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riverrataggie said:

Good idea of what? Number of cases? Number of deaths? What are we telling?

What problem are we even trying to solve?


The goal posts have moved now that those in power have had a taste of what people will put up with. It is no longer about "bending the curve".
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752bro4 said:

Give me a f'n break




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He's really showing his ass more than ever. This is as bad and serious as a situation can possibly get? Playing games like this is incredibly irresponsible
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What is the level where the hospital are out of space? Plaid?
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culdeus said:

What is the level where the hospital are out of space? Plaid?
Stolen and tweeted at Judge Clay.
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It's worth it to read the fine print..few highlights of what's recommended in the the "low" (yellow) zone - which isn't the zone were in now (the very scary red zone)...isn't the zone after that ... but the NEXT zone:

..make sure to wear masks in *restaurants* besides when you're eating.

..shopping for "non essential items" should be "kept to a minimum"

...should "avoid all group settings related to pool activity" and "make sure lounge chairs and beach towels are spaced appropriately"

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AG just told Jenkins basically to **** off!

"In a letter sent to Dallas County Judge Clay Jenkins, AG Ken Paxton said local orders can't be stricter than statewide executive orders."
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...public health, epidemiology, and infectious disease leaders....

What are you expecting them to say? They're giving their educated opinions in the vacuum that is the Public Health Committee. A bunch of Dr.s and Epidemiologists on the Govt dime. It is a useful group for one reason at this point - It gives Clay the political cover he needs to hide behind when this bill comes due. Not a single **** to be given about the economy or the coming budget **** show...
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Balance. We have to have balance. Doing nothing wasn't reasonable. Neither is doing everything. We need leaders to work with experts of medicine, public health, economics, and business and strike a balance.
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'Educated'?

Who?
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Ol Jock 99 said:

We need leaders to work with experts of medicine, public health, economics, and business and strike a balance.

Yeah that ain't gonna happen. Dems want this to last until damage is irreparable (probably already there) and R's will look like enemy of the people when they demand the economy get back rolling when the media is acting like this is such a serious situation still.
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agcrock2005 said:

Ol Jock 99 said:

We need leaders to work with experts of medicine, public health, economics, and business and strike a balance.

Yeah that ain't gonna happen. Dems want this to last until damage is irreparable (probably already there) and R's will look like enemy of the people when they demand the economy get back rolling when the media is acting like this is such a serious situation still.
It's possible they could have genuine motives and be wrong and/or disagree with your POV. I strongly doubt there are many (if any) who want the economy damaged irreparably.
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If you continue to earn a paycheck and your neighbor loses his job, your "economy" isn't ruined.
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You're right...Nancy and Chuck (et al) are really hoping that things gets back rolling ASAP.
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double aught said:

agcrock2005 said:

Ol Jock 99 said:

We need leaders to work with experts of medicine, public health, economics, and business and strike a balance.

Yeah that ain't gonna happen. Dems want this to last until damage is irreparable (probably already there) and R's will look like enemy of the people when they demand the economy get back rolling when the media is acting like this is such a serious situation still.
It's possible they could have genuine motives and be wrong and/or disagree with your POV. I strongly doubt there are many (if any) who want the economy damaged irreparably.
If you are merely disagreeing with someone politically without assigning evil intent and malice then you aren't playing at today's high standard of internet discourse.
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DFWTLR said:

Hood said:

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TexasAggie008 said:

What he's doing is actually making more tests a bad thing - if he's just going to use "total cases" as evidence to shame any county resident that isn't cowering in fear in their house. A truly bad dude.


He's the worst, according to the Texas health and human services website 25% of dallas counties tests have been completed in the last 7 days. Also our confirmed hospital cases for North Texas has dropped to 569, not bad for nearly 8 million people.
The weekend numbers drop significantly. This will probably rebound to the mid-600s Monday. It's likely a reporting issue.

