That ref ran CeeDee over.
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Mingo sure can draw a flag.
Did it ever come out why Bennett didn't play last year?
Wasn't he in an alcohol rehab at some point? Not sure if that was why but I thought I remembered an issue.
Definitely some type of personal isdue but wasn't sure if they ever actually said what it was. Hope he got help and can stay clean if thats the case. Gotta be tough as a pro athlete avoiding temptations like that
98Ag99Grad said:
Definitely some type of personal isdue but wasn't sure if they ever actually said what it was. Hope he got help and can stay clean if thats the case. Gotta be tough as a pro athlete avoiding temptations like that
You'd figure when you draft a player a few years away from collecting social security he'd be mature enough to handle himself.
Glad we can quit the milton hype quick. One day Jerry is going to have to spend draft capital on a QB.
At least he throws the ball down the field. Rush didn't seem to ever throw one farther than 10 yards during the preseason.
Also very fair hahaha
Impressive outing from Schoonmaker, Tolbert, and Mingo.
Tksymm7 said:
Glad we can quit the milton hype quick. One day Jerry is going to have to spend draft capital on a QB.
The only fans hyping him were the "NFL only" crowd. Nobody who watched in college had any illusions about him.
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Nice bounce back.
Infection_Ag11 said:Tksymm7 said:
Glad we can quit the milton hype quick. One day Jerry is going to have to spend draft capital on a QB.
The only fans hyping him were the "NFL only" crowd. Nobody who watched in college had any illusions about him.
not even the NFL only crowd, just people that see a clip of him throwing the ball far
He's the textbook case of having all the measurables but that QB in this game really boils down to how quickly you can make the right decisions and throw accurately. You just need an arm good enough to make the throws and legs good enough to reasonably get yourself out of harm's way
Didn't see the game here in Houston. Any positives besides no big injuries? Any rooks look good?
Marfa averaged about 4.3 yards a carry and Milton threw deep quite a bit with some ok results. They were completely awful on both sides of the ball in the first quarter then settled down and it was pretty even the rest of the game. Shotty was definitely more aggressive in his play calling . Milton missed some way wide open receivers on several plays which would have led to TDs.
98Ag99Grad said:
Didn't see the game here in Houston. Any positives besides no big injuries? Any rooks look good?
If the play calling was any indication of what's to come, I'm looking forward to seeing what it looks like with Dak/Ceedee/Pickens/Ferguson out there. The passing game was hyper aggressive.
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Overall execution by the Rams was far better than Dallas.
Very poor tackling by Dallas.
LA running backs ran fast, followed their blocks and finished hard. Corum and that White Guy from Missouri were excellent
Bennett ( Ram QB ) showed leadership and play making ability.
Ram receivers were not only open every play but Dallas o-line couldn't put pressure on Bennett ( or stop the run for that matter )
Dallas needs a dependable backup QB. Grier is the better if the two but there has to be someone better out there.
Yup, it's only pre- season but after the reports of poor scrimmage and line play against the Rams, I kinda expected a better overall showing.
Again: Pre season.
Very poor tackling by Dallas.
LA running backs ran fast, followed their blocks and finished hard. Corum and that White Guy from Missouri were excellent
Bennett ( Ram QB ) showed leadership and play making ability.
Ram receivers were not only open every play but Dallas o-line couldn't put pressure on Bennett ( or stop the run for that matter )
Dallas needs a dependable backup QB. Grier is the better if the two but there has to be someone better out there.
Yup, it's only pre- season but after the reports of poor scrimmage and line play against the Rams, I kinda expected a better overall showing.
Again: Pre season.
Southlake said:
Overall execution by the Rams was far better than Dallas.
Very poor tackling by Dallas.
LA running backs ran fast, followed their blocks and finished hard. Corum and that White Guy from Missouri were excellent
Bennett ( Ram QB ) showed leadership and play making ability.
Ram receivers were not only open every play but Dallas o-line couldn't put pressure on Bennett ( or stop the run for that matter )
Dallas needs a dependable backup QB. Grier is the better if the two but there has to be someone better out there.
Yup, it's only pre- season but after the reports of poor scrimmage and line play against the Rams, I kinda expected a better overall showing.
