******* Official Cowboys Off-Season Thread 2025 *******

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jr15aggie said:


All that to say... no reason why the Cowboys can't be right back in it next year.


Yeah, no reason at all.




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What a rambling bunch of nonsense in that second tweet.
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98Ag99Grad said:

What a rambling bunch of nonsense in that second tweet.
"Rambling Bunch of Nonsense" should be the name of Jerry's life story......
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Some of y'all are missing the point and are quick to object to anything that sounds remotely positive right now.

I didn't say "no reason we can't be in it next year" to suggest all of the problems for the past 30 years are gone. Not at all... I'm simply suggesting that the Cowboys have all the right pieces in the key areas to compete again next year.

But I also agree that Jerry is terrible. He's the undisputed #1 owner of all time when it comes to brand building (for Dallas & the NFL as a whole... it's why he's in the HOF)... but he's absolutely terrible when it comes to team building.
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jr15aggie said:

Some of y'all are missing the point and are quick to object to anything that sounds remotely positive right now.

I didn't say "no reason we can't be in it next year" to suggest all of the problems for the past 30 years are gone. Not at all... I'm simply suggesting that the Cowboys have all the right pieces in the key areas to compete again next year.

But I also agree that Jerry is terrible. He's the undisputed #1 owner of all time when it comes to brand building (for Dallas & the NFL as a whole... it's why he's in the HOF)... but he's absolutely terrible when it comes to team building.
I have to disagree that the cowboys have all the right pieces in key areas to compete; they actually have glaring holes that were not addressed this year that will carry over to next year.
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Raiderjay
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" I'm simply suggesting that the Cowboys have all the right pieces in the key areas to compete again next year."


No, they don't have all the right pieces.....
Panama Red
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I understood your point, I just disagree with it.

There are a number of reasons to think the Cowboys won't "be back in it". At the top of those reasons are the owner president & general manager.

What Jerry did in the 90s and 00s literally revolutionized how the league and teams make money. As you said, there is a reason he is in the Hall of Fame. Its well deserved. But we are talking about the current state of the franchise. What has Jerry done the last decade to make him a great owner? Talk a big game about fighting for Zeke, then agree to pay the league's attorney's fees?
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jr15aggie said:

Some of y'all are missing the point and are quick to object to anything that sounds remotely positive right now.

I didn't say "no reason we can't be in it next year" to suggest all of the problems for the past 30 years are gone. Not at all... I'm simply suggesting that the Cowboys have all the right pieces in the key areas to compete again next year.

But I also agree that Jerry is terrible. He's the undisputed #1 owner of all time when it comes to brand building (for Dallas & the NFL as a whole... it's why he's in the HOF)... but he's absolutely terrible when it comes to team building.


Yeah nothing says we have all the pieces like getting murdered at home multiple times this season and running it back with largely the same squad.
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Jerry will drone on and on about wanting to be a winner, and his dreams of being champs, but he will refuse to do what's needed to make it ever happen so.............

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Everything I've read and heard about Schottenheimer today is the very definition of damning with faint praise.
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It's probably not that bad in the grand scheme of things, but because it's the cowboys the noise and hyperbole is turned up to 13. Is he going to ultimately fail here? History suggests yes, but there are and were worse hires out there. I bet we get more of the same 8-9 wins a year.

I also don't know why anyone would actually listen and belive Jerry anymore. He's clearly just talking to talk and makes absolutely no sense.
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The Cowboys really dug themselves a hole by not doing anything or very little last off season and replenishing the talent lost. Their thought process and contract negotiations was completely screwed.

So now they are trying (or are they?) to play catch up.
I wanna see our defense pissed off, not confused, maybe a little murder in their hearts Reload12, 11/4/11
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I don't think I've ever disliked anyone in sports as much as I dislike Stephen Jones.

Not even Buddy Ryan and I hated that dude with my every fiber. Stephen has passed him up.
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The press conference gave no indication that anything is going to change. Schottenheimer spent the whole time sitting there as the stupid Joneses took over the press conference as usual.
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Perhaps the most concerning thing from the press conference was how many times both Jerry and Stephen acknowledged they'd read various criticisms about them from fans…and then proceeded to basically say the fans were wrong and nothing is changing.

