aggie_2001_2005 that actually would be a good idea. Splitter was playing with the hot hand the last couple of series but against the Thunder its like he got scared. Ibaka has him scared to take it in or make a shot.
****Western Conference Finals - Spurs vs. Thunder****
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aggie_2001_2005 that actually would be a good idea. Splitter was playing with the hot hand the last couple of series but against the Thunder its like he got scared. Ibaka has him scared to take it in or make a shot.
Yeah, but Splitter is also being a poosay on the defensive end. That's why they need to put Diaw out there, because he can guard KD and Westbrook a little bit on the switch, which allows Duncan to patrol the paint and the guard / SF to stay out on Ibaka to take away his jumper.
Under that scenario, you would only put Splitter in at the 5 if Perkins / Adams / COllison is at the 5 and you were subbing Duncan out. In other words, never have Duncan or Splitter matching up with Ibaka.
[This message has been edited by aggie_2001_2005 (edited 5/27/2014 10:54p).]
[This message has been edited by aggie_2001_2005 (edited 5/27/2014 10:54p).]
Oh I completely agree. I was agreeing with you about starting Diaw over Splitter. Splitter was big in the Portland series but hasn't had a great series here against the Thunder.
Agreed
Diaw needs to start
Crap id play Baynes more, atleast he was active on the boards
Maybe bring in Bonner for a couple of 3s?
Diaw needs to start
Crap id play Baynes more, atleast he was active on the boards
Maybe bring in Bonner for a couple of 3s?
Tony and Danny have had rough games in these last 2 games. They need to focus and get it together.
Splitter can still be effective, but only if he's matched up against one of their lesser bigs, and only if the Spurs have a lot of shooting out on the floor.
Splitter has played like a huge vag this series. Put baynes in to break some backs
Put Westbrook on his a.ss
Man this is disappointing. It kind of has the feeling of the 05 Detroit series where the first four games were blowouts.
Oh, and the last part of my strategy, if KD and Westbrick get in rhythm, hack an Adams until they take his ass out.
Make Ibaka play on his fake-injured leg all game long.
Make Ibaka play on his fake-injured leg all game long.
12 out of 16. 12 out of 14 with Ibaka. Spurs fans are the only ones who can't see this. When OKC plays smart you can not beat them. Not trying to flame. It's a fact. Too young, fast, strong and simply better.
I don't think Adams is quite bad enough to hack him. However, if they keep calling tough fouls to give Westbrook fts anyway, it will be worth it.
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I don't think Adams is quite bad enough to hack him.
He is hitting 38% from the line in the playoffs. He was 58% on the season.
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When OKC plays smart you can not beat them. Not trying to flame. It's a fact. Too young, fast, strong and simply better.
Haha what is factual in what you just said? There's no doubt that the Thunder are clearly a better team when they have Ibaka as opposed to without him. But tap the brakes when you say they can't be beat. Oh and Westbrook and the word smart should never be used together.
OKC scores about 1.1 points per possession. If Adams is shooting below 60%, then OKC can be expected to score less than 1.1 points per possession, which is a net positive for the Spurs. If Adams is hitting 38%, then OKC is scoring .76 points per possession that the Spurs hack him on. That is quite a significant jump and worth doing if OKC is already in the Bonus.
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OKC scores about 1.1 points per possession. If Adams is shooting below 60%, then OKC can be expected to score less than 1.1 points per possession, which is a net positive for the Spurs. If Adams is hitting 38%, then OKC is scoring .76 points per possession that the Spurs hack him on. That is quite a significant jump and worth doing if OKC is already in the Bonus.
Was gonna post this. If the spurs are all out of rhythm and OKC is getting out in the break they should definitely start doing it.
Playing at home the spurs want to play faster and more fluid. Unless the pace is already screwed up and they give westbrook and durant fts every possession, it doesn't make sense to hack.
76 points per 100 possessions is quite a jump from 110. Especially when OKC gives up 104 points per 100 possessions.
Kendrick Perkins is a 55% shooter from the line this year, but is somehow hitting 80% of his FTs in the playoffs. He hasn't missed both FTs in a trip to the line this playoffs.
Kendrick Perkins is a 55% shooter from the line this year, but is somehow hitting 80% of his FTs in the playoffs. He hasn't missed both FTs in a trip to the line this playoffs.
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Playing at home the spurs want to play faster and more fluid. Unless the pace is already screwed up and they give westbrook and durant fts every possession, it doesn't make sense to hack.
The Thunder want to run way more than the Spurs. They are a fast break team, while the Spurs can break down a defense with their passing in the half court set. Makes a lot of sense to slow the game to a crawl and make them play. Just don't make stupid passes, Danny.
Favorite part of the game was probably Manu's reaction to Joseph's dunk.