Again: Pre season.
Checking the box score and participation report, I feel confident in saying that game saw the fewest snaps for players who will actually be on the regular season roster of any Cowboys preseason game I've ever seen. Less than a fouth of the snaps were taken by guys who will make the team, and nearly all of those by guys who won't be playing meaningful snaps barring injury.
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And I'm fine with that for pre-season game #1. But based on what's being reported about the things Schotty has been saying... I'll be very disappointed if he bubble wraps his "real" players all pre-season long like Mike did.
I wanted to use Milton as an example of what I've never understood about how the NFL evaluates players.
Why do you constantly hear about how Milton has all of the tools and he just needs to develop. I'm sorry, but if your WR is legit 15 yards wide open and you overthrow him by 10 yards, you do NOT have all the tools. Accuracy is not something you can teach. You can improve it some, but you can't teach it.
Just frustrating to watch teams look at QBs and think "I can fix him". I guess it's fine for now, but you already know he's never going to be a franchise QB in the NFL and he's currently not a better back-up QB than Will Grier.
Why do you constantly hear about how Milton has all of the tools and he just needs to develop. I'm sorry, but if your WR is legit 15 yards wide open and you overthrow him by 10 yards, you do NOT have all the tools. Accuracy is not something you can teach. You can improve it some, but you can't teach it.
Just frustrating to watch teams look at QBs and think "I can fix him". I guess it's fine for now, but you already know he's never going to be a franchise QB in the NFL and he's currently not a better back-up QB than Will Grier.
Looks like Schotty plans on playing more players in game 2. For sure Booker and hopefully some of the younger starting defensive players. You can't bubble wrap everyone. I know the fear of injuries, but still... the young guys need meaningful reps, pre-season or not.
I agree 100%. I know it's been talked about here before, but everyone is trying to find the "next" Josh Allen and some teams use high draft capital to do that. At least we didn't use a high 1st like the Colts did on Richardson.
We only traded a 5th and if he sucks this year and next, can cut him. Very few 5th round picks make the team anyway, so I'm totally fine with the dart throw.
The problem with trying to find the "next" Josh Allen is that Josh Allen is basically the ONLY success of taking a raw but athletically gifted prospect and refining their accuracy and decision-making. Jalen Hurts could be another similar example, but I think he was a bit more of a gifted passer than Allen was coming out. The other one I will be interested to see is Jalen Milroe - I think he is the next closest option for a developmental prospect that could be good eventually.
We only traded a 5th and if he sucks this year and next, can cut him. Very few 5th round picks make the team anyway, so I'm totally fine with the dart throw.
The problem with trying to find the "next" Josh Allen is that Josh Allen is basically the ONLY success of taking a raw but athletically gifted prospect and refining their accuracy and decision-making. Jalen Hurts could be another similar example, but I think he was a bit more of a gifted passer than Allen was coming out. The other one I will be interested to see is Jalen Milroe - I think he is the next closest option for a developmental prospect that could be good eventually.
jr15aggie said:
I wanted to use Milton as an example of what I've never understood about how the NFL evaluates players.
Why do you constantly hear about how Milton has all of the tools and he just needs to develop. I'm sorry, but if your WR is legit 15 yards wide open and you overthrow him by 10 yards, you do NOT have all the tools. Accuracy is not something you can teach. You can improve it some, but you can't teach it.
Just frustrating to watch teams look at QBs and think "I can fix him". I guess it's fine for now, but you already know he's never going to be a franchise QB in the NFL and he's currently not a better back-up QB than Will Grier.
Josh Allen ruined the NFL QB talent evaluation process forever
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cman1494 said:
I agree 100%. I know it's been talked about here before, but everyone is trying to find the "next" Josh Allen and some teams use high draft capital to do that. At least we didn't use a high 1st like the Colts did on Richardson.
We only traded a 5th and if he sucks this year and next, can cut him. Very few 5th round picks make the team anyway, so I'm totally fine with the dart throw.
The problem with trying to find the "next" Josh Allen is that Josh Allen is basically the ONLY success of taking a raw but athletically gifted prospect and refining their accuracy and decision-making. Jalen Hurts could be another similar example, but I think he was a bit more of a gifted passer than Allen was coming out. The other one I will be interested to see is Jalen Milroe - I think he is the next closest option for a developmental prospect that could be good eventually.
