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In reply to LB12Diamond • 3:54p, 8/19/25
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Tom Brady thought playing in preseason was important but what the heck would he know.

Burrow had not been playing in preseason the last two years and they started slow both times which cost them. Now he's playing in preseason.

The NFC East is a lot stronger than in the past when the Cowboys made the playoffs due in part to an easy NFC East. Every game is going to matter.

I personally would have the starters play a series or two like in the olden days. But I'm not going to get too worked up about it. Many teams have played nobody in the preseason and have been fine.
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In reply to Ag Natural • 4:12p, 8/19/25
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I will agree on that... regardless of our opinions it really doesn't make a huge difference either way.
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It seems like the Commanders are looking to offload Brian Robinson Jr. due to the emergence of their 7th round rookie, Croskey-Merritt. I know the Cowboys wouldn't be a trade partner, but if they released him outright, it would be dumb not to kick the tires.

He isn't great, but he's better than Sanders and maybe equal or better than Javonte, so would be a good add for the backfield.
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In reply to cman1494 • 9:21a, 8/20/25
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Sanders is definitely washed in what little I've seen of him. At least Zeke had a little burst early in the season which would fade by mid-season... Sanders doesn't have any burst right now.

We will keep 1 vet (Javonte) and Blue... after that I'm pretty sure we keep Luepke as a hybrid RB/TE/Special Teams guy so it's possible we carry another RB (Mafah or Deuce), but it's also possible we stash 1 or both on the practice squad so that we can go long at another position.

I don't see Robinson fitting in any better than Sanders, meaning he doesn't.
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In reply to jr15aggie • 9:25a, 8/20/25
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To my post above, it would be nice if we can keep both Deuce & Mafa (practice squad). If Williams goes down we elevate Mafa to give us an all purpose back. If Blue goes down we elevate Deuce to give us a change of pace guy with burst.

It's still a very weak RB room top to bottom.
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In reply to jr15aggie • 9:33a, 8/20/25
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I think Mafah is a borderline lock to make this team. Your three guys will be Williams, Blue and Mafah, with Sanders as a break glass in case of emergency type of guy. It's not the best or ideal, but it's fine as long as the o line can get healthy and be solid. Each of those guys brings a different element to this team, and be fine giving the ball to Williams 10-15 times a game, Blue 5-10 and Mafah 5-10.
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10:58a, 8/20/25
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There is absolutely no threat from the RB position.

Robinson would be an upgrade: that's how bad it is.

Milton should have been cut last week. There's nothing there.

Mazi should have been cut last year.

Who the hell is the GM around here?
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In reply to Southlake • 11:23a, 8/20/25
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Blue is a threat at RB if reports are to be believed (but none of us have seen him yet)... but at best he's Tony Pollard from a few years ago getting maybe 10-ish touches a game.

The ONLY reason Mazi is still here is his 1st round guaranteed money. But it's time to accept the loss and rip off the band-aid. Mazi flat out cannot play NFL football.
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In reply to jr15aggie • 11:40a, 8/20/25
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We also need bodies at this point. The odds of us being able to get two or more NFL caliber DTs if that size if we cut Mazi is slim to none. He's not a good player but he is a body at a position that we need.
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11:55a, 8/20/25
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I feel like Mazi will be a surprise cut. Potentially Schoonmaker as well. Both guys that Schotty has no connection to...
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In reply to cman1494 • 3:06p, 8/20/25
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I feel like Mazi will be a surprise cut. Potentially Schoonmaker as well. Both guys that Schotty has no connection to...


Ironically enough, both from the same draft and it's EXACTLY what happens when you start reaching. We felt like we just had to have a big man DT so we reached for Mazi. And then we really wanted/needed another TE so we then reached for Schoonmaker.

What we should have done was drafted our TE LaPorta in the first round (would have been shocking at the time, but they had him with a 1st or very high 2nd grade) and then taken BPA going into the 2nd.

This is how drafts go off the rails.
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10:29p, 8/20/25
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And the Jets spent 2 late round picks to get 2 DT today. Must be nice to have a GM with a clue, and I can't believe our front office is getting shown up by the Jets

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/46034061/jets-deal-vikings-harrison-phillips-browns-jowon-briggs
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In reply to ramblin_ag02 • 6:40a, 8/21/25
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Yeah man if I'm critical of anything Jerry & McClay do, it's their player acquisitions via trades.

In recent years we've sent 4th rounders for Lance and Mingo and then swapped a 5th for a 7th for Milton.

