******* Official Cowboys Off-Season Thread 2025 *******

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https://www.yahoo.com/sports/article/trading-micah-parsons-7-round-225349874.html

Fun article about trading Parsons and what type of haul they could get. Not likely to happen but I enjoy reading the "what if's"

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I'm just now starting to look at Tet McMillan... I'll be honest, I had no idea how big he was. 6'4" and about 220. I haven't studied much of his tape yet, but just glancing at highlights, he's definitely worthy of being picked somewhere in the top 15.

I don't think he's considered a burner, but when he gets into his stride I didn't see many, if any, guys catching him on film. And the ball skills appear to be elite.





For the fit with the Cowboys, I feel similar about him as I do about the TE Warren (who I also haven't studied yet, but taking others word for it). CD is an incredible weapon.... He runs every route from every position and is a terror. But he's not always a reliable possession WR that you can count on when it's 3rd and 4. A big body ball skills guy like Tet or Warren would, theoretically, be a big addition to this offense.
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I would jump on that deal. Parsons is consistently a non-factor by December.
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Lol Giants sign Russ
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This is why I like McMillan. We need either an insane speed threat, or a bigger body on offense that is reliable. And while I think Warren and McMillan are much better than just a big reliable target, I think this is their floor and would pair well with CD.

McMillan ran a 4.53 at his pro day, which is plenty good for someone with his frame and skill set. I think the cowboys are legitimately interested as well.

Additionally, we've all beat it to a dead horse that the cowboys should trade back 5-10 picks, but that's easier said than done in weak draft, however, I think the cowboys could have some leverage here. It's pretty widely regarded that there's really only 8-10 true blue chip NFL guys in this draft at the absolute most, which isn't great, but, the fact that Cam Ward and Sanders are pretty much lock top 10 picks is going to push at least 2 guys to us. I wonder if Dallas will put the pressure on some teams behind them if a few guys fall, knowing they likely won't be on the board much longer. Jeanty is a great example, along with Membou. Could be a simple call to the chargers regarding Jeanty or to the Bengals regarding Membou.
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98Ag99Grad said:

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/article/trading-micah-parsons-7-round-225349874.html

Fun article about trading Parsons and what type of haul they could get. Not likely to happen but I enjoy reading the "what if's"




The trade haul is great. The mock draft following is trash(though I do like the Carter and Arrojo picks) . Henderson in the 3rd? Not a chance he's still there. He might not even be there at 44 (though I love the idea of getting him rather than the top two guys while addressing other needs) Give me Emmanwori over Starks if we stay at 12 (fine if we trade back from there). Dudes a physical freak and is a home run swing
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jr15aggie said:

I'm just now starting to look at Tet McMillan... I'll be honest, I had no idea how big he was. 6'4" and about 220. I haven't studied much of his tape yet, but just glancing at highlights, he's definitely worthy of being picked somewhere in the top 15.

I don't think he's considered a burner, but when he gets into his stride I didn't see many, if any, guys catching him on film. And the ball skills appear to be elite.





For the fit with the Cowboys, I feel similar about him as I do about the TE Warren (who I also haven't studied yet, but taking others word for it). CD is an incredible weapon.... He runs every route from every position and is a terror. But he's not always a reliable possession WR that you can count on when it's 3rd and 4. A big body ball skills guy like Tet or Warren would, theoretically, be a big addition to this offense.



Put me in the camp out on Tet unless we trade down a bit. He could be a mike evans , but he can also be a dude that shows he's incapable of creating separation against nfl level DBs. If Dallas is going to swing for a WR in the first, and setting aside my Aggie bias, I'd rather take a swing on golden. He's more than just a burner/take the top off the defense type. He runs really good routes and makes really good contested catches down the field. Hes a potential poor mans Tyreek (without the baggage)
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There are more than a few draft folks that have golden as WR1 in this draft.
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Agree that he's not a clean prospect across the board and he's not alone. It's the biggest hurdle for us sitting at 12... you would expect all of the blue chip / can't miss prospects to be gone.

With what I expect to be gone, I'm thinking OT might be our best bet. Either we take one or trade to a team that needs one. People have been pointing to Seattle at 18... they have two 2nd & 3rd rounders and I'm told their O-line is garbage. Move back 6 spots and the trade value says we'd get one of their 2nd as a comp.

If all the blue chippers are gone at 12 I'd do that deal all day.
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Questions for y'all about our O-line because I have very little knowledge on how to grade guys in the trenches.

Assuming OT is in play for us at #12... isn't the general thought that we would be drafting our future LT and Guyton moves back over to the right side where he played in college? I've also heard people say that Steel could move inside as well and play Guard.

So, in theory, we could fix 3 spots on the o-line with one move? Sounds like typical Cowboys wishful thinking, but what else we got!?!
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jr15aggie said:

Questions for y'all about our O-line because I have very little knowledge on how to grade guys in the trenches.