The Texas COVID dashboard now plots this info and it dips every weekend.
Down to 530 today, is the reporting still behind from Sunday?
Back to 678 today, so yeah, the weekends lag in reporting.
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Sadly, I think elections matter to politicians more than the health of the nation (this is an issue that reaches across the aisle). I wish the nation would come together to throw every last one of them out of Congress just to make a point.
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I Have Spoken said:

Sadly, I think elections matter to politicians more than the health of the nation (this is an issue that reaches across the aisle). I wish the nation would come together to throw every last one of them out of Congress just to make a point.
You have spoken
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https://www.dallasnews.com/news/public-health/2020/05/12/dallas-city-officials-want-4000-tests-a-day-more-focus-on-areas-with-high-cases-of-coronavirus/

.....testing = good, obviously .... but we'll circle back to this if/when doubling current testing, mainly in high risk areas, results in 300+ new cases a day. We'll see if Clay will honestly present the data or not

From article:

" About 1,800 to 1,900 tests are currently conducted daily within the city, but officials would like to more than double that number, he said."

"Dallas officials said Tuesday that they want 4,000 coronavirus tests a day performed in the city and won't wait on the federal government to offer more screening.

If approved, Assistant City Manager Jon Fortune said at a news conference Tuesday that the city would offer up to 60 tests a day in targeted ZIP codes that have shown the highest incidences of the coronavirus. The testing would focus on high-risk locations, such as senior care facilities, where residents may not be able to travel to get tested, Fortune said."
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What's the point? Are they virus hunting?

If people are not sick enough to go to the hospital or ask for a test, why do you even really care if they are positive?
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yukmonkey said:

What's the point? Are they virus hunting?

If people are not sick enough to go to the hospital or ask for a test, why do you even really care if they are positive?


We've been past the point for weeks. City is trying to fight an imaginary war. One in which the stakes are not all that high, but o boy does it result in lots of funding.

Follow the dollars.
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riverrataggie said:

We've been past the point for weeks. City is trying to fight an imaginary war. One in which the stakes are not all that high, but o boy does it result in lots of funding.

Follow the dollars.
That seems to be counterproductive though - the City of Dallas alone is looking at a $25M budget shortfall due to the drop in sales tax revenue. The federal government isn't going to completely make up that shortfall. Wouldn't that lead to a net reduction in services and "amenities" (parks and libraries are seeing some of the largest cuts, I believe)? And won't that lead to further frustration among voters, thus threatening the incumbents' likelihood of getting re-elected?

Still cannot figure out what the endgame is for officials wanting to keep things shut down (and I don't believe for a second that it's for public health).
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You don't want positive people in public, symptomatic or not.
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yukmonkey said:

What's the point? Are they virus hunting?

If people are not sick enough to go to the hospital or ask for a test, why do you even really care if they are positive?
Because you want the people with COVID to self-isolate if they find out that they have it so that they don't infect other people.
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Once they get the positive rate below 5% (quickly approaching), I'd hope to not hear that there is "not enough testing" anymore. But I'm sure we'll hear it until there is a vaccine.
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Ol Jock 99 said:

You don't want positive people in public, symptomatic or not.
Yes, because this is a very very scary virus that's killing everyone it touches.
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agcrock2005 said:

Ol Jock 99 said:

You don't want positive people in public, symptomatic or not.
Yes, because this is a very very scary virus that's killing everyone it touches.
Editing my response. Too flippant. But the gobt response has far surpassed anything reasonable. Get ready for contract tracing.
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Well, the adult conversation was fun while it lasted.
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Ol Jock 99 said:

Well, the adult conversation was fun while it lasted.
While I can see why you would say this, I also see why the adult conversation left a long time ago.
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Ol Jock 99 said:

You don't want positive people in public, symptomatic or not.
How else are communities going to achieve herd immunity?
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Stupey head
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Who wants a shiny new sticker on the door of your business?! Thanks Clay!

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The program would ask that a business take a pledge to follow certain guidance from public health officials on distancing and safe operations. They would also be asked to follow a color-coded guide the county released this week that deems which activities are safe based on the risk-level of community spread.

Those businesses that participate will be able to show off a Stay Safe Business insignia in their windows
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752bro4 said:

Who wants a shiny new sticker on the door of your business?! Thanks Clay!

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The program would ask that a business take a pledge to follow certain guidance from public health officials on distancing and safe operations. They would also be asked to follow a color-coded guide the county released this week that deems which activities are safe based on the risk-level of community spread.

Those businesses that participate will be able to show off a Stay Safe Business insignia in their windows


Nothing more destructive than a hard working idiot.
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Looks like a possible response to Mark Cuban's undercover shopper report.
Enrico Pallazzo
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Hopefully it's in the shape of a star
 
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