Not only are we not improving our team, we are giving away premium picks for guys that can't play. And I say premium picks because Dallas is constantly finding really good players in the 4th and 5th rounds.
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6:47a, 8/21/25
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Yeah, this team's issue is every other type of player acquisition. McClay's drafting has been very good on the whole. Busts happen, especially late in the first. But McClay generally makes his ammo count. From 2010-2022, 10 of his first 13 picks were Pro Bowlers, most of which were pretty routine pro bowlers vs 1 timers. And a lot of those were taken mid to late 1st
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In reply to ramblin_ag02 • 8:15a, 8/21/25
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I very much wish we would be more aggressive with trades like that...
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ramblin_ag02 said:
And the Jets spent 2 late round picks to get 2 DT today. Must be nice to have a GM with a clue, and I can't believe our front office is getting shown up by the Jets

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/46034061/jets-deal-vikings-harrison-phillips-browns-jowon-briggs


They don't care. They're stroking each other off over their Netflix series.
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In reply to FTAG 2000 • 11:56a, 8/21/25
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One of the episodes mentions the current valuation of the franchise, and I couldn't help but think how much higher that valuation would be if they were serious about winning.

There is also a quote from Jerry's father that he shares about "making it look like things are working even when they are not otherwise you will be seen as a failure forever" which explains their operations so accurately.
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In reply to cman1494 • 2:09p, 8/21/25
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I very much wish we would be more aggressive with trades like that...


We can't, because instead of having picks available to give out for quality players, we've instead (for the past few years) been wasting them on guys that can't play. Dallas is constantly looking at the hot/crazy chicks and thinking "I can fix her!".

Same can be said about our contracts. We've been fumbling every large contract for the past handful of years, our cap is in bad shape and every agent has us by the balls.



Cowboys have been really great at drafting... absolutely top 5 in the NFL. But we have been near the bottom when it comes to player acquisition & contract extensions. This is why we can't get over the hump.
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In reply to jr15aggie • 3:34p, 8/21/25
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jr15aggie said:
cman1494 said:
I very much wish we would be more aggressive with trades like that...


We can't, because instead of having picks available to give out for quality players, we've instead (for the past few years) been wasting them on guys that can't play. Dallas is constantly looking at the hot/crazy chicks and thinking "I can fix her!".

Same can be said about our contracts. We've been fumbling every large contract for the past handful of years, our cap is in bad shape and every agent has us by the balls.



Cowboys have been really great at drafting... absolutely top 5 in the NFL. But we have been near the bottom when it comes to player acquisition & contract extensions. This is why we can't get over the hump.

Charean Williams said on TexAgs Live a couple weeks ago that she believes Jerry is cash poor, so he holds onto his cash until he absolutely HAS to put it into escrow for a new contract. It earns more cash for him as long as he has it, but as soon as he puts it into escrow for the contract, it wouldn't. She said she can't prove that, but it's what she believes. I tend to believe she is correct, given the way Jerry does contract negotiations.
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In reply to Rex Racer • 3:42p, 8/21/25
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Rex Racer said:
jr15aggie said:
cman1494 said:
I very much wish we would be more aggressive with trades like that...


We can't, because instead of having picks available to give out for quality players, we've instead (for the past few years) been wasting them on guys that can't play. Dallas is constantly looking at the hot/crazy chicks and thinking "I can fix her!".

Same can be said about our contracts. We've been fumbling every large contract for the past handful of years, our cap is in bad shape and every agent has us by the balls.



Cowboys have been really great at drafting... absolutely top 5 in the NFL. But we have been near the bottom when it comes to player acquisition & contract extensions. This is why we can't get over the hump.

Charean Williams said on TexAgs Live a couple weeks ago that she believes Jerry is cash poor, so he holds onto his cash until he absolutely HAS to put it into escrow for a new contract. It earns more cash for him as long as he has it, but as soon as he puts it into escrow for the contract, it wouldn't. She said she can't prove that, but it's what she believes. I tend to believe she is correct, given the way Jerry does contract negotiations.

That's girl math at its finest.
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3:44p, 8/21/25
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I am so tired of the Joneses
God loves you so much He'll meet you where you are. He also loves you too much to allow to stay where you are.

We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
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In reply to Rex Racer • 4:13p, 8/21/25
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Watching the Cowboys Netflix series certainly doesn't make me disagree with this theory. Even though Jerry has always been "wealthy", the guy on more than one occasion had all his money and his loaned money completely invested. As he said in Episode 1... he's probably too good at borrowing money.

So yeah, the guy is indeed a billionaire, but the concept of him being cash poor is not out of the question.
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In reply to Rex Racer • 4:25p, 8/21/25
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Rex Racer said:
jr15aggie said:
cman1494 said:
I very much wish we would be more aggressive with trades like that...