Assuming OT is in play for us at #12... isn't the general thought that we would be drafting our future LT and Guyton moves back over to the right side where he played in college? I've also heard people say that Steel could move inside as well and play Guard.

So, in theory, we could fix 3 spots on the o-line with one move? Sounds like typical Cowboys wishful thinking, but what else we got!?!
I want us to draft OL or top DL prospect with our #1. We need help in the trenches.
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OT at 12 you are looking at Membou from Missouri, who I have heard might be best suited for RT. Simmons from tOSU who is an injury concern. And Banks from sip who some project as Guard but I have heard Broaddus and others say they would stick with him at tackle. Another name is Donovan Jackson from tOSU who has some G/T flex. He's probably a later pick though.

I think if they drafted a tackle it would be to replace Guyton at LT and they let Steele and Guyton battle it out at RT. It's not a bad idea because Steele is a prime cap casualty next season.

I have also heard rumors about moving Cooper Beebe back to G, where he played in college, and giving Brock Hoffman the center duties or drafting one
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Two things:

I think people need to frame the WR position in this draft through the lens that basically all of them are No. 2 receivers in the NFL. McMillan has the size and frame, and upside to be a No. 1, but it's a risk that high in the draft because he doesn't just jump off the charts athletically (still a great athlete, just not freaky). But all of these guys scream great No. 2, which isn't a bad thing. Those guys get paid huge money too (see Tee Higgins).

On the o-line, I also think people need to remember that we are bringing in basically a whole new coaching staff and an offensive coordinator that is extremely good with the o-line. They are not punting on Guyton either. I like Membou the best in this draft, and think he's a plug and play guard with upside to develop into a tackle when Steele gets cut next year.
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OK. Yeah, I heard that Simmons was the best of the bunch, but injury concerns are the issue.

So it sounds like there isn't necessarily a bunch of plug and play LT prospects either, which is unusual. There's usually 2 or 3 guys in every draft and one of them is usually available at 12.
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I think the Tackle spot this year is very weird because none of them truly jump off the page athletically or physically. Will Campbell is good, not great and has super short arms for a tackle. Banks is all around good not great, and people question his overall size, Membou is an elite athlete, but would be on the smaller end for a tackle. Etc etc etc.
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jr15aggie said:

OK. Yeah, I heard that Simmons was the best of the bunch, but injury concerns are the issue.

Just want to clarify, I don't think he has been perpetually injured, but he got an ACL injury in the first Oregon game this year. I believe he had started every game the previous 2+ seasons.

He is probably the best of the group, you're just taking him coming off an in-season injury, so his effectiveness in year 1 is the question.
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Tksymm7 said:

Two things:

I think people need to frame the WR position in this draft through the lens that basically all of them are No. 2 receivers in the NFL. McMillan has the size and frame, and upside to be a No. 1, but it's a risk that high in the draft because he doesn't just jump off the charts athletically (still a great athlete, just not freaky). But all of these guys scream great No. 2, which isn't a bad thing. Those guys get paid huge money too (see Tee Higgins).

On the o-line, I also think people need to remember that we are bringing in basically a whole new coaching staff and an offensive coordinator that is extremely good with the o-line. They are not punting on Guyton either. I like Membou the best in this draft, and think he's a plug and play guard with upside to develop into a tackle when Steele gets cut next year.

Very good post!

I think in general, I'm just not excited or know what I want at #12 right now... feels like the best / most exciting prospects will all be gone.

Like you said, WR and O-line have good prospects, but we just need to set expectations on what this draft has. You typically expect more for a #12 pick, but you can only take what the draft gives you.

CB isn't a spot we've talked about much, but probably need to start paying attention to. Sorta sucks because I'd really like to give our offense some juice with our 1st two picks... but CB is a position of need and it could be BPA when we are on the clock.
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This cowboys draft fascinates me more this year than usual. In general, I am a big best available guy early. As others have said there is really only 10 top end guys and Jeanty is one of those. The problem I have with Jeanty is how deep the RB class is. I truly would be happy if we landed Jeanty, Hampton, Henderson, Judkins, or the kid from Iowa. I just want them at value, not the #12 pick. So I think my preference is for f one of 9 guys drop to us, I will take him. If not, I prefer to trade back and probably go WR 1st. I like McMillan and I still like Luther Burden over Golden. Then prob go RB in round 2. Then find corner.

Just so many holes to fill. You are going to have to accept being mediocre at best at a couple of positions. I am a line first guy and I hated the Guyton pick and still do. I just don't see a lot of no doubt upgrades for line early in draft outside top 10 guys. Scheme around mediocre line with weapons.

