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So bars are restaurants now, restaurants don't have to count outdoor seating as seats, and gyms stay open. Sounds like nothing changes.
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Yep

Katy trail ice house for instance won't have to move one outdoor table one inch ... zero impact to outdoor occupancy
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culdeus said:

So bars are restaurants now, restaurants don't have to count outdoor seating as seats, and gyms stay open. Sounds like nothing changes.


Elective surgeries suspended, such a stupid decision to include that in this already idiotic order.
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culdeus said:

So bars are restaurants now, restaurants don't have to count outdoor seating as seats, and gyms stay open. Sounds like nothing changes.


Legally speaking, are there even any bars left in Texas?
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Of any of this the suspension of elective surgeries is the dumbest of all. My mom now can't get back surgery and has to live in pain?

What is considered elective?
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YouBet said:

Of any of this the suspension of elective surgeries is the dumbest of all. My mom now can't get back surgery and has to live in pain?

What is considered elective?


The definition for that got an edit also. It only restricts surgeries with a reasonable possibility of an ICU stay afterwards.
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I was at Baylor today and my doctor said he'd gotten an email from the president of BSW leaving it to a physician case-by-case judgment call, and as long as there was no ICU stay expected, that all surgeries would continue as planned.
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I think we should make a yell around F*** you Jenkins.

I don't maybe just yell at a bar or something. I mean a restaurant.
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When this is all behind us, a bar named "F Clay Jenkins" might be a huge hit
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I guess a venn diagram of people who'd have Clay Jenkins officiate their wedding and people who'd dress up and include their dog in their wedding is just a circle.
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Region down to 14.9% after a few days in a row of drops
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14.8% today

5 more days and back at 75%
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TexasAggie008 said:

14.8% today

5 more days and back at 75%


Just proof that lockdowns have zero control over infection rates unless of course you go full commie like China.

There are waves and it's like a drunk sorority girl constantly over correcting a fish tail.
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Thanks for updating
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None of the politicians will learn from that.
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I'm in Carmel CA right now. This state is insane with their restrictions. Everyone I've talked to is jealous of how Texas is more free and open. All restaurants were only allowing outdoor dining. Starting tomorrow all restaurants will shut down for three weeks. Only take out will be permitted. California is a ridiculous nanny state.
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I visited Carmel back in October. Signs everywhere saying masks are mandatory even outside. People there and in SF wore masks outside like it was their religion. Somehow the virus is still spreading.
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What are the latest numbers? Interested as we enter into the post-Thanksgiving phase to see the numbers and trends.
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oldag941 said:

What are the latest numbers? Interested as we enter into the post-Thanksgiving phase to see the numbers and trends.

https://covid-texas.csullender.com/
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Cases are high, hospitals are very full, but deaths are still curiously low.
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TexasAggie008 said:

14.8% today

5 more days and back at 75%
As far as I can tell nobody has any idea anything changed. Schools all stayed in person and every place I've seen seems ignoring this.
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culdeus said:

TexasAggie008 said:

14.8% today

5 more days and back at 75%
As far as I can tell nobody has any idea anything changed. Schools all stayed in person and every place I've seen seems ignoring this.

New hospital in Mansfield opened this week?
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If I had to guess, California is full of people who love to publicly state how superior they are for following covid protocols, but are privately not following them in any way whatsover.
For example, their governor and every celebrity in existence.
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DFW area is at all time highs for in patent census. ICU census is not at ATH levels. Deaths relative to where we were in July are about 50% behind. Nationwide about 1 in 12 critical admits are dying now compared to 1 in 8 in June so the death rate is not yet reflecting this here. Which is a good thing. Running about 1 in 16 right now (Dallas) though reporting this is hard.
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For reference, what is the typical "census" of both regular beds and ICU beds for DFW? Looking at your data link, it all starts in April. Just curious. Maybe Nov data from the last 5 years? Month to month comparison? I keep hearing that hospitals maintain a high census due to revenue models etc. But I'd like to see the numbers or better understand what is typical for a DFW Nov.
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Critical admits. 1:12, 1:8 etc. Is that critical admits for COVID or in general? All critical admits?
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Where is that 14.8% on your graph site? I saw someone post 14.8 and 14.9 etc. But as I walk back that graph, I'm not seeing those numbers. The dates they reference on Texags show higher than 15% in the graph. I may be misreading.
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oldag941 said:

For reference, what is the typical "census" of both regular beds and ICU beds for DFW? Looking at your data link, it all starts in April. Just curious. Maybe Nov data from the last 5 years? Month to month comparison? I keep hearing that hospitals maintain a high census due to revenue models etc. But I'd like to see the numbers or better understand what is typical for a DFW Nov.
No idea. I fail to see why this matters. I imagine there are Texas DHS reports out there for longer scrapes.
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oldag941 said:

Critical admits. 1:12, 1:8 etc. Is that critical admits for COVID or in general? All critical admits?
Covid only. And what is a critical admit varies. It also has some reporting problems in that if you die as a triage case then different hospitals ring that up differently. So it's not the best statistical method to use as long as the number isn't worsening. It can be used to say that in general critical care cases are surviving more, and by a decently wide margin to the June timeframe.
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oldag941 said:

Where is that 14.8% on your graph site? I saw someone post 14.8 and 14.9 etc. But as I walk back that graph, I'm not seeing those numbers. The dates they reference on Texags show higher than 15% in the graph. I may be misreading.
This guy is using staffed beds which is tracked slightly differently which probably accounts for the deviation.
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Thanks for the feedback. Though I'm not trying to convince anyone why it matters, I'm interesting in looking at numbers from a relative perspective. Local news and leaders have chosen this metric to hang their decisions "hat" on. So I want to understand how the current numbers compare to where we typically are. I hear anecdotally that hospitals typically have a high census. So are we higher than normal? I am betting we are. But I'd like to see the numbers. That's all.
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oldag941 said:

Thanks for the feedback. Though I'm not trying to convince anyone why it matters, I'm interesting in looking at numbers from a relative perspective. Local news and leaders have chosen this metric to hang their decisions "hat" on. So I want to understand how the current numbers compare to where we typically are. I hear anecdotally that hospitals typically have a high census. So are we higher than normal? I am betting we are. But I'd like to see the numbers. That's all.
TX DHS publishes some of this.

I mean as much as relative to a baseline might matter in a manufacturing environment, it's dangerous to make the same capacity projections on what is in effect a labor environment. I think we are quickly finding out we will run out of people to work the beds before we run out of beds to put people. To that end there's no real comparison to make in history that any of us have been a part of.
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Deaths are starting to creep up. Will be interesting to see if it's a trend or outlier.

We've been under 5 daily forever. 8 yesterday. 33 today.
 
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