We can't, because instead of having picks available to give out for quality players, we've instead (for the past few years) been wasting them on guys that can't play. Dallas is constantly looking at the hot/crazy chicks and thinking "I can fix her!".

Same can be said about our contracts. We've been fumbling every large contract for the past handful of years, our cap is in bad shape and every agent has us by the balls.



Cowboys have been really great at drafting... absolutely top 5 in the NFL. But we have been near the bottom when it comes to player acquisition & contract extensions. This is why we can't get over the hump.

Charean Williams said on TexAgs Live a couple weeks ago that she believes Jerry is cash poor, so he holds onto his cash until he absolutely HAS to put it into escrow for a new contract. It earns more cash for him as long as he has it, but as soon as he puts it into escrow for the contract, it wouldn't. She said she can't prove that, but it's what she believes. I tend to believe she is correct, given the way Jerry does contract negotiations.


That would be an incredibly silly thing for her to say as it conveys a fundamental misunderstanding regarding NFL contracts, the salary cap and how players get paid. That's just not how it works.

It also ignores that Dallas is first amongst sports franchises in the world in gross annual revenue and third in net revenue.
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In reply to shack009 • 4:26p, 8/21/25
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shack009 said:
Rex Racer said:
jr15aggie said:
cman1494 said:
I very much wish we would be more aggressive with trades like that...


We can't, because instead of having picks available to give out for quality players, we've instead (for the past few years) been wasting them on guys that can't play. Dallas is constantly looking at the hot/crazy chicks and thinking "I can fix her!".

Same can be said about our contracts. We've been fumbling every large contract for the past handful of years, our cap is in bad shape and every agent has us by the balls.



Cowboys have been really great at drafting... absolutely top 5 in the NFL. But we have been near the bottom when it comes to player acquisition & contract extensions. This is why we can't get over the hump.

Charean Williams said on TexAgs Live a couple weeks ago that she believes Jerry is cash poor, so he holds onto his cash until he absolutely HAS to put it into escrow for a new contract. It earns more cash for him as long as he has it, but as soon as he puts it into escrow for the contract, it wouldn't. She said she can't prove that, but it's what she believes. I tend to believe she is correct, given the way Jerry does contract negotiations.

That's girl math at its finest.


It's pretty embarrassing frankly. Someone should take her aside and tell her to stop making herself look silly if that's indeed what she is going around telling people.
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In reply to Infection_Ag11 • 4:27p, 8/21/25
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Infection_Ag11 said:
Rex Racer said:
jr15aggie said:
cman1494 said:
I very much wish we would be more aggressive with trades like that...


We can't, because instead of having picks available to give out for quality players, we've instead (for the past few years) been wasting them on guys that can't play. Dallas is constantly looking at the hot/crazy chicks and thinking "I can fix her!".

Same can be said about our contracts. We've been fumbling every large contract for the past handful of years, our cap is in bad shape and every agent has us by the balls.



Cowboys have been really great at drafting... absolutely top 5 in the NFL. But we have been near the bottom when it comes to player acquisition & contract extensions. This is why we can't get over the hump.

Charean Williams said on TexAgs Live a couple weeks ago that she believes Jerry is cash poor, so he holds onto his cash until he absolutely HAS to put it into escrow for a new contract. It earns more cash for him as long as he has it, but as soon as he puts it into escrow for the contract, it wouldn't. She said she can't prove that, but it's what she believes. I tend to believe she is correct, given the way Jerry does contract negotiations.


That would be an incredibly silly thing for her to say as it conveys a fundamental misunderstanding regarding NFL contracts, the salary cap and how players get paid. That's just not how it works.

It also ignores that Dallas is first amongst sports franchises in the world in gross annual revenue and third in net revenue.

Never-the-less, she did, in fact, say it. Also, the fully guaranteed money for some contracts is required to be in an escrow account. See Cleveland's contract with DeShaun Watson for an example.
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4:27p, 8/21/25
I've posted this several times but I have been told by multiple people that don't know each other that Jerry is cash poor. One guy has ties to another nfl franchise and another guy rubs elbows with his family as they are all Arkansas big cigars. He's leveraged to the hilt and not all of his business ventures are a huge hit and some eat into cash while not generating a lot of cash.
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In reply to VP at Pierce and Pierce • 4:33p, 8/21/25
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VP at Pierce and Pierce said:
I've posted this several times but I have been told by multiple people that don't know each other that Jerry is cash poor. One guy has ties to another nfl franchise and another guy rubs elbows with his family as they are all Arkansas big cigars. He's leveraged to the hilt and not all of his business ventures are a huge hit and some eat into cash while not generating a lot of cash.


