for "regime change". I see zero reason why Iran would ever "talk" with us ever again unless they received serious concessions/compensation.

Yes, they will look back at their previous attempts at getting exactly what they want and being denied, and they will say "Eh, it didn't work then, so I should not see what I can do as a last resort to keep them from killing me".

That makes sense.
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In reply to flown-the-coop • 1:16p, 3/23/26
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flown-the-coop said:
It may ultimately get kinetic here at home to truly stop and reverse the damage done by liberal ideology taking over our schools, politics and boardrooms and using foreign dark money to juice MSM to complete the narrative. Look, we do it to other countries to good effect (sometimes with disastrous results).

As we know, Trump is the single greatest threat to their plans and the fact he has survived this long is amazing. But I believe we have pulled out of the death plummet and are on our way to leveling off and gaining altitude again. But that is also evidenced by their increasing ludicrous behavior and stances (mourning the killing of the supreme leader of Iran in our streets is not a protest or free speech, it is an act of insurrection and should be treated as such. Even worse if said protestor is not a US citizen.

I don't think the left would plan to or want him to become a martyr. He'd be like Obi Wan Kenobi at this point.

Can you imagine what Vance could do as POTUS with 60 senators? That would be a real possibility.

Not that I'm wishing harm on anyone, I'm just pointing out that, at this point, it would be really dumb for anyone in the US to wish harm on him, no matter how much you hated him.
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In reply to Keyno • 1:19p, 3/23/26
Keyno said:
TRM said:
I wouldn't trust them.

Iran is denying any talks are talking place. Why would Iran talk with the United States anymore? We unilaterally backed out of a deal in 2018 which they were adhering to. We assassinated Soleimani 2020. We allowed Israel to directly attack them during negotiations in 2025. And then we personally attacked them in 2026 during negotiations.

Furthermore, the US and Israel are both now just openly calling for "regime change". I see zero reason why Iran would ever "talk" with us ever again unless they received serious concessions/compensation.

Its called self-preservation, and it would also be smart. If you can show the US you can control what is left of Iran, it instantly puts you as a power broker on the world stage. Power is reason enough for someone to work with the US.
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In reply to OhtAg12 • 1:19p, 3/23/26
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OhtAg12 said:
Unless we're willing to use nukes. We've essentially lost already. They're making good progress replacing the petrodollar with a petroyuan. Any effort take kharg island is going to result in tons of american blood for no reason when they turn the pipeline off at the other side. If we actually bomb their power plants in a few hours like Trump claims they'll destroy all the desalination plants
this take is so bad I think it gave me cancer.
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In reply to Keyno • 1:21p, 3/23/26
Main reason among others is probably because they are at the talk or personal death stage
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In reply to Keyno • 1:22p, 3/23/26
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Keyno said:
TRM said:
I wouldn't trust them.

Iran is denying any talks are talking place. Why would Iran talk with the United States anymore? We unilaterally backed out of a deal in 2018 which they were adhering to. We assassinated Soleimani 2020. We allowed Israel to directly attack them during negotiations in 2025. And then we personally attacked them in 2026 during negotiations.

Furthermore, the US and Israel are both now just openly calling for "regime change". I see zero reason why Iran would ever "talk" with us ever again unless they received serious concessions/compensation.

Well, maybe because their entire leadership structure is now dead, their missiles and delivery systems are on the verge of being totally obliterated, their navy is destroyed, their nuclear program is about to be ended, we are picking off what remains of the IRGC and police state by the bushel load, we've seriously eroded their offensive capabilities, much of their infrastucture is in shambles and is getting worse every day they hold off, and we're about to take over their means of production/delivery if they don't come to the table.

If they don't negotiate soon, it's going to get a lot worse for them. They only understand superior strength. If they haven't seen enough yet, there's plenty more coming. At some point, the next guy in line is going to decide he's not going to be cannon fodder for a lost cause.

And as to your first paragraph, they have always negotiated in bad faith. That murderous, Islamo-terroristic bunch got better than they deserved. Sad to see you defending them.
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In reply to BusterAg • 1:27p, 3/23/26
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Don't think I was communicating the point I wanted to. Essentially, the Dems want their power back. They may get awfully creative in their addition for sedition.
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