You have to bring in 3 quality starters in this draft. You need a 4th that is depth without much drop off.
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I look to trade down a few picks but still land one of the top 2-3 RBs. I don't like the idea of waiting until the 2nd rounder to address it. I also don't like any of the OL or WR at 12. Pick up one of the best RBs, an extra pick or two, and address the other needs later
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DannyDuberstein said:

I look to trade down a few picks but still land one of the top 2-3 RBs. I don't like the idea of waiting until the 2nd rounder to address it. I also don't like any of the OL or WR at 12. Pick up one of the best RBs, an extra pick or two, and address the other needs later


Good philosophy. Get an extra pick to address corner as there are many high end corners in each draft selected in the 4th and later. Get one of Hampton/Jeanty/Judkins in the first or Warren with an RB in 2nd. Offense needs speed.
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I also trust McClay to find an OL in the 2nd or 3rd.
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If a trade isn't possible, I think the best course of action would be to just take the player with the highest upside possible. As long as Dak is healthy, I really don't think we're drafting top 12 or higher for the near future, so take a swing in a bad draft on a guy who's got all-pro upside. Again I personally like McMillian, but guys like Membou, Shemar Stewart, Jalon Walker, Mykel Williams and Jihaad Campbell fit that mold. Extremely high upside but either lack of production in college, the position they play etc.

ETA: I've seen more and more that Membou is going to be a top 10 pick.
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Looking at the teams with multiple draft picks especially in round 2 to see who would make a good trade partner.

Buffalo has multiple picks in round 2 and 4. Would be 12 for 30, 56, 109 (no 3rd) and maybe get them to throw in some 2026 comp. They are in the window to compete for a Super Bowl and need WR, CB, Edge so trading up with Dallas should get them one of those guys. Too far back?

Seattle is at 18. They have multiple 2nds. 12 for 18 and 52. They need a guard as do 4 teams ahead of them. I wouldn't mind this move.
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We gotta remember that anything is possible when the Raiders are picking ahead of us.

The CD Lamb miracle happened because the Raiders made Henry Ruggs the first WR off the board. Felt like it started a domino effect of head scratcher picks.

Just need LV to do something really stupid again this year at #6!
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I like WR more in first round only because you are really in a bad place there. I can live with the 2 RBs we picked up and a RB in later rounds if we missed on top 5. If we picked a RB round 1 and found the top 3-4 WR were off. The board for next pick we are in a bad place. A really good #2 WR will help RBs. With our line, I am not sure a good RB will help our passing game as much.
My top 3 needs are
WR
RB
CB

The interesting one is Warren. I feel like he is potentially a generational player at his position. I like Ferguson a lot. Do we need Warren that high. Is he so good that he replaces that need for a very good #2? Or is he simply the better option because there are not any no doubt receivers in this class?

I also look at the great WRs today? What round were they drafted in? 7 of your top 8 receivers last year were drafted in 1st round.
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The only Penn State game I really sat down and watched was against USC last year when Warren went for 224 yds and a TD in 17 receptions. It was very impressive. I
Not sure the Cowboys need a TE that high, but he does seem very very good.

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Agree w CB.

CB is now a real sneaky need for this team. Diggs is a question mark due to the injury and many say that they have an out after next year on his contract.

The best player at 12 might just be a CB so we might need to prepare for that.
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I like the idea of Benjamin Morrison in the 2nd round if WR or RB was addressed in the first. You get the best CB in the draft who was there because of injury. He's supposed to be good to go for the 2025 season.
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Ceedee is going to have to find a new first down celebration…
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Browns talking to the Cowboys about Dak???

edit: After reading through the comments, doesn't sound remotely possible.

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TyHolden said:

Browns talking to the Cowboys about Dak???

edit: After reading through the comments, doesn't sound remotely possible.




Oh damn, knew it was too good to be true
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Could you imagine trading Dak? You get top draft picks. You can then restructure Parsons contract with the open cap space this year to give him a big bonus and then free up space in outer years.

Based on the Eagles cap in outer years the window to beat them will come 3-4 years. At which point Daniel's will get his $$$$ so the commanders will be in a cap bind. The giants will still suck.
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texagbeliever said:

Could you imagine trading Dak? You get top draft picks. You can then restructure Parsons contract with the open cap space this year to give him a big bonus and then free up space in outer years.

You left out the part where I'm not sure if it's even possible with regards to the cap rules and the cap hit that would happen if Dak left Dallas. Pretty sure there isn't a scenario where Dak isn't here for the '25 & '26 season. After that we can possibly do something.

And I'm also pretty sure Dak has a no trade clause in his contract as well. He can choose to waive it, but lol, he's not waiving that clause to go play in Cleveland. Talk about endorsement suicide!
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texagbeliever said:

Could you imagine trading Dak? You get top draft picks. You can then restructure Parsons contract with the open cap space this year to give him a big bonus and then free up space in outer years.

Based on the Eagles cap in outer years the window to beat them will come 3-4 years. At which point Daniel's will get his $$$$ so the commanders will be in a cap bind. The giants will still suck.
I can imagine...I can even dream about it. I'm not a Dak fan...I was, but I've seen enough. I'm not so dumb to suggest to do it, unless it was really compelling and there was a clear and viable path forward without him. I just don't think that dude will ever take us to the promised land.
 
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