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Doesn't matter if you hammer Westbrick anyway. He's still getting the calls, he's still getting to the line, and the Spurs will still have to overcome a 20+ FTA disparity until the closing minute or two of the game when they even the numbers.
Touch fouls take way less out of a player on the receiving end than hard ones. If they are gonna get called anyway, make em count.
http://www.gfycat.com/HarmfulFreeBull
Ibaka's poster courtesy of Corey Joseph.
Probably should have called that face contact.
Screencap of Manu's reaction:
"I didn't know he could dunk"
And tweet:
https://twitter.com/netw3rk/status/471488780042395648
Ibaka's poster courtesy of Corey Joseph.
Probably should have called that face contact.
Screencap of Manu's reaction:
"I didn't know he could dunk"
And tweet:
https://twitter.com/netw3rk/status/471488780042395648
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Corey Joseph's unborn grandchildren are already tired of hearing about his dunk on Ibaka
Glad the Thunders decided to try to win the series after all. The better team has actually won the last 2 games
Can not go down like this! Not to this team! Wake up Spurs! 
Agreed. Westbrook's 40/10 night was not smart.
Starting to get a tad uncomfortable about this series, I'll be honest. 2012 flashbacks.
Meh. Like 18 of those points came against the Spurs scrubs.
The spurs got thrashed last night and there was nothing anyone could do about it. There were times when the Thunder were actually moving the ball and passing, and when that happened, the game was over. It isnt something they can sustain for long though, or atleast they have never shown the ability to sustain something like that.
I said it last night after the first half, but I think this series is over. The spurs are playing scared and chaotic. We dont have players that attack the body of big men the way a westbrook and other players do. Tony just tries to sneak it under or around someone instead of diving into the bodies of defenders and drawing the foul (lets leave the "thats whats wrong with the NBA debate out"). If we cant penetrate, then we need Parker to start hitting 3s. Kawhi is a great prospect, but he just cant take over a game. He isnt a guy you can count on for 20 points a night, and when he does try to take over, its usually awkward.
The only way we get back in this is to attack Ibaka, and abuse Durant. You CANT let Ibaka play weakside help, you have to go at him. And you cant let Durant defend jumpshots, you have to attack him as well. And no, I dont really think Diaw is the answer there. It needs to be Kawhi and it needs to be physical points.
I said it last night after the first half, but I think this series is over. The spurs are playing scared and chaotic. We dont have players that attack the body of big men the way a westbrook and other players do. Tony just tries to sneak it under or around someone instead of diving into the bodies of defenders and drawing the foul (lets leave the "thats whats wrong with the NBA debate out"). If we cant penetrate, then we need Parker to start hitting 3s. Kawhi is a great prospect, but he just cant take over a game. He isnt a guy you can count on for 20 points a night, and when he does try to take over, its usually awkward.
The only way we get back in this is to attack Ibaka, and abuse Durant. You CANT let Ibaka play weakside help, you have to go at him. And you cant let Durant defend jumpshots, you have to attack him as well. And no, I dont really think Diaw is the answer there. It needs to be Kawhi and it needs to be physical points.
^ when we win, no one can beat us. When we lose, there's no way we will ever win a game.
The series isn't over. OKC adjusted. They were thrashed worse than SA just a week ago. Climb back off of the cliff. If we lose game 5 then I will call the series over. But we still have home court, and the Spurs didn't play as badly in OKC as OKC did in SA.
The series isn't over. OKC adjusted. They were thrashed worse than SA just a week ago. Climb back off of the cliff. If we lose game 5 then I will call the series over. But we still have home court, and the Spurs didn't play as badly in OKC as OKC did in SA.
Game 5 is it for the Spurs. Must win. Well see what they are made of.
I don't see the officials letting OKC be as physical as they have been on the road. When the refs let OKC body us up like that every possession all the way down the court our motion/finesse style of play is hard to run effectively.
I don't see the officials letting OKC be as physical as they have been on the road. When the refs let OKC body us up like that every possession all the way down the court our motion/finesse style of play is hard to run effectively.
I'm strangely optimistic about game 5.
^ I felt like that before yesterday about game 4.
Granted I do think homecourt is proving to be huge in this series and I think we win a close one in SA.
Granted I do think homecourt is proving to be huge in this series and I think we win a close one in SA.
Before the series; granted Ibaka would be playing I would have taken 2-2 right now any day of the week. OKC winning two games at home isn't surprising and shouldn't be a shock to anyone. I just don't understand that line of thinking. Conference Finals team are supposed to win at home. I didn't like the way the Spurs looked last night and that's a different point but a 2-2 series in the WCF isn't odd.
The Spurs always had tough series through their championship years. It's supposed to be hard.
The Spurs always had tough series through their championship years. It's supposed to be hard.
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