Jalen Hurts is a very average NFL QB
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I'd say he and Mahomes both did. Both guys with serious question marks heading into the NFL from a "can they do it at this level" perspective, but both with absolutely off the charts ability in terms of arm, pocket awareness, character etc. Now everyone is chasing that. Which I don't blame them for. Mahomes and Allen are worth like a touchdown each and every week.
Look at the last top 5 pick drafted QBs in the the NFL. Only 1 was/is great and that is Stafford. So this problem predates Josh Allen.
I think QBs are just so hard to evaluate and the bust rate is so high because of that. With almost every other position, you can reasonably project a floor and ceiling (barring injury or extenuating circumstances).
With QBs, so much is dependent on their accuracy, ability to read a defense, how quickly they can process the game, etc.
And it's so hard to project how that will translate to the NFL level. Look at Brock Purdy; he isn't (IMO) a top-10 NFL QB, but he has great intangibles and is in the perfect system for him. Same with Jalen Hurts; totally different type of QB, but is in the perfect system. Put him on the Cowboys, I doubt he is nearly as good as he is now.
Then you have QBs who would probably be good in any system: Burrow, Mahomes, Stafford, Josh Allen (now, not 5 years ago), Herbert, maybe Jayden Daniels. Lamar would fit in this category, but I think you really need the right offense to play to his full strength.
With QBs, so much is dependent on their accuracy, ability to read a defense, how quickly they can process the game, etc.
And it's so hard to project how that will translate to the NFL level. Look at Brock Purdy; he isn't (IMO) a top-10 NFL QB, but he has great intangibles and is in the perfect system for him. Same with Jalen Hurts; totally different type of QB, but is in the perfect system. Put him on the Cowboys, I doubt he is nearly as good as he is now.
Then you have QBs who would probably be good in any system: Burrow, Mahomes, Stafford, Josh Allen (now, not 5 years ago), Herbert, maybe Jayden Daniels. Lamar would fit in this category, but I think you really need the right offense to play to his full strength.
cman1494 said:
We only traded a 5th and if he sucks this year and next, can cut him. Very few 5th round picks make the team anyway, so I'm totally fine with the dart throw.
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe we gave them a 5th but got their 7th. So it was a pick swap, not a straight up pick.
But yes, it was a worthwhile trade (unlike the 4th we gave for Lance) for a guy that could be our back-up QB. I'm not so sure that happens this year... I'd personally want Grier in there if Dak goes down. But Milton could definitely turn into a nice/athletic backup option going forward.
Josh Allen will always be an outlier. In college, his throwing mechanics were awful, but he was a great athlete. I honestly thought he'd be a bust because he wasn't a good football player yet he put in an incredible amount of work and made mechanical changes that most guys simply don't or can't make.
The vast majority of players drafted for the same reasons he was end up failing, because they're usually just bad football players who can throw hard. Every coach sees a guy like that and thinks, "I can fix him," but it rarely works. The fact that Josh Allen exists helps keep that idea alive.
The vast majority of players drafted for the same reasons he was end up failing, because they're usually just bad football players who can throw hard. Every coach sees a guy like that and thinks, "I can fix him," but it rarely works. The fact that Josh Allen exists helps keep that idea alive.
2 days and no posts on this thread. The excitement for this season is off the charts
I didn't even hang any cowboys stuff on my classroom this year. My previous students noticed and they understood lol
No matter what!
Epstein didn't do, you know, the thing...
I'm the rare Astros/Cowboys/Spurs fan. We do exist
Epstein didn't do, you know, the thing...
I'm the rare Astros/Cowboys/Spurs fan. We do exist
duck79 said:
2 days and no posts on this thread. The excitement for this season is off the charts
Anytime the thread goes silent for a few days during dead periods, I get somewhat anxious when I finally see new posts... "Damnit, I bet somebody got hurt".
Should the cowboys dump Rowdy the mascot and create one based on Crazy Ray? I say yeah. That would be woke and cool. 
I'm shocked by this point the mascot isn't wearing a giant Jerry head