That may be true, I have no idea. My point is it's irrelevant to this discussion. Jerry being cash poor has nothing to do with him waiting longer to sign guys. For one, that's just a fundamental misunderstanding of how players are paid. Two, waiting longer to sign contracts leads to requiring MORE money especially up front. In their world where owner cash flow determines their ability to sign contracts, a cash poor owner just wouldn't be re-signing guys. Jerry resigns his guys to a fault and does so in a manner that usually costs him more money. Signing them later at greater cost that would outweigh the extra interest on their invested cash, again in the scenario where that's how things worked (it isn't). And again, Dallas' annual net revenue is greater than the net returns of most NFL owners entire portfolio. If Jerry is cash poor then he's leveraged to an incredible degree.

The whole argument is just nonsensical.
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I absolutely cannot stand Charean Williams. That is all.
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In reply to Rex Racer • 4:50p, 8/21/25
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Rex Racer said:
Infection_Ag11 said:
Rex Racer said:
jr15aggie said:
cman1494 said:
I very much wish we would be more aggressive with trades like that...


We can't, because instead of having picks available to give out for quality players, we've instead (for the past few years) been wasting them on guys that can't play. Dallas is constantly looking at the hot/crazy chicks and thinking "I can fix her!".

Same can be said about our contracts. We've been fumbling every large contract for the past handful of years, our cap is in bad shape and every agent has us by the balls.



Cowboys have been really great at drafting... absolutely top 5 in the NFL. But we have been near the bottom when it comes to player acquisition & contract extensions. This is why we can't get over the hump.

Charean Williams said on TexAgs Live a couple weeks ago that she believes Jerry is cash poor, so he holds onto his cash until he absolutely HAS to put it into escrow for a new contract. It earns more cash for him as long as he has it, but as soon as he puts it into escrow for the contract, it wouldn't. She said she can't prove that, but it's what she believes. I tend to believe she is correct, given the way Jerry does contract negotiations.


That would be an incredibly silly thing for her to say as it conveys a fundamental misunderstanding regarding NFL contracts, the salary cap and how players get paid. That's just not how it works.

It also ignores that Dallas is first amongst sports franchises in the world in gross annual revenue and third in net revenue.

Never-the-less, she did, in fact, say it. Also, the fully guaranteed money for some contracts is required to be in an escrow account. See Cleveland's contract with DeShaun Watson for an example.

All I can say is stop listening to women talk about sports and definitely don't listen to women when they talk about money. When the two are mixed... Holy hell...
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In reply to Rex Racer • 4:50p, 8/21/25
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Rex Racer said:
Infection_Ag11 said:
Rex Racer said:
jr15aggie said:
cman1494 said:
I very much wish we would be more aggressive with trades like that...


We can't, because instead of having picks available to give out for quality players, we've instead (for the past few years) been wasting them on guys that can't play. Dallas is constantly looking at the hot/crazy chicks and thinking "I can fix her!".

Same can be said about our contracts. We've been fumbling every large contract for the past handful of years, our cap is in bad shape and every agent has us by the balls.



Cowboys have been really great at drafting... absolutely top 5 in the NFL. But we have been near the bottom when it comes to player acquisition & contract extensions. This is why we can't get over the hump.

Charean Williams said on TexAgs Live a couple weeks ago that she believes Jerry is cash poor, so he holds onto his cash until he absolutely HAS to put it into escrow for a new contract. It earns more cash for him as long as he has it, but as soon as he puts it into escrow for the contract, it wouldn't. She said she can't prove that, but it's what she believes. I tend to believe she is correct, given the way Jerry does contract negotiations.


That would be an incredibly silly thing for her to say as it conveys a fundamental misunderstanding regarding NFL contracts, the salary cap and how players get paid. That's just not how it works.

It also ignores that Dallas is first amongst sports franchises in the world in gross annual revenue and third in net revenue.

Never-the-less, she did, in fact, say it. Also, the fully guaranteed money for some contracts is required to be in an escrow account. See Cleveland's contract with DeShaun Watson for an example.


Sure, but the way your post reads makes it sound like she suggested the money to pay the up front costs of a contract and any money required to go into an escrow gets taken directly from Jerry Jones personal investment account that he wants to hang onto for as long as possible. Even if that were true, her argument wouldn't make sense. But that's not even how it works.
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In reply to Infection_Ag11 • 4:52p, 8/21/25
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Infection_Ag11 said:
Rex Racer said:
Infection_Ag11 said:
Rex Racer said:
jr15aggie said:
cman1494 said:
I very much wish we would be more aggressive with trades like that...


We can't, because instead of having picks available to give out for quality players, we've instead (for the past few years) been wasting them on guys that can't play. Dallas is constantly looking at the hot/crazy chicks and thinking "I can fix her!".

Same can be said about our contracts. We've been fumbling every large contract for the past handful of years, our cap is in bad shape and every agent has us by the balls.



Cowboys have been really great at drafting... absolutely top 5 in the NFL. But we have been near the bottom when it comes to player acquisition & contract extensions. This is why we can't get over the hump.

Charean Williams said on TexAgs Live a couple weeks ago that she believes Jerry is cash poor, so he holds onto his cash until he absolutely HAS to put it into escrow for a new contract. It earns more cash for him as long as he has it, but as soon as he puts it into escrow for the contract, it wouldn't. She said she can't prove that, but it's what she believes. I tend to believe she is correct, given the way Jerry does contract negotiations.


That would be an incredibly silly thing for her to say as it conveys a fundamental misunderstanding regarding NFL contracts, the salary cap and how players get paid. That's just not how it works.

It also ignores that Dallas is first amongst sports franchises in the world in gross annual revenue and third in net revenue.

Never-the-less, she did, in fact, say it. Also, the fully guaranteed money for some contracts is required to be in an escrow account. See Cleveland's contract with DeShaun Watson for an example.


Sure, but the way your post reads makes it sound like she suggested the money to pay the up front costs of a contract and any money required to go into an escrow gets taken directly from Jerry Jones personal investment account that he wants to hang onto for as long as possible. Even if that were true, her argument wouldn't make sense. But that's not even how it works.

I'm sure she knows that and was talking about the Cowboys being cash poor. But Jerry IS the Cowboys to most people. Not me. I was a fan before Jerry, and I'll be a fan when he's gone.

Anyway, she said it, not me. And she's not reading this thread.
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shack009 said:
Rex Racer said:
Infection_Ag11 said:
Rex Racer said:
jr15aggie said:
cman1494 said:
I very much wish we would be more aggressive with trades like that...


We can't, because instead of having picks available to give out for quality players, we've instead (for the past few years) been wasting them on guys that can't play. Dallas is constantly looking at the hot/crazy chicks and thinking "I can fix her!".

Same can be said about our contracts. We've been fumbling every large contract for the past handful of years, our cap is in bad shape and every agent has us by the balls.



Cowboys have been really great at drafting... absolutely top 5 in the NFL. But we have been near the bottom when it comes to player acquisition & contract extensions. This is why we can't get over the hump.

Charean Williams said on TexAgs Live a couple weeks ago that she believes Jerry is cash poor, so he holds onto his cash until he absolutely HAS to put it into escrow for a new contract. It earns more cash for him as long as he has it, but as soon as he puts it into escrow for the contract, it wouldn't. She said she can't prove that, but it's what she believes. I tend to believe she is correct, given the way Jerry does contract negotiations.


That would be an incredibly silly thing for her to say as it conveys a fundamental misunderstanding regarding NFL contracts, the salary cap and how players get paid. That's just not how it works.

It also ignores that Dallas is first amongst sports franchises in the world in gross annual revenue and third in net revenue.

Never-the-less, she did, in fact, say it. Also, the fully guaranteed money for some contracts is required to be in an escrow account. See Cleveland's contract with DeShaun Watson for an example.

All I can say is stop listening to women talk about sports and definitely don't listen to women when they talk about money. When the two are mixed... Holy hell...

Excellent point.
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And for the record, I think the explanation is far more simple. Jerry fancies himself a deal maker and guy who can get a "good friend" deal from players. He thinks that because he treats players like family/friends and because he's just so doggone likable players will give him a discount. And I think that combined with Stephen's tendency to want to control Jerry's worst financial impulses results in a front office that is very conservative and slow plays these things.

I guarantee you it drives Gus like mcclay insane behind closed doors.
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Infection_Ag11 said:
And for the record, I think the explanation is far more simple. Jerry fancies himself a deal maker and guy who can get a "good friend" deal from players. He thinks that because he treats players like family/friends and because he's just so doggone likable players will give him a discount. And I think that combined with Stephen's tendency to want to control Jerry's worst financial impulses results in a front office that is very conservative and slow plays these things.

I guarantee you it drives Gus like mcclay insane behind closed doors.

That makes a lot of sense.
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And honestly it has worked at times. Romo gave the Cowboys very favorable deals in terms of contract structure and the ability to manipulate his numbers year to year. Dez Bryant was barely a top 5 paid receiver with his second deal IIRC.
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