The longer this goes on, the more I think it's gonna end in 10 years or so with the next commissioner invoking the "for the good of the league" clause to force the Jones kids to sell the team.
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For that to happen, Jerry has to croak and Stephen has to get caught playing hide the doggie with some Hockaday girl.


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The Cowboys have some pieces in some places to possibly be above .500 next year
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If Shotzie's Great Cutz haircut is any indication, the cowboys are in big trouble…
"Real skill comes without effort" - Mu Bai
Vince Blake
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Holy ****…this fool air quoted "championship drought". It is a real thing dip****, no need for the air quotes.



Stephen does look like the sex trafficking bad guy in a Taken movie.

*Apologies, didn't see Panama Red had added this earlier. Still the lack of awareness is astounding.
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He parties hard, as does his dad. And it shows on their face and in their inability to be proactive. They are constantly hungover and it impacts their decision making.
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Vince Blake said:

Holy ****…this fool air quoted "championship drought". It is a real thing dip****, no need for the air quotes.



Stephen does look like the sex trafficking bad guy in a Taken movie.

*Apologies, didn't see Panama Red had added this earlier. Still the lack of awareness is astounding.

Dan Patrick's been mocking that "air quote" all morning. In fact, he's railing on Jerruh and Steve for making the news conference all about themselves instead of letting a first-time HC have his moment.

No news to anybody here, but the Joneses/Cowboys are a laughing stock to literally everyone in the sports world.
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FTAG 2000 said:

jr15aggie said:

Some of y'all are missing the point and are quick to object to anything that sounds remotely positive right now.

I didn't say "no reason we can't be in it next year" to suggest all of the problems for the past 30 years are gone. Not at all... I'm simply suggesting that the Cowboys have all the right pieces in the key areas to compete again next year.

But I also agree that Jerry is terrible. He's the undisputed #1 owner of all time when it comes to brand building (for Dallas & the NFL as a whole... it's why he's in the HOF)... but he's absolutely terrible when it comes to team building.


Yeah nothing says we have all the pieces like getting murdered at home multiple times this season and running it back with largely the same squad.
The squad wasn't the problem last year. The lack of any offensive imagination and the lagging behind of the defense when it came to Zimmer getting things rolling were the main problems. If Shotty brings the offense out of the 1980s like he says he will, the offense should be fine. The Roster is pretty damn good (outside of receiver and RB) if they can stay remotely healthy.
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Yes, offensively we should be pretty good next year... I'm projecting we get immediate help at WR (#1 pick) and RB in the draft. We should be a top 10, possibly higher, offense next year if Shotty is worth a darn calling plays.

Defensively is the big question mark! The Diggs and Overshown injuries are terrible luck (who knows how long Diggs is out and it's likely we get NOTHING from Overshown next year). We should have had all the big boxes checked on defense, but injuries might screw us.

Outside of injuries we have multiple guys with expiring contracts... off the top of my head, Tank, Osa, Golston, & Jordan Lewis. Outside of Tank, these aren't pro-bowl players, but very solid pro's that will easily find roster spots somewhere else if we don't pay them. I really don't know what our plan is to replace or pay these guys. Outside of Parsons, our front 7 could be a real mess.
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And I wanted to post this as well... I don't think it's already been discussed.

I've heard from a few places that there are a lot of people who feel like Schotty is a scape goat hire. The Cowboys are going to do very little to fix or add to the roster and are going to sit back and let the dead money (like when we restructured Tank & Martin) cycle through.

No doubt they are going to sign Parson... they aren't letting their super stars walk nor are they going to trade them. But they are going to let Schotty fail for the next 1-2 years and then bring in the next guy who will have some cap space to work with.
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Yellerjacket said:

FTAG 2000 said:

jr15aggie said:

Some of y'all are missing the point and are quick to object to anything that sounds remotely positive right now.

I didn't say "no reason we can't be in it next year" to suggest all of the problems for the past 30 years are gone. Not at all... I'm simply suggesting that the Cowboys have all the right pieces in the key areas to compete again next year.

But I also agree that Jerry is terrible. He's the undisputed #1 owner of all time when it comes to brand building (for Dallas & the NFL as a whole... it's why he's in the HOF)... but he's absolutely terrible when it comes to team building.


Yeah nothing says we have all the pieces like getting murdered at home multiple times this season and running it back with largely the same squad.
The squad wasn't the problem last year. The lack of any offensive imagination and the lagging behind of the defense when it came to Zimmer getting things rolling were the main problems. If Shotty brings the offense out of the 1980s like he says he will, the offense should be fine. The Roster is pretty damn good (outside of receiver and RB) if they can stay remotely healthy.


We have one WR and a mid RB. kind of important areas for an offense.
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This offense has been at the top of the nfl for the past 5 years when Dak is healthy. This past season may be what the future looks like but it could also revert back to 2023 offense. A large part of it is still there. With growth from guys like Beebe, Guyton and Ferguson/ Schoony, add a few high draft picks at skill positions, plus a 3rd place schedule and the offense could bounce back.
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Right now I see we have under contract:

Top flight: WR1, Edge1, CB1&2 (if healthy), K
Good: QB1, C, RT, LG, P
Solid: S group, TE

Everything else is either a free agent or replacement level. Hopefully LT improves with another year, but no promises. This team has a ton of holes and question marks
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ramblin_ag02 said:

Right now I see we have under contract:

Top flight: WR1, Edge1, CB1&2 (if healthy), K
Good: QB1, C, RT, LG, P
Solid: S group, TE

Everything else is either a free agent or replacement level. Hopefully LT improves with another year, but no promises. This team has a ton of holes and question marks

This is a good list. You could add LB to the Good / Top flight group if Overshown didn't get rolled up on. Who knows when he comes back and if he's even the same player. Makes me sick to my stomach... Pro-Bowl / potential All Pro talent.

I think I'd add Guyton to the Solid list... a bit of projecting perhaps, but we all know what bad LT's look like... I think he will be pretty good for us.


But a lot of the hardest boxes to check are checked. Gotta have (at least) a good QB and you gotta have star players at some key spots... we have stars at the most important non QB spots.... WR, CB, & Pass Rusher.
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This could be an OC hire that would be exciting, IMO.
Macarthur
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You know, after doing some diving into the draft, I think I would love to trade back and accumulate a couple more picks. This is a deep draft at RB and it's too heavy w OL and DL. Wondering if we shouldn't go trenches early and RB later.

Also, I think there's an interesting name in FA. Darius Slayton from the giants is a FA. He would be a guy that would be interesting paired w CD. He's had four seasons of 700+ yards w a terrible QB situation in NY.
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Eberflus is a good DC hire

Looks like Schottenheimer calling the plays, so OC not a huge deal to me.
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BMX Bandit said:

Eberflus is a good DC hire

Looks like Schottenheimer calling the plays, so OC not a huge deal to me.
sure he's calling the plays but he still needs an OC and Clayton Adams is one of these young kids that is getting lots of buzz for the run game which is what shorty wants to do. Run and play action similar to Detroit
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I know you need an OC.

The point is the choice is not nearly as important since he's not calling plays. don't know much of anything about clayton, but sounds like a sharp offensive mind. good to have around
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Macarthur said:

You know, after doing some diving into the draft, I think I would love to trade back and accumulate a couple more picks. This is a deep draft at RB and it's too heavy w OL and DL. Wondering if we shouldn't go trenches early and RB later.

Also, I think there's an interesting name in FA. Darius Slayton from the giants is a FA. He would be a guy that would be interesting paired w CD. He's had four seasons of 700+ yards w a terrible QB situation in NY.


I would love for them to address LOS early and often in the draft and then a good RB with speed! Get a WR in free agency.
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Maybe next year Guyton is a solid player for us, but this year he wasn't good. He lost his job at the end of the year until we weren't trying anymore. Maybe he was just a project rookie that needs time, but Beebe was way better this year at C. Beebe is already a good